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Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
May 01 2012 00:06 GMT
#95
Doesn't matter if it doesn't prove anything. Your hesitation to even claim townie makes me suspect you. The fact that you admit to having no experience in this game makes me believe you are a safe vote. Fortunately, we are allowed to vote no lynch, so I am inclined to let my suspicion remain just that. Tread carefully Ange777...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
May 01 2012 00:08 GMT
#96
On May 01 2012 09:06 paschl wrote:
Fwiw, i read through the forum a little and there were previous 9er newbie games.
In the setup thread it lists the following possible lineups:
" 1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 5 Vanilla Townies, Sane Cop, Doctor.
1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 5 Vanilla Townies, Sane Cop, Jailkeeper.
1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 5 Vanilla Townies, Doctor, Jailkeeper.
1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 6 Vanilla Townies, Sane Cop.
1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 6 Vanilla Townies, Jailkeeper.
1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 6 Vanilla Townies, Doctor."

So i highly suspect this game uses one of the same systems.

And no Gummy, you usually dont win if youre wrong.

Half those games had no detective/cop. What is this?!?!?! lol
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
May 01 2012 00:35 GMT
#102
On May 01 2012 09:10 Matriarch wrote:
Yay the game started!
I'm vanilla townie and am very excited to be in my first real game.
I really hope we get some more active posters soon as so we can get rolling on this scum hunt!

Don't worry. I already figured out who the scum are. It's paschl and ange. Thank me later.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
May 01 2012 10:55 GMT
#112
##Vote Clawtrocity
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
May 01 2012 10:56 GMT
#113
On April 28 2012 04:20 Mattchew wrote:
Remember, three or fewer games played to sign up!

Player List
    1.) dahdum
    2.) Gummy
    3.) AcesRequiem
    4.) Matriarch
    5.) DeMorcerf
    6.) FirmTofu
    7.) Clawtrocity
    8.) paschl
    9.) Ange777



Filter
    1.)
    2.)
    3.)
    4.)
    5.)
    6.)
    7.)
    8.)
    9.)


Replacements
    1.)
    2.)
    3.)
    4.)


2/2 Mafia Remaining
?/? Goon(s)
?/? Roleblocker(s)
?/? Framer(s)
?/? Godfather(s)
?/? Role cop(s)
Mafia KP currently equals 1

7/7 Town
??/?? Vanilla Townie(s)
??/?? Detective(s)
??/?? Medic(s)
??/?? Jailkeeper(s)
??/?? Vigilante(s)

As usual, PM me for the observer QT, or if you wish to be listed as an official coach

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
May 01 2012 11:04 GMT
#114
On May 01 2012 19:55 Gummy wrote:
##Vote Clawtrocity

There is no strategic reason to claim medic first turn. That is suicide if you cannot save yourself.
The way I see it, clawtrocity is:
1.) Useless
2.) A townie who is trying to take the bullet for the real medic. I have no reason to believe there would be two medics.
3.) Scum who is trying to cast away suspicion from himself.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
May 01 2012 11:06 GMT
#115
Yes. My questioning of Ange for her hesitation to roleclaim was disingenuous.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
May 01 2012 11:16 GMT
#116
We still haven't heard anything from AcesRequiem.

Just fyi, in case you vote me off, I currently suspect Clawtrocity and Paschl.

I am almost certain that

ange777
demorcef
dahdum
firmtofu

are good guys.

I believe Matriarch and AcesRequiem, so far, to be entirely useless.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
May 01 2012 17:42 GMT
#123
Claw is obviously scum. When I get killed tonight you know the other mafia is Paschl.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
May 01 2012 17:45 GMT
#124
If we are successful in lynching Claw and we discover he was scum, the other mafia must be tofu.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
May 01 2012 17:48 GMT
#126
Here is my logic:

Claw is not medic, but is banking on there being "another" medic who will waste his save on him since he has now "revealed" himself as the medic.

Tofu revealed detective contingent on Claw's being medic to save him. But this reasoning is inherently flawed since he is in the best case dead second night. Both revealed means night 1.) mafia kill medic -> 2.) mafia kill detective. This strategy is so obvious that these night kills won't even reveal any information as to the identity of the scum. Thus, we can infer that there was collusion between Claw and Tofu's role claims. Therefore, if one is scum, so is the other.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
May 01 2012 17:53 GMT
#128
Since my train of logic is fairly revelatory of my prior dishonesty, here's a poll.

Poll: Who should I save?

DeMorcef (5)
 
22%

paschl (5)
 
22%

Ange777 (3)
 
13%

dahdum (2)
 
9%

AcesRequiem (2)
 
9%

Matriarch (2)
 
9%

FirmTofu (2)
 
9%

Clawtrocity (2)
 
9%

23 total votes

Your vote: Who should I save?

(Vote): dahdum
(Vote): AcesRequiem
(Vote): Matriarch
(Vote): DeMorcef
(Vote): FirmTofu
(Vote): Clawtrocity
(Vote): paschl
(Vote): Ange777


¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
May 01 2012 17:54 GMT
#129
Lynch all liars is retarded. It is the correct strategy for townie special roles to lie, especially since medics cannot protect themselves. If a medic could protect himself, he would only then have no incentive to lie.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
May 01 2012 17:58 GMT
#130
Actually even then, it would be risky since there might be a mafia roleblocker.
Lying is just part of this game.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
May 01 2012 18:03 GMT
#131
On May 02 2012 02:41 dahdum wrote:
I'm on PDT (-7) time, so it's morning at work for me, hence recent inactivity. LAL (Lynch All Liars) is in the best interest of town since scum want people confused and questioning, as well as the ability to lie themselves.

I can post more at lunch/evening.

If claw and tofu are gone and we still haven't won, you will be the next person on my list.

Scum suspicion level:

1 ) Clawtrocity
2.) FirmTofu
3.) dahdum
4.) paschl
5.) AcesRequiem
6.) Matriarch
7.) Ange777
8.) DeMorcerf
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
May 01 2012 18:08 GMT
#133
On May 02 2012 03:04 paschl wrote:
Not all lies are bad. It should be called selectively lynch a lot of liars.

So we have a lot of liars now? Sounds pretty scummy to me.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
May 02 2012 01:12 GMT
#143
There's virtually always a reason to lie. Some lies like "I'm Mafia, bro" never make sense. Others, like role claiming townie, or a vanilla townie claiming a special role have obvious incentive to lie. My vanilla townie claim, for example, baited Clawtrocity's claim, which more or less proves him to be mafia from my perspective. All that remains is for me to convince you guys that
1.) There are not 2 medics
2.) I am the medic and he is not the medic.

Clawtrocity has already become ambiguous with his language meaning he is backing off from his role claim, without any kind of real justification for why he faked his role claimed in the first case.

Tofu, as DeMorcef implied, put himself straight in the Mafia's cross hairs. He won't be alive more than 2 nights. So either he's bad, he's a martyr, or he's scum. As a martyr, he could be buying the real detective at least 2 nights of unchecked reveals. Legitimate reason to lie, especially since clawtrocity's role claim and subsequent waffling takes precedence in day play. More likely, however, Claw and Tofu got together and hatched a poorly thought out plan to make subsequent role claims. Scum is scum is scum.

Seeing as I've already counter-claimed medic, there is no plausible reason to kill me first day, since I'll be targeted first night anyway. I might not be targeted first night so as to cast aspersion on my credibility, but this is highly unlikely since a dead medic is strictly better than a weakly credible medic from the scum's point of view.

Since I am 99% sure that clawtrocity is scum, leaving 6 v 1 with at least one townie special role remaining are fantastic odds. This narrative should be corroborated by the results of the first cycle.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
May 02 2012 02:28 GMT
#144
I wish I were better at grammaring without grammar check or edit button.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
May 02 2012 03:30 GMT
#146
Claw is not medic. Highly doubt Tofu is detective.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
May 02 2012 04:09 GMT
#148
scum
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
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