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I know it took my a while to check in, had a date last night and then went to sleep.
So far my thoughts on FirmTofu are nonexistant. He posted once, 40 minutes into a game. It's a 48 hour day/24 hour night cycle, so I see no reason to be chomping at the bit to lynch him. I'm in agreement with him that we should give everyone a chance to post. Game just now started, and depending on your timezone most of the time it's been running was overnight.
Instead, I'm much more in favor of what you just did actually. Point out specific names--who isn't posting, hasn't been contributing--and start looking for responses. Anyone entirely inactive is going to get modkilled, so let's force activity out of those we can, get discussion rolling, and build up a bigger body of posts to analyze.
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I am only voting because I don't have much to add. I would also like to point out that *if* we hang tofu for his suspicious behavior and he is mafia then we can rule out those voting as being mafia, no?
But if he's town, shit.
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oh i kept reading it as 24 hour day.
guess its 24 hour night/48 hour day cycle so we still got 1 full day ahead.
##Vote Anacletus
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On May 10 2012 23:28 Hyaach wrote:
oh i kept reading it as 24 hour day.
guess its 24 hour night/48 hour day cycle so we still got 1 full day ahead.
##Vote Anacletus
What's your reasoning behind voting for me?
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IMO, i did whatever firmtofu wrote was just a innocent day 1 remark. There is nothing more suspicious about his post than yours actually.
And say "if" he was mafia, what if the mafia decided to throw him under the bus? Not a good way to rule out anything.
I'm also just voting you because there's nothing to discuss here /sarcasm
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On May 10 2012 23:33 Hyaach wrote:
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IMO, i did whatever firmtofu wrote was just a innocent day 1 remark. There is nothing more suspicious about his post than yours actually.
And say "if" he was mafia, what if the mafia decided to throw him under the bus? Not a good way to rule out anything.
I'm also just voting you because there's nothing to discuss here /sarcasm
It was for a misspell.
I don't understand what your line about FirmTofu is saying, it makes no sense.
I doubt that the mafia would try to be hyper-aggressive day 1. I think that the people who aren't voting are suspicious. I think it makes more sense for the mafia to try and be passive in voting yet vocal in chat to try and rule who otherw vote for and keep their hands clean.
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i meant i think whatever firmtofu wrote was just a casual remark.
you seem to know a awful lot about how the mafia plans to play their game don't you.
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On May 10 2012 23:41 Anacletus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2012 23:33 Hyaach wrote:
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IMO, i did whatever firmtofu wrote was just a innocent day 1 remark. There is nothing more suspicious about his post than yours actually.
And say "if" he was mafia, what if the mafia decided to throw him under the bus? Not a good way to rule out anything.
I'm also just voting you because there's nothing to discuss here /sarcasm It was for a misspell. I don't understand what your line about FirmTofu is saying, it makes no sense. I doubt that the mafia would try to be hyper-aggressive day 1. I think that the people who aren't voting are suspicious. I think it makes more sense for the mafia to try and be passive in voting yet vocal in chat to try and rule who otherw vote for and keep their hands clean.
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On May 10 2012 23:26 Anacletus wrote:
I am only voting because I don't have much to add. I would also like to point out that *if* we hang tofu for his suspicious behavior and he is mafia then we can rule out those voting as being mafia, no?
But if he's town, shit.
This is an awful reason to vote for a lynch. We've got almost 36 hours of day 1 left, and while we should be drumming up discussion, this doesn't help.
You say you have nothing to add. Why vote based on that? You don't give any reason for your vote at all, and if you have nothing to add then why vote Tofu over anyone else. A vote like that is absolutely unhelpful to town. You mention his "suspicious behavior," but what behavior was that? How was his post overly suspicious to you? You haven't posted anything of note yet either, why vote Tofu for no reason and then be surprised/demand a reason for someone voting you?
Moreover, no, we can't confirm town/mafia based on votes that easy. If we have multiple lynch candidates, then sure, maybe the majority of the mafia vote for a townie. But so far, we just have some random votes on Tofu for no real reason. Mafia can just hide votes in there, even if he were scum, and you learn nothing from the votes. If we want any info from voting, we need more candidates.
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1.- Jailbreaker, as you see in my post i wrote "lol" ahead of it, meaning im not serious about it, its just when a kid screams "IM NOT HIDING IN HERE"...i stand my point about waiting EVERYONE to post something, Hyaach has a point, if MOD sees those persons are active and they are not posting here, theres something going on, but still, lurking would be our only clue and i think thats not enough in day 1, but In the last minute i would vote for a lurker if mod desnt replace them tho.
2.- Anacletus, remember mafia can always kill some of their members to appear innocent, but yeah, maybe not on day 1. Also, i dont like your first post being a direct vote 
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On May 10 2012 23:41 Anacletus wrote:
I think it makes more sense for the mafia to try and be passive in voting yet vocal in chat to try and rule who otherw vote for and keep their hands clean.
I can agree with this to a point, but they're going to have to vote at some point. I'm more suspicious of someone who votes just to vote, but without a decent reason, than I am of someone who hasn't voted. Not voting is the sensible play if you don't have a reason to vote someone yet. Voting just to vote doesn't help town at all, and sheeping someone else's vote, especially when there's not really much reasoning behind that vote, certainly doesn't help town.
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Anacletus your reasoning seems pretty "bad". You do not give anything new to the discussion, instead your very first post was a vote on FirmTofu without any remark how you came to that decision. Even saying that you don't have anything to add.
also the bolded part of your quote:
On May 10 2012 23:26 Anacletus wrote:
I am only voting because I don't have much to add. I would also like to point out that *if* we hang tofu for his suspicious behavior and he is mafia then we can rule out those voting as being mafia, no?
But if he's town, shit.
seems to me like either a really bad conclusion as a townie or as a scum seeking a way to gain town credibility by jumping on the next best bandwagon...
Care to elaborate on your decision? Otherwise you'll have my vote as of now your play is ridiculously fishy and scummy.
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A reminder Anacletus, no editing for any reason. If you want to request an edit to fix a dropped quote tag or something you can PM me and I might allow it.
I highly recommend liberal use of the preview function instead.
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On another note I think Tofu's post was much more of careless Smalltalk than really a suspicious post, therefore he (at least for now) should not be lynched in my opinion. As it stands now I really want to get a reasonable explanation out of Anacletus as he seems to be the scummiest guy right now.
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On May 10 2012 23:49 Hyaach wrote:
i meant i think whatever firmtofu wrote was just a casual remark.
you seem to know a awful lot about how the mafia plans to play their game don't you.
I've played mafia before. That being said nothing that I say is guaranteed so playing one playstyle will probably let them metagame us. I was only throwing out my 2 cents. Also, maybe I'm metagaming knowing mafia will read this.
The hole goes deeper.
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I don't understand why everyone is not liking Firmtofu's first post + Show Spoiler +On May 10 2012 08:36 FirmTofu wrote:
Hi again dahdum! I hope you aren't mafia again ><
I'm all for lynching a lurker, but we should definitely wait a bit for everyone to have a chance to post.
As for his lynching lurkers stance, he was like one of the first posts, so no one really posted and it seems he was stating that we should wait to judge people until they posted. If people still lurked after a while then he seems to support lynching the lurkers. This isn't a terrible stance if I am interpreting him correctly, so I want clarification from him on this, though.
As for me, I am only in favor of lynching lurkers as an absolute last resort. I feel we need to do our best scumhunting and if we do a good job, we can lynch a scum.
Right now I am suspicious of Anacletus. He comes in and votes for Firmtofu as his first post with no explanation, but then gives this terrible reason for voting in his next post + Show Spoiler +On May 10 2012 23:26 Anacletus wrote:
I am only voting because I don't have much to add. I would also like to point out that *if* we hang tofu for his suspicious behavior and he is mafia then we can rule out those voting as being mafia, no?
But if he's town, shit. On May 10 2012 23:41 Anacletus wrote:It was for a misspell. I don't understand what your line about FirmTofu is saying, it makes no sense. I doubt that the mafia would try to be hyper-aggressive day 1. I think that the people who aren't voting are suspicious. I think it makes more sense for the mafia to try and be passive in voting yet vocal in chat to try and rule who otherw vote for and keep their hands clean.
What say you Anacletus?
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Also this beauty just came from Anacletus + Show Spoiler + On May 11 2012 00:09 Anacletus wrote:I've played mafia before. That being said nothing that I say is guaranteed so playing one playstyle will probably let them metagame us. I was only throwing out my 2 cents. Also, maybe I'm metagaming knowing mafia will read this. The hole goes deeper.
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Anacletus, why, specifically, did you vote Tofu?
All you've said is:
suspicious behavior
In your original vote. But you didn't tell us what you found suspicious.
On May 10 2012 23:41 Anacletus wrote:
I doubt that the mafia would try to be hyper-aggressive day 1. I think that the people who aren't voting are suspicious. I think it makes more sense for the mafia to try and be passive in voting yet vocal in chat to try and rule who otherw vote for and keep their hands clean.
Say you think this, why vote Tofu? He posted once, 40 minutes into the game, and hasn't been active. That's not vocal in chat. His activity so far this game doesn't fit the pattern that you believe to be scummy.
Town's job isn't to care about what gameplan mafia may or may not have. Our job is to hunt scum. To me, your vote on Tofu, especially as it runs against your own reasoning, looks scummy or newbie townish. Yet you say you've played games elsewhere before.
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On May 10 2012 16:06 Jailbreaker wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2012 15:14 dahdum wrote:On May 10 2012 15:01 Jailbreaker wrote:
Hello everyone!
I agree to pressure the lurkers, but its only the first few hours of the game.
What are everyone's thoughts on the aggressiveness so far?
Note: BroodKingEXE, dahdum , Darkfirex5 , Unforgiven_ve, ShiaoPi already having "suspicions" Now I'm suspicious of you, what's the point of that post? A list of people who've posted so far and vague agreement with the general consensus. No, no, no, no! You misunderstand! I believe that some players have confused being "active" with "aggressive." Give players time to post their defense, the game just started after five days of signups. How would it feel to wake up to some shit storm with your name on it? I'm going to withhold my vote until later when everyone has a chance to post
You can withhold your vote but you still need to scum hunt.
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