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sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 22 2012 18:02 GMT
#1274
If you guys actually read my filter you realize I can't be mafia. I was the first to suggested the role claiming thing that finally net us sentinel for sure. I've read all filters from the players and I think hiro has the highest chance of being scum.
I also believe that marv should tell us who is his townie so we can narrow down the sk. There are plenty of claims already so claiming the rest is not going to hurt us that much.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 22 2012 18:08 GMT
#1275
Ok i missed a page of posting. Stop claiming not vanilla just claim your fucking role. We got only 2 people to catch roles dont really matter anymore.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 22 2012 18:13 GMT
#1278
On May 21 2012 06:17 sandroba wrote:
I'm going to post this here since the OP doesn't look like it's getting updated soon. Known info and deaths:

deconduo mafia CPR Dead day 1 by dayvig mattchew
risk.nuke Claimed Vigilante shot paqman
marvellosity Claimed Mason -> partner is townie who tried for politician
[UoN]Sentinel mafia JOAT Dead lynched day 1
Mattchew Dayvig shot deconduo
zelblade Claimed VT tried for JOAT
Bluelightz Dead rolecop
talismania Dead shot night1 Witch
Misder Roleblocker
PaqMan mafia vanilla shot by risk n1 (or lynched day2 =P)
slOosh
Toadesstern Claimed VT tried for mason
Barundar
Zephirdd Claimed VT tried for politician
hiro protagonist Claimed that has a role can't be politicain
Palmar Claimed Pardoner
Snarfs VT tried for politician
Qatol Jailer -> Jailed risk n1 modconfirmed
sandroba VT tried for mason
Probulous VT modkilled day1


sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 23 2012 14:20 GMT
#1343
We could abuse this situation I think.
Tell me what you think of this plan:
We no lynch today.
Hiro protects Sloosh
Barundar protects Qatol
Misder does not role block into them
Qatol does not protect into them

Sloosh goes ahead and happily confirms more players (hiro first as he can be mafia, but not sk). If any of the four dies we get a confirmed anti town. There are 14 players alive, 2 anti town. If we mislynch the doctor we lose parity/jailer and we are probably looking at 9(1) 2 days from now, with most of the good roles dead. If we no lynch we might lose 2 people tonight if qatol doesn't pull of a save, but we confirm one more, or if the mafia/sk opts to out the other we lose one of sloosh/qatol/doctor, but never 2 of them. 2 days from now we will probably be 10(1). The only problem I see with this is if Hiro (or the last mafia) took GF at low position. Not sure how likely that is though.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 23 2012 14:26 GMT
#1344
The down side to this is that if we hit today obviously it's better. But there is yet another dumb play if barundar is SK as everyone including myself seems to believe. Why would he claim doctor if it means at best death 2 days from now? That's playing against your wincondition. If we opt to lynch someone today it probably makes more sense that we lynch hiro. I'm kinda torn though I thought barundar was the sk for sure. Maybe it's zephird/toad. Oh well.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 23 2012 14:46 GMT
#1347
Framer doesn't matter. It doesn't hinge on sloosh not being scum, because as long as he is alive he has to confirm other players anyway. It hinges only on GF.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 23 2012 21:04 GMT
#1376
K then we kill hiro.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 24 2012 03:13 GMT
#1392
Wow barundar way to play against your wincon and fuck town over while you are at it. Srsly why would you ever do this. I hope you shoot toad tonight as a payback for town, since you are getting lynched either way tomorrow.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 24 2012 16:54 GMT
#1407
@Qatol The way I see it is that by claiming doctor in that spot he made it impossible for him to ever win the game. I'm not saying he did it on purpose, but multiple issues of this happening this game is pissing me off.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 25 2012 04:17 GMT
#1426
deconduo mafia CPR Dead day 1 by dayvig mattchew
risk.nuke Claimed Vigilante shot paqman
marvellosity Claimed Mason -> partner is townie who tried for politician
[UoN]Sentinel mafia JOAT Dead lynched day 1
Mattchew Dayvig shot deconduo
zelblade Claimed VT tried for JOAT
Bluelightz Dead rolecop
talismania Dead shot night1 Witch
Misder Roleblocker
PaqMan mafia vanilla shot by risk n1 (or lynched day2 =P)
slOosh dead parity cop
Toadesstern Claimed VT tried for mason
Barundar most likely sk soon to be dead
Zephirdd Claimed VT tried for politician
hiro protagonist doctor
Palmar Claimed Pardoner
Snarfs VT tried for politician
Qatol Jailer -> Jailed risk n1 modconfirmed
sandroba VT tried for mason
Probulous VT modkilled day1

Okay so basically this is what we have right now. Out of the guys not in green misder is the most likely to be town in my opinion. Palmar can prove he is town and not GF by pardoning himself. That leaves Toad and Zeph. We will have most likely 10(1) at the next day.
Let's count the palmar lynch and if he is not scum he doesn't die so > 9(1). Considering only 3 people can really be mafia it's pretty much gg. Not considering risk shooting into those guys if somehow he forgot to send in his shot or something.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 25 2012 04:18 GMT
#1427
@risk and misder did you guys send your actions in?
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 25 2012 07:42 GMT
#1431
Only roles that can RB are jailer and Roleblocker is that correct? Misder must be mafia then, since Snarfs claim rb+save. Or risk is mafia and some insane shit went on this game. Either way pretty much game over I believe?
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 25 2012 07:51 GMT
#1432
Okay, I just reread the op and found out that traitor may roleblock. I previously though he had the same abilities as jack, so that makes more sense.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 25 2012 07:55 GMT
#1433
@Qatol Do you think it's possible zelblade outed the scum on top for no reason, by claiming that shit way early? Why would he do that as mafia?
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 25 2012 18:53 GMT
#1451
I'm about 100% sure toadestern is scum. Risk if you could be so kind and shoot him tonight so I don't have to read his nonsense anymore it would be much apreciated.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 25 2012 19:14 GMT
#1453
Oh yeah, I forgot being roleblocked uses up a shot (btw I don't think that makes sense, how can you spend your bullet if you are stuck at your house? =P). I don't think it's a risky move for zeph to RC politician>vanilla at that spot. He could easily be mafia (probably not traitor though), having really picked politician or having shot barundar and knowing that he is in fact sk. Now that I think about the night shots I feel it's a bit unlikely that palmar is scum. Palmar can only be scum if he took GF and claimed pardoner. But in that case mafia wouldn't shoot sloosh since he was useless at that point (I'm assuming mafia shot sloosh, because there were much juicier targets than snarfs for mafia to shoot like qatol). They probably would have shot qatol instead. So yeah I think zeph is mafia, toad is traitor.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 25 2012 19:19 GMT
#1454
@Qatol Okay, but zelblade started saying there was some shenanigans with janitor pick in the top pretty early. If it was mafia's plan to use that as confusion I would expect much better reaction from sentinel. He pretty much started the topic about the janitor stuff. And he couldn't have know there was something going on with the janitor pick had he not tried for JOAT and why would he ever pick that if sentinel took it above him? I mean we seen senseless things in this game, but zelblade pretty much started the process of his teammate getting lynched and his buddy reacted poorly is too retarded to assume.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 26 2012 13:57 GMT
#1464
Let me tell you why you are scum and your trap is retarded. Toad uses trap to see if sandroba is mafia based on mason role -> it fails, sandroba really went for mason -> toad concludes sandroba is still mafia anyway -> ??? -> more nonsense and ignoring everything else.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 26 2012 14:34 GMT
#1465
Now that I look at the draft positions I think it's unlikely misder is scum after all. paqman got Vanilla. Roles that he could have gone for are Vigilante/DayVigi/RoleBlocker. Given his drafting position the most likely role he went after is Role Blocker and such a high concentration of mafia on the top picks is highly unlikely.

And let me adress toad's bullshit sprouting one more time, you guys can ignore this shit if you want, but I feel like typing it:
+ Show Spoiler +
You thought denial of CPR was a smart thing and I was being dumb not wanting to "deny" CPR. Guess what? Mafia still got CPR and would have most likely killed a fair bit of townies before being uncovered because we have no way of knowing where the kp is coming from early on. Arbitrary vigi save our asses, but the way he did it could have been a townie killed just for being CPR and mattchew knowing where the role is so there goes a good role to waste. So putting CPR on the top spot turns out to be a not so good idea for value after all? Could be a point of discussion, but it's not proven for a fact that "denying CPR" when it doesn't even accomplish that is a good plan.
Now to the next thing. You thought I had an anti-town mindset by going for no lynch in that situation, while you wanted to lynch risk. I couldn't figure out at the time which one was mafia because no explanation made sense. Then I though more about it and came up with the marv explanation. I was the first one to ask for role claims to sort it out. Turns out I was wrong on marv, when he claimed mason, I ditched my case and went for the other only reasonable explanation I thought of at the time which was sentinel was traitor and voted him before I left home. Mean while you thought all 3 can be town when we have a PROVEN liar between them and no possible townie explanation to be lying. LOL. Who is the anti town here? Me that want to sort things out or you that rushes on to want to lynch #2 position of the draft with no thought whatsoever on the matter or trying to uncover things?
Then again I did the most pro-town suggestion yesterday and you still ignore it. I suggested no lynch yet again to preserve 2 out of 3 from jailer/parity/doctor. Guess what people didn't feel like wasting time so we ended up with dead doctor and dead parity and still have to lynch the sk today. Yet you ignore everything that is happening, pulls a number out of your ass "sandroba has 50-80% of fipping mafia". Good statistics bro, where the fuck does it come from? My conclusion is death to scum Toadestern.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 26 2012 22:41 GMT
#1469
Thanks for all the praise but in this game scum hunting was not really needed. Day1 we had a dayvigi shoot into mafia then a mistake that lead us to lynch one more scum. Then paqman got shot and we had to deal with hiro/barundar. Now mafia + traitor are pretty much between 4 candidates with 2 being way more likely (you+zeph). Not like I need half a brain or even post in here to get what needs to be done done.
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