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man sheth that move makes 0 sense from a town perspective.
You call the guy 50/50 town and then put all your votes on him when you know it takes 9 votes to save someone. Cephiro is definitely not the towniest person in the game and I would rank him right now in the top 3 in terms of disruptive and antitown players. Obviously being loud and obnoxious isn't necessarily a scumtell (as VE's flip proved) but I'm far more convinced Cephiro is scum than town at this point.
Why would you ever in that situation give your five votes to someone you don't even have a town read on? Why not give those votes to Foolishness, or me, or honestly anyone else in the majority pool? You can't seriously argue that everyone else in that majority pool is worse than 50/50 for you.
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On May 04 2012 13:41 gonzaw wrote:
Let's hope he's joking.
Nobody else give any more votes to Cephiro for now
If you are town and have a town read on him, then make a post saying why, posting your reasoning, and then we can figure out if you can give him votes or not; don't go all anti-town on our asses and play for yourself thinking "my reads are always right" or some shit and do the same thing VE did to us last day.
You guys are retards. You're in no position to tell others that, don't you get it? Also, I am town, and that's not going to change. Just because you're all up in your retarded metareads won't change that.
On May 04 2012 14:11 wherebugsgo wrote:
man sheth that move makes 0 sense from a town perspective.
You call the guy 50/50 town and then put all your votes on him when you know it takes 9 votes to save someone. Cephiro is definitely not the towniest person in the game and I would rank him right now in the top 3 in terms of disruptive and antitown players. Obviously being loud and obnoxious isn't necessarily a scumtell (as VE's flip proved) but I'm far more convinced Cephiro is scum than town at this point.
Why would you ever in that situation give your five votes to someone you don't even have a town read on? Why not give those votes to Foolishness, or me, or honestly anyone else in the majority pool? You can't seriously argue that everyone else in that majority pool is worse than 50/50 for you.
Sheth knows I am town. So if I'm top 3 of disruptive and antitown players, please tell me what good Palmar has done for town? Jack shit he hasn't.
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Ahh excellent. Nobody will be giving any votes to prplhz. I will probably give some votes to EchelonTee.
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Please no one vote yet.
We need to establish a proper system so that scum cannot simply choose to save themselves if they are up to die.
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Sheth is mafia, I can guarantee this. Anyway, we are killing BC and/or Cephiro today. Do not vote yet if you are town, as WBG says.
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Tomorrow is last day of school. Craziness is ensuing (it's a shitshow if yout know what I mean), so it might be tough to keep my responses coherant.
People I most support lynching: BC, prplhz, Cephiro in that order.
BC - earlier claimed to analyze prplhz/Katina; in reality had never explained his positions. position on Katina in particular is completely baseless and reeks of fakeness because of being forced to make a read. Has only shat on other people's plans. Says Round A is time for people to be accountable; he doesn't make himself accountable for his "no" vote to keep him from being scrutinized. overall tone unhelpful, derrogative. should die.
prplhz - skirted by on "sorry i play so bad I was busy"; fact remains that he has been present throughout the game (has many posts) but extremely little content, scumhunting, or pro-town behavior at all. that's called active lurking
Cephiro - I'm not as sold on his alignment compared to the other two (because of the manner in which he defends himself), but he hasn't done much things to make him look town. says that the case on him is all meta, but based solely on his thread he's been disruptive (interactions with gonzaw, Palmar) while simultaneously doing jack himself.
Person who I would want lynched right now but can't: sheth
I have reasoning, no need to muddle the thread atm, but keep eyes on him please.
@chaoser: my opinion of sandroba - voting trends suggest he's town, and in thread he hasn't been significantly more lurky than others, while also hasn't been disruptive. while prplhz has had plenty of time to catch up by now, it's clear sandroba has only had time to be here or there and honestly should've replaced out like Radfield did. will be obvious as hell if he's scum as time goes on, so not at the top of my concern list.
I'm going to hold off on my votes until it's clear how we will get done what we want to get done.
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On May 04 2012 16:35 syllogism wrote:
Sheth is mafia, I can guarantee this. Anyway, we are killing BC and/or Cephiro today. Do not vote yet if you are town, as WBG says.
thank you lord. i thought earlier you were saying "oh sheth explained stuff he's fine :3"
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Few random facts:
1) You're not getting me lynched today.
2) You're not getting BC lynched today.
3) You need to get your head checked if you think I'm scum.
I'll laugh at you all for thinking I'm scum if they ever manage to kill me, I think I'll be taking some down before that happens.
If you think I'm not town for not being "100% Calm & Analytical" in the thread, then take a serious look at Palmar for example. Has he done that? Hell no. Do you for some reason consider him obvtown? Yes. You're... just dumb.
More fun facts: Palmar wanted to get Ace & VisceraEyes killed, now look, two townies dead. Start thinking with your brain and don't buy everything they say. I bet no-one even cares that I was the only one trying to save our townie... you're just hopeless, you have no idea what's going on. -_-
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On May 04 2012 16:54 EchelonTee wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 16:35 syllogism wrote:
Sheth is mafia, I can guarantee this. Anyway, we are killing BC and/or Cephiro today. Do not vote yet if you are town, as WBG says. thank you lord. i thought earlier you were saying "oh sheth explained stuff he's fine :3"
I said he looked slightly better and since then I've had further discussions with him and he basically claimed mafia. I also re-evaluated old information and realized Sheth isn't stupid and this is exactly how he tends to play as mafia.
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Sandroba has plenty of time, but he is rather playing witcher 2. He, too, has claimed mafia to me and anyone who knows me and sandroba should just take my word on it.
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FFS I DON'T CARE IF YOU'RE 100% CALM OR ANALYTICAL. I realize there are multiple types of play!! why do you keep on essentializing the case against you w/o addressing the core parts??
god when have I ever said you need to be like that Cephiro? honestly you haven't done jack shit!!!!!!!!!!!
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On May 04 2012 17:20 EchelonTee wrote:
FFS I DON'T CARE IF YOU'RE 100% CALM OR ANALYTICAL. I realize there are multiple types of play!! why do you keep on essentializing the case against you w/o addressing the core parts??
god when have I ever said you need to be like that Cephiro? honestly you haven't done jack shit!!!!!!!!!!!
I've done much more than you think, that's exactly what this certain block of people wants the majority to think, and for the most part they've unfortunately succeeded. I bet even if I let you all kill me on purpose you would still be too stupid to see who's dragging the ropes and laughing. Why should I even try to make a more proper case here in-thread, when all that happens is that gonzaw jumps out of the bush, starts screaming "BLATANT OMGUZ!", sheeped by wbg because "I'm so scummy"; just like Ace & VE where, followed up by Palmar & syllo being "As we have the power of the game in our hands, we order you braindead townies who can't think for yourselves to try to kill Cephiro".
I just can't believe that there aren't more townies that realize what's going on. And I can't believe that the DT is just herping around doing smartass decisions that help us to no extent.
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On May 04 2012 17:30 Cephiro wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 17:20 EchelonTee wrote:
FFS I DON'T CARE IF YOU'RE 100% CALM OR ANALYTICAL. I realize there are multiple types of play!! why do you keep on essentializing the case against you w/o addressing the core parts??
god when have I ever said you need to be like that Cephiro? honestly you haven't done jack shit!!!!!!!!!!! I just can't believe that there aren't more townies that realize what's going on. And I can't believe that the DT is just herping around doing smartass decisions that help us to no extent.
???
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Did you just reveal to thread that there is a DT??? why the hell would you leak that???
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man it doesn't matter what cephiro is at this point, he's reached the level where even if he's town he's too disruptive to live.
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Cephiro actually has no idea if there's a DT in the setup and is merely speculating about something I speculated to him via PM. I have no idea wtf he's doing.
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On May 04 2012 17:34 wherebugsgo wrote:
man it doesn't matter what cephiro is at this point, he's reached the level where even if he's town he's too disruptive to live.
Yeah, I'm the only town that is actually trying to keep townies alive. Clearly I'm very disruptive.
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it's 4:30 am. i'm sleeping. hopefully when I come back I will be more ineberiated and thus more ready to deal with the shenanigans of this thread.
hey people
DISCUSS THE BC LYNCH. you know, the one that most people agree on? is it an easy bandwagon? A good lynch on scum? we should discuss it!
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On May 04 2012 17:41 EchelonTee wrote:
it's 4:30 am. i'm sleeping. hopefully when I come back I will be more ineberiated and thus more ready to deal with the shenanigans of this thread.
hey people
DISCUSS THE BC LYNCH. you know, the one that most people agree on? is it an easy bandwagon? A good lynch on scum? we should discuss it!
Nothing to discuss about, it's another bad lynch on a townie, just like the earlier one on VE.
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So cephiro, if you are a vig why didn't you confirm yourself by shooting last night, when it was clear people believed you were scum?
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