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BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
May 10 2012 00:02 GMT
#81
On May 10 2012 08:56 Hyaach wrote:
this is exactly why i always hated day starts.

just posting to let people know i'm here and ready to jump the big gun!



Guys! He said he has a gun! He's OBVIOUSLY SCUM!

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I kid... or do I?
Bio - Breaking it down
dahdum
Profile Joined May 2010
United States46 Posts
May 10 2012 01:44 GMT
#82
On May 10 2012 08:36 FirmTofu wrote:
I'm all for lynching a lurker, but we should definitely wait a bit for everyone to have a chance to post.

Hey Tofu, yes we should wait, and I'm sure we'll get better clues than complete inactivity, but it has to be an option.

I hope you aren't mafia again

This sounds like something a mafia would say.
BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
May 10 2012 03:53 GMT
#83
/confirm

Lynching lurkers in the early game not a good idea. My reasoning is that people need to be able to post before we persecute them. Something to think about lurkers, Mafia will try to lurk, but their posts will have more intent behind each one. Why? Every post they make is going to push its own idea of an agenda, but the more they post the more the idea could be misinterpreted. Before we lynch a lurker let's look at the intent of the post: a Mafia agenda push or a helpful Townie post.
Playing Protoss = Opponent owned
Darkfirex5
Profile Joined May 2012
United States67 Posts
May 10 2012 04:10 GMT
#84
On May 10 2012 08:17 BioSC wrote:
If they are lurking scum players, town gets a nice snipe. Should they be town, they would be just as bad as scum in that they wouldn't help town anyways.



Well, might as well get started first game :3 I'm questioning why do you speak about town in third person as if you are speaking as if town isnt including yourself, so im asking why are you not using "we" and refering to town as a "they." Also you are justifying killing town just because they arent active, a vote helps even if they are a lurker, its another person who can still vote and help kill off all of the mafia.
BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
May 10 2012 04:18 GMT
#85
On May 10 2012 08:17 BioSC wrote:
Sounds like a solid strategy. Basic, but solid. Getting rid of lurkers/low content players seems like a win/win. If they are lurking scum players, town gets a nice snipe. Should they be town, they would be just as bad as scum in that they wouldn't help town anyways.

Seems like the first couple of hours will be spent waiting on the rest of the players to get here. Yay for idle chatter.


Not true, lynching an inactive is a waste. Scum wants us to not lynch them. We can call lurkers out, and they have to respond. They don't respond, we start looking at them. Lynching, because they are lurkers is stupid.
Playing Protoss = Opponent owned
Unforgiven_ve
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Venezuela1232 Posts
May 10 2012 04:34 GMT
#86
sup people, just reporting in.

Just for your information, im not a native english speaker, so if im not clear when i post let me know.
I do think lynching lurkers is a "good" strategy just not on day 1, i think we should wait so everyone can post and "talk" a little bit.

On May 10 2012 08:36 FirmTofu wrote:
Hi again dahdum! I hope you aren't mafia again ><


lol, this is "suspicious" to me
:)
BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
May 10 2012 04:48 GMT
#87
On May 10 2012 08:36 FirmTofu wrote:
Hi again dahdum! I hope you aren't mafia again ><

I'm all for lynching a lurker, but we should definitely wait a bit for everyone to have a chance to post.


What are you implying here? We should wait for everyone to post before coming to conclusions? That seems scummy to me, we should be analyzing peoples posts right now. You just created a reason for you not to post. Convince your not scum.

##Vote: Firm Tofu
Playing Protoss = Opponent owned
BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
May 10 2012 04:49 GMT
#88
EBWOP: Convince me you're not scum.
Playing Protoss = Opponent owned
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 10 2012 05:40 GMT
#89
Hi everybody, just read through everything, before heading out. I guess there is nothing wrong woth pressuring lurkers into posting, but we should make sure we do not just lynch a random lurker, who happened to post not enough. Going through the thread until now, this was quite an oddity:

On May 10 2012 08:56 Hyaach wrote:
this is exactly why i always hated day starts.

just posting to let people know i'm here and ready to jump the big gun!


This post strikes me as a somewhat suspicious one. The previous posts dealt with lynching lurkers and as a response you make a post, stating that you are not lurking, but nothing else. This seems weird to me as nobody pressured precisely you. They were just stating a general idea to get by and you just ignored the issue of lynching lurkers in your post. Maybe you just lacked time, it is just day1 anyway, but I'll be sure to keep an eye on you.
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Jailbreaker
Profile Joined October 2010
United States62 Posts
May 10 2012 06:01 GMT
#90
Hello everyone!

I agree to pressure the lurkers, but its only the first few hours of the game.
What are everyone's thoughts on the aggressiveness so far?
Note: BroodKingEXE, dahdum , Darkfirex5 , Unforgiven_ve, ShiaoPi already having "suspicions"
BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
May 10 2012 06:07 GMT
#91
On May 10 2012 13:18 BroodKingEXE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 08:17 BioSC wrote:
Sounds like a solid strategy. Basic, but solid. Getting rid of lurkers/low content players seems like a win/win. If they are lurking scum players, town gets a nice snipe. Should they be town, they would be just as bad as scum in that they wouldn't help town anyways.

Seems like the first couple of hours will be spent waiting on the rest of the players to get here. Yay for idle chatter.


Not true, lynching an inactive is a waste. Scum wants us to not lynch them. We can call lurkers out, and they have to respond. They don't respond, we start looking at them. Lynching, because they are lurkers is stupid.



... Which is exactly what I said. Lurkers/Low content players. NOT inactives. Though, I fail to see the difference in saying don't lynch inactives. If we call out lurkers and they don't respond, are they not by definition inactives? Either way, making lurkers either provide help to the town or getting rid of inactives helps out the town, as I said in my first post.
Bio - Breaking it down
dahdum
Profile Joined May 2010
United States46 Posts
May 10 2012 06:14 GMT
#92
On May 10 2012 15:01 Jailbreaker wrote:
Hello everyone!

I agree to pressure the lurkers, but its only the first few hours of the game.
What are everyone's thoughts on the aggressiveness so far?
Note: BroodKingEXE, dahdum , Darkfirex5 , Unforgiven_ve, ShiaoPi already having "suspicions"


Now I'm suspicious of you, what's the point of that post? A list of people who've posted so far and vague agreement with the general consensus.
dahdum
Profile Joined May 2010
United States46 Posts
May 10 2012 06:18 GMT
#93
On May 10 2012 13:48 BroodKingEXE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 08:36 FirmTofu wrote:
Hi again dahdum! I hope you aren't mafia again ><

I'm all for lynching a lurker, but we should definitely wait a bit for everyone to have a chance to post.


What are you implying here? We should wait for everyone to post before coming to conclusions? That seems scummy to me, we should be analyzing peoples posts right now. You just created a reason for you not to post. Convince your not scum.



I'm on this wagon, for BKE's reason and the "I hope you aren't mafia" statement. Let's hear more from you Firm.

##Vote FirmTofu
Jailbreaker
Profile Joined October 2010
United States62 Posts
May 10 2012 07:06 GMT
#94
On May 10 2012 15:14 dahdum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 15:01 Jailbreaker wrote:
Hello everyone!

I agree to pressure the lurkers, but its only the first few hours of the game.
What are everyone's thoughts on the aggressiveness so far?
Note: BroodKingEXE, dahdum , Darkfirex5 , Unforgiven_ve, ShiaoPi already having "suspicions"


Now I'm suspicious of you, what's the point of that post? A list of people who've posted so far and vague agreement with the general consensus.


No, no, no, no! You misunderstand! I believe that some players have confused being "active" with "aggressive."
Give players time to post their defense, the game just started after five days of signups. How would it feel to wake up to some shit storm with your name on it?

I'm going to withhold my vote until later when everyone has a chance to post
BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
May 10 2012 07:12 GMT
#95
On May 10 2012 15:18 dahdum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 13:48 BroodKingEXE wrote:
On May 10 2012 08:36 FirmTofu wrote:
Hi again dahdum! I hope you aren't mafia again ><

I'm all for lynching a lurker, but we should definitely wait a bit for everyone to have a chance to post.


What are you implying here? We should wait for everyone to post before coming to conclusions? That seems scummy to me, we should be analyzing peoples posts right now. You just created a reason for you not to post. Convince your not scum.



I'm on this wagon, for BKE's reason and the "I hope you aren't mafia" statement. Let's hear more from you Firm.

##Vote FirmTofu



While I agree that the back half of his post is worthy of discussion, I would hope that simply saying that him hoping you aren't mafia is worthy of a lynch. Maybe it's just me, but that simply sounds as if he remembers you from a previous game, and perhaps you did well as mafia then. I feel like the mafia/town alignment of a previous game shouldn't be a factor in deciding whom to lynch in THIS game.

Posting style, however, can and most likely should be used. A lot of people are shooting off votes 4ish hours into the day, and while it's majority vote at the end of the day, I think there are better ways of getting people to speak up without throwing around votes on a whim. Let's see what Firm has to say.
Bio - Breaking it down
dahdum
Profile Joined May 2010
United States46 Posts
May 10 2012 07:40 GMT
#96
On May 10 2012 16:12 BioSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 15:18 dahdum wrote:
On May 10 2012 13:48 BroodKingEXE wrote:
On May 10 2012 08:36 FirmTofu wrote:
Hi again dahdum! I hope you aren't mafia again ><

I'm all for lynching a lurker, but we should definitely wait a bit for everyone to have a chance to post.


What are you implying here? We should wait for everyone to post before coming to conclusions? That seems scummy to me, we should be analyzing peoples posts right now. You just created a reason for you not to post. Convince your not scum.



I'm on this wagon, for BKE's reason and the "I hope you aren't mafia" statement. Let's hear more from you Firm.

##Vote FirmTofu



While I agree that the back half of his post is worthy of discussion, I would hope that simply saying that him hoping you aren't mafia is worthy of a lynch. Maybe it's just me, but that simply sounds as if he remembers you from a previous game, and perhaps you did well as mafia then. I feel like the mafia/town alignment of a previous game shouldn't be a factor in deciding whom to lynch in THIS game.

Posting style, however, can and most likely should be used. A lot of people are shooting off votes 4ish hours into the day, and while it's majority vote at the end of the day, I think there are better ways of getting people to speak up without throwing around votes on a whim. Let's see what Firm has to say.


Actually, throwing around votes is an excellent way of getting people to speak up. You're defending him right now, he'll respond, and we can interpret later if/when he flips what that says about you.

We were in the last game together so I also have a better sense of his style than I do of the rest of you.

Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
May 10 2012 07:42 GMT
#97
I would like to point out day starts always ends up in lurker hunting. its mostly the norm. And one wrong read most of the time lead to a badly made vote at the end of day. and this is a 24 hour game which rush active conversation even more.
btw people realize than lynching lurkers and inactive r different and at the start is not always benefitual to town.
Every town lynch is a day wasted and a vote less in a majority vote game.
Thailand is my new obsession
BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
May 10 2012 07:53 GMT
#98
On May 10 2012 16:40 dahdum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 16:12 BioSC wrote:
On May 10 2012 15:18 dahdum wrote:
On May 10 2012 13:48 BroodKingEXE wrote:
On May 10 2012 08:36 FirmTofu wrote:
Hi again dahdum! I hope you aren't mafia again ><

I'm all for lynching a lurker, but we should definitely wait a bit for everyone to have a chance to post.


What are you implying here? We should wait for everyone to post before coming to conclusions? That seems scummy to me, we should be analyzing peoples posts right now. You just created a reason for you not to post. Convince your not scum.



I'm on this wagon, for BKE's reason and the "I hope you aren't mafia" statement. Let's hear more from you Firm.

##Vote FirmTofu



While I agree that the back half of his post is worthy of discussion, I would hope that simply saying that him hoping you aren't mafia is worthy of a lynch. Maybe it's just me, but that simply sounds as if he remembers you from a previous game, and perhaps you did well as mafia then. I feel like the mafia/town alignment of a previous game shouldn't be a factor in deciding whom to lynch in THIS game.

Posting style, however, can and most likely should be used. A lot of people are shooting off votes 4ish hours into the day, and while it's majority vote at the end of the day, I think there are better ways of getting people to speak up without throwing around votes on a whim. Let's see what Firm has to say.


Actually, throwing around votes is an excellent way of getting people to speak up. You're defending him right now, he'll respond, and we can interpret later if/when he flips what that says about you.

We were in the last game together so I also have a better sense of his style than I do of the rest of you.



Read what I posted again. I threw my suspicions towards him as well. Not sure what about my post was defending him.

Fair enough point about his style. Though I did mention that as well. Again, I want to hear from him before immediately calling Lynch. I haven't cast my vote yet either.
Bio - Breaking it down
BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
May 10 2012 07:57 GMT
#99
Also, I'm heading off to bed, I'll check on the thread once I wake up. Hopefully Firm and the others whom have yet to come forward do. Good Night.
Bio - Breaking it down
Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
May 10 2012 10:54 GMT
#100
maybe it is because of time difference. but i strongly urge the remaining players to participate. 12 hours is gone already and we still have people not yet joining the debate not that we have any.


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