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Hyaach
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just posting to let people know i'm here and ready to jump the big gun! | ||
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btw people realize than lynching lurkers and inactive r different and at the start is not always benefitual to town. Every town lynch is a day wasted and a vote less in a majority vote game. | ||
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2.Mufaa 3.austinmcc 8.Crossfire99 12.Anacletus What are your thoughts so far on firmtofu? | ||
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Hyaach
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guess its 24 hour night/48 hour day cycle so we still got 1 full day ahead. ##Vote Anacletus | ||
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Hyaach
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IMO, i did whatever firmtofu wrote was just a innocent day 1 remark. There is nothing more suspicious about his post than yours actually. And say "if" he was mafia, what if the mafia decided to throw him under the bus? Not a good way to rule out anything. I'm also just voting you because there's nothing to discuss here /sarcasm | ||
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Hyaach
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you seem to know a awful lot about how the mafia plans to play their game don't you. | ||
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Firstly, i was against the vote on FirmTofu because suspicion over his 'imho' casual remark was pretty funny. To me, there was actually nothing suspicious over that post but it indeed generated some discussion. BKE was asking for convincing left and right. BioSC was sitting neutral the whole time. Dahdum was pretty aggressive from the get go. So while we waited for his response, i tried to generated some other chatter by pointing out lurkers/inactives who have not yet posted. The first response by austinmcc seemed not too shabby to me not because he agreed with my method, but he actually showed that he bothered to catch up with the thread and give his input. The second response was a direct vote without any reasoning. (its like my first post; ready to jump the gun) that was enough reason for me to vote and i believe people caught up with the train and are now starting to pressure Anacletus | ||
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On May 11 2012 08:04 Anacletus wrote: You give me way too much credit, Unforgiven_ve. I was only bandwagoning to see who wasn't voting and who was. My plan so far is more of a cluster-fuck spider-web of ideas written in a language that I don't know. ##Unvite ##Vote Unforgiven_ve I don't actually want to vote for you, I just don't want to leave my votes on someone with other votes so he can get swing voted. I had no intention of actually hanging someone today. You voted for unforgiven_ve but you said you don't want to vote on someone with other votes so he can get swing voted. unforgiven_ve already voted himself before you. You could have left the vote on FirmTofu since everyone has jumped on your wagon. Not wanting to hang anyone but placing on your vote on someone (FirmTofu)already with 2 votes on him. [quote]My logic wasn't to kill Tofu as I said, I was just trying to get a head count on who was voting and who wasn't. I seriously doubt anyone who was voting for him originally is mafia. So I was just keeping track for myself of various things. I also seriously doubt that I'll get hung day 1 which is why I'm not really making a big deal out of it. But on the off chance that I do get hung, you'll see that I'm town and you'll have to make some decisions on whether the mafia bandwagoned me, or if the mafia tried to look innocent by not voting.[quote] Headcounts can be done though reading and rereading of the thread. Why are you trying to set alignment for people who voted for FirmTofu? everyone is a scum until proven otherwise. Its the age old, I have no valuable information to share but I'll flip town when the time comes. Your argument all had been about, I will be town when i flip but i can not provide anything of note. BKE If you actually read my post. [quote] i actually had all the reasons to vote him. Firstly, i was against the vote on FirmTofu because suspicion over his 'imho' casual remark was pretty funny. To me, there was actually nothing suspicious over that post but it indeed generated some discussion. BKE was asking for convincing left and right. BioSC was sitting neutral the whole time. Dahdum was pretty aggressive from the get go. So while we waited for his response, i tried to generated some other chatter by pointing out lurkers/inactives who have not yet posted. The first response by austinmcc seemed not too shabby to me not because he agreed with my method, but he actually showed that he bothered to catch up with the thread and give his input. The second response was a direct vote without any reasoning. (its like my first post; ready to jump the gun) that was enough reason for me to vote and i believe people caught up with the train and are now starting to pressure Anacletus[quote] I was actually fishing for some response other that the train going on FirmTofu. When I ask you to post, you don't just vote without any form of reading. That will not help your case. | ||
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Hyaach
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Biisc is biosc and my read on him is before his recent post in the last 10 hours will give an update when im at home in around 7 hours | ||
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Hyaach
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My read on BioSC since start of game is his being very passive. Taking little jabs at everything possible but not really sticking it in. His throwing a huge net and offering very little in comparison. I do not know if he was asleep when the Anacletus wagon started but when he did replied, he only stated what others before had say. His only vote which is on Anacletus was casted after most of the players has started focusing on Anacletus and Anacletus kept repeating poor defense and a general bad play if he was townie. He could be a overly ambitious townie or just mafia that's spreading his alibi from the very start. But right now innocent until proven. BTW, regarding darkfirex5, i think you need to quote the two post about him diverting attention away from Anacletus and onto you because I do not see it. His two post, one was before Anacletus wagon started and one is after. Grasping at straws or just did not read clearly? As for Mufaa, until he post his futher post before this day ends. I have 0 read as his being even more vague than BioSC. | ||
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Hyaach
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On the BKE suspicions. I actually felt that it is a valid direction. If you filter his post, he does post often but its all fluff. There is never anything constructive to the town from him. You could argue that he pressuring everyone and asking of explanation is town play but it could also be mafia trying to fish out blue roles What say you BKE. On Anacletus While i hope it is your bad play. You could be the godfather and choose to appear innocent to all investigation. Anacletus, in your opinion who do you think is scum right now? | ||
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If he was just going to continue ignoring it and hope it past *SCUM* or something else but since that isnt going to happen now after austinmcc and shiaopi has made it clear that they want an answer. what do you have to say BKE? | ||
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Going to read what happened inbetween. | ||
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High on my suspect list : dahdum Anacletus Mufaa ShiaoPi and checks on Anacletus will be pointless as i've said his been claiming his town so far and could very well be mafia godfather. they appears innocent to checks. Self voted to appear as a last ditch effort to claim townie because the case on him was quite big. Kept insisting he wasn't sure voting BKE was a good choice. Then switch vote to BKE the moment people started pushing and BKE's case seemed lost. | ||
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If you aren't and have a good case, wait till tomorrow. Common sense really. | ||
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He was at least generating content. Ana wasn't. More content means a higher chance of slip up whereas Ana might as well don't post. His fluffs are even more vague than BKEs even after day 2. general directions, bad town play. i aint mafia. But hindsight is 50/50. Dahdum, I would like to know your thoughts on unforgiven_ and mufaa. | ||
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And activity only picked up in the last 12 hours. GMT+8 sleep time. My bad | ||
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In case anyone was wondering, I was suspicious of dahdum before this. Obviously I was wrong i guess. | ||
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On May 15 2012 03:00 Mufaa wrote: EBWOP: Meant to preview notpost,please disregard the darkfire portion above and use this one. Darkfirex5 My suspicions of him aren't as strong, but I still have a few things I'm curious about. + Show Spoiler + On May 10 2012 13:10 Darkfirex5 wrote: Well, might as well get started first game :3 I'm questioning why do you speak about town in third person as if you are speaking as if town isnt including yourself, so im asking why are you not using "we" and refering to town as a "they." Also you are justifying killing town just because they arent active, a vote helps even if they are a lurker, its another person who can still vote and help kill off all of the mafia. He's suspicious of BioSC, who says town/they instead of us/we. While this is something of note while building a case it isn't enough to build a case on its own. + Show Spoiler + On May 11 2012 06:43 Darkfirex5 wrote: sorry im a student so i have school, currently i think this is a weak bandwagon forming on Anacletus. While his defense is weak: Yet the first person to begin the voting on Anacletus was Hyaach, his reasoning seemed just as weak: The start of this "bandwagon" is begining to form off of this, though Anacletus did have a poor response which made him more suspicious the voting on him lacks solid reasoning. I bolded the part im talking about (didnt cut out any as to take something out of context^). Another thing now is that Tofu anounces the role of being a townie, and the reason (supposidly) why Anacletus targeted him was because he knew he was town (because he was mafia)? Now im questioning then why did he target you (tofu) only because you were town. Why initiate like that on a post that seemed insignifigant. I'm building suspicion on the reasoning for starting this bandwagon on Anacletus. Im still not placing a vote down yet but the starting reasonings for the votes lacks evidence and the follow up points (to me dont seem solid). Lastly: I was refering to why you said town gets a nice snipe instead of we are geting a nice snipe, i was only adding on some slight pressure on the begining, which was similar to other posts. The way you get very defensive and attack my one post only asking about your reference to town/mafia. FOS: BioSc From your posts folowing, i think less of you as being mafia, and more so townie, that doesnt mean i wont continue keeping an eye on you too. Now take this massive post Darkfire "contributed." The first 3/4 of it are on how this is a weak bandwagon case on Anac, with the last 1/4 on a wording dispute. This would be ok with me, except that he voted for Anac and never switched off of him. From there he posts mostly fluff until this gem. How do you know ShiaoPi was on to something? Austin and Anac both offered easy suggestions to why the mafia voted the way they did other than that they wanted to silence the person was closest to discovering them (Silencing vocal townies to stiffle discussion,attempting to frame the people on his list, etc...). Why should we believe this was just a careless post and not a slip? The others I'm less suspicious of but I do have some questions for them I want to ask: BioSC- All game you've been defending yourself from reads people put on you, but your defense is always "I'm not doing mafia things, your read is invalid" or something along those lines. I'd be a lot more likely to believe you if you had contributed to finding scum at all instead of just defending yourself. Who do you think is most likely to be scum and what do you have to back it up? Hyaach- I've noticed you voted for Anac without much of an explination and you tunneled him through day1. Since then you've said you're suspicious of people but instead of providing cases, you never follow up or ask other people for their opinions on the matter. Somewhat suspicious to me and I'll be watching this. Crossfire- I'm not sure what I think of him yet. His reason for not switching to BKE was pretty solid but since then his only case has been on me for not leading a lynch on a townie when there were 2hrs left in d1. Would like to see some more content. FirmTofu- You jumped on the BKE lynch after austinmcc's post where he says "I think Broodking's responses to the pressure are much more telling than the actual initial pressure itself. austinmcc is completely right that Broodking is the scummiest person alive now." Now his most recent post d2 is questioning austinmcc for the mislynch and implying Anac and austinmcc are buddying without any real proof. I don't believe this, but it makes me wonder if you're mafia and supported the BKE lynch because you knew he was town and saw an easy d2 lynch in austin/Anac because you knew that bringing up austin's case would put pressure on austin for the mislynch. Like I said, I have nothing concrete to back that up, but it does make me suspicious of you. austinmcc- Even though he led the mislynch on BKE, his reasonings were sound and his posts have all been solid so far. I'll be watching but you seem town to me. On May 15 2012 00:39 Mufaa wrote: @ Austin:I called him out on the safer comment too.He ignored me also.Still waiting for a response to that. going through the thread and filters now. I'll get a post up soon. i read through mufaa's filter. he was already listing Austinmcc as the least scummy people in his list from day one. With every other post to either push vote on people or directe FoS onto someone whose not Austinmcc/Unforgiven_ Hell, he even forgot him in his list. Has quite a few post that go along with austinmcc's flow of questioning Austinmcc has led two wrong mislynch. yes this may not be a good reason but its two townies dead. Says he has a town read on FirmTofu. I cant figure this part out. It maybe a trap eitherway. Mufaa was placing FirmTofu as the second least suspicious. Both him and Mufaa has stated times and again that Anac is a bad townie. But I can't seem to link them three together. And i'm actually inclined to believe now that Anac is really a bad townie.  My mafia team right now is Mufaa Austinmcc and Unforgiven_ | ||
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