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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
May 16 2012 14:34 GMT
#534
No town should pick cpr. We just shouldn't shout out exacly where it is. I don't think discussing scumreads today will affect the mafias picks. That's just not likely but we can hope it does.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
May 16 2012 14:36 GMT
#535
Ebwop: If you don't understand why it's beneficial to have a confused and panicking scumteam worrying about reads when they are picking their roles I hope those underlined words helped you figure it out.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
May 16 2012 14:46 GMT
#538
On May 16 2012 23:38 marvellosity wrote:
you may be confusing confused and panicking for better informed

How much better informed will they be after 8 hours of day 1 discussion. Not much.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
May 16 2012 14:55 GMT
#541
On May 16 2012 23:51 marvellosity wrote:
More to the point, why do you think they'd be confused and panicking?

Is this what typically happens after 8 hours of day 1 discussion?

I said it wont affect them at all if you bothered to read before you spurted out your bunch of nonsense.
You claim us discussing them will affect their rolepicks? I find that very unlikely since their picks will be determined by their positions in the draft and what they think they can get. They can't simply trade roles between eachother and give a player who's more heavily scrutinised a certain role. And if they start doing that they will have less time to think about their new roles to pick.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
May 16 2012 15:02 GMT
#544
Qatol that sort of discussion will benefit the mafia more then town.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
May 16 2012 15:05 GMT
#545
On May 17 2012 00:02 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2012 23:55 risk.nuke wrote:
I said it wont affect them at all if you bothered to read before you spurted out your bunch of nonsense.


Accusing me of not reading when you're the one who had an entire day to raise objections to the plan being raised and yet sat there twiddling your silly little thumbs.

Nice.

Why I did not read the thread last night is completely irrelevant to you not reading the posts of the person you are arguing with. Now don't spam post unless you put some thought behind it.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
May 16 2012 15:27 GMT
#549
On May 17 2012 00:08 Qatol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2012 00:02 risk.nuke wrote:
Qatol that sort of discussion will benefit the mafia more then town.

That's why I asked for comments. Can you explain why in depth?

I'm of the opinion that any information about what roles will be where will just benefit the mafia more then the town because townies don't need to know where other townie powerroles more likely are.

And by trying to work around that as you say (discuss picks you might self take) you're just setting traps for other townies to fall in or nullifying everything and to some extent inform the mafia how your minds think.

Best case scenario the posts are worthless and all they did was making the thread heavier to read.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
May 16 2012 16:03 GMT
#552
On May 17 2012 00:55 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2012 21:21 zelblade wrote:
I personally feel that we shouldnt be talking about scum reads, not at this point when roles are confirmed. Doing so may influence a heavily scrutinized scum player to pick up something like GF giving them a free kill if they get lynched.

Also rolecop is definately useful for town.

Hey Toad why are you explaining risk's actions for him? You just gave him the perfect excuse if he was scum and trying out a plan. Sure we might have a rolecop to confirm things, but theres always the chance mafia could pick it up.


Back home: Because it's no problem at all and we got a pefect solution for the risk thing. I would not have explained this if it was really troublesome.

Here's what we got:
If Risk is Mafia he picks janitor because it's good. If we see someone use that power, we lynch him = gg because we lynched a mafia
If Risk is Town he either sticks with the plan and will never use the janitor and therefor be one of the most powerful blue roles we've got = gg, that's what we want
If Risk is town and seriously considering Traitor we lynch him the moment we see a janitor = gg. We either completly denied the Janitor although Risk picked Traitor because if they use it risk is dead or we lynched a Traitor.
If Risk is town and picking something else that is not Traitor he's playing against his wincon.

That's why I explained it. I have no idea what's going on in his mind but it's not even an issue.
And the biggest problem for our plan is if #1 or #2 picks Traitor. However with Risks posting we have a DAMN GOOD reason for both of them not to pick traitor. Risk gets lynched if he picks traitor and #1 is scared as shit that Risk might really pick traitor. If #1 picks traitor and #2 picks traitor as well (as he claimed) we have a townie who knows of a townie that is Traitor.
#1 simply can't risk that and has to stick with the plan
#2 has to pick Janitor or he gets lynched

So while Risks post looks incredible bad (for reasons I already mentioned) I don't actually have a problem with that because that very post is forcing him and #1 to stick with the plan and therefore incredible pro-town although it might not be intended that way :p

Still catching up. Will post on the fly.

This is called selective reasoning. And my response to that is. Haha no.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
May 16 2012 16:18 GMT
#558
I'm Town.
I still don't understand your reasoning to why you think I would pick traitor. You're just wifoming your own head dizzy.
I'm not going to pick janitor.
I'm not just saying I'm not going to pick janitor, I'm really not goin to pick janitor what are you going to do about that toad?
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
May 16 2012 16:26 GMT
#561
This me thing is not at all interesting. If I were SK which toad belives there is a decent chance I am I would never had put myself this high on the draft because highdraft's are likelier to get killed.

If I were mafia I would never bitch like this because I'm bringing alot of attention on to myself.

Toad needs to understand that saying something is the logical conclusion does not make it the logical conclusion.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
May 16 2012 17:14 GMT
#562
People what do you think of Misder and Sloosh.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
May 16 2012 17:22 GMT
#564
On May 17 2012 02:20 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
So if #3 guy checks #1 and #2 by randoming CPR/Janitor and doesn't report anything, would it be a good idea to have him checked by one of the investigators?

Show nested quote +

If I were SK which toad belives there is a decent chance I am I would never had put myself this high on the draft because highdraft's are likelier to get killed.


But SK is invulnerable at night. All you would have to do is play town, generally blend in, and you could have a field day.

I actually hadn't red the SK role-pm. Had no idea he was bulletproof. That's a mess.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
May 16 2012 19:59 GMT
#575
It still doesn't make sense.

Oh and I warned you I'm not playing along your shit plan. Don't come whining later.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
May 16 2012 20:07 GMT
#577
You're not in charge of who dies toad. Get of your high horse.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
May 17 2012 02:03 GMT
#624
Lol this confirms Mattchew. Qatol you can't seriously believe anything else.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
May 17 2012 18:30 GMT
#682
I'm not the janitor. And if the town is a mess it's not my fault. Protip: stop complaining about it and take some action.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
May 17 2012 19:07 GMT
#698
Sentinel: is interesting. Would really like him to come in and try to explain himself.

Blue: I agree with you toad but lynching on meta day 1 haven't worked in the past.

Qatol: He's said several things that I really don't like and disagree with but he's one of the most active players so not the best lynch candidate for now.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
May 17 2012 19:07 GMT
#699
So you tried to take Janitor?

##Vote: [UoN]Sentinel
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
May 17 2012 19:10 GMT
#701
On May 18 2012 04:07 risk.nuke wrote:
So you tried to take Janitor?

##Vote: [UoN]Sentinel

Ebwop: ##Pause Vote. I thought he was right behind me in the draft.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
May 17 2012 19:13 GMT
#702
On May 18 2012 04:10 risk.nuke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2012 04:07 risk.nuke wrote:
So you tried to take Janitor?

##Vote: [UoN]Sentinel

Ebwop: ##Pause Vote. I thought he was right behind me in the draft.

##Unpause Vote

Okey Marv if you lied and said you weren't Janitor to try to absorb a bullet or some other reason you need to tell us.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
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