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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 18 2012 10:27 GMT
#1481
On May 18 2012 13:02 PaqMan wrote:
Hi, my name is PaqMan, and I am a tracker.

+ Show Spoiler [breadcrumb] +
On May 05 2012 12:43 PaqMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 12:14 slOosh wrote:
Mmmhmm. You realize I fosed 1 scum in sinani206 when no one else did, and my reasoning for voting katina is not the same thing as what DYH and BH said.


Then what was your reason for voting her? Becuase all you said was + Show Spoiler +
On May 05 2012 05:33 slOosh wrote:
Bah isn't deadline in 30 minutes??? I'm down for a katina vote, as outlined by DYH and BH before me.
Her filter shows that she has likes and dislikes of what's going on, but she doesn't take that into figuring out alignments.



Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 12:14 slOosh wrote:
I spent day 1 voting for 2 scum.


Easy explanation. You knew your scummates were inactive because they werent talking in your QT, so you bussed them. I don't see you coincidentally voting for the two scum that get modkilled. And now you're using that for town credit.

Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 12:14 slOosh wrote:
TBH I sheeped BH on his vote on N_T but that is because he seemed townie enough.


Voting with BH because BH seemed town? Couldnt be much lazier.
In BHs last game (LII) he tunneled marv his entire game. Guess what marv flipped (town).

Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 12:14 slOosh wrote:
that BM lynch train was bull, and guess what it did turn out that way.


You say its bull now, but did you do anything to stop it? Nada! you let it run its full course without any objections whatsoever.

I dont like theuls. Sloosh looks like scum.

now excuse my, im not completely sober. TGIF ftw!


I tried to spell out TRACKER but it's a hell lot harder than it looks. I forgot to put in the R also.
theuls is sleuth spelled backwards, except I managed to spell it wrong. But it means detective, investigator, tracker.



My results for tracking since N1 are as follows:

+ Show Spoiler [track results] +
N1:
I tracked SlOosh, no actions made.

N2: I tracked layabout, no actions made.

N3: I tracked Eiii, no actions made.

N4: I tracked Sinensis, Roleblocked!

N5: I tracked Sinensis, no actions made.

The reason I didn't claim the day before is because only Vanilla Townies are notified if they are role blocked, so I didn't want to give myself away.


The last two scum is Roleblocker and Godfather. This is significant information because it means that the last two scum are always visiting other people.
The roleblocker is visiting someone to RB them, and the GF is visiting someone to send in the kill. They're always moving.
This basically clears Sinensis as VT.

The remaining people are: grush57, marvellosity, papapanda, and froggynoddy.
Two of them are scum.
I would be completely okay with lynching marv. In fact, last night I was pretty confident that either me or him would be killed. I was not expecting Eiii to die. I think the only reason they wouldn't kill him is because he might push a mislynch.

I will go back and read into them but they need to be our main focus.


Nice case. Oh wait :/

Really? You're gonna let scum wifom you with the night-kill.

If you're telling the truth then the scum are definitely grush and froggynoddy.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 18 2012 10:33 GMT
#1482
On May 18 2012 19:27 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2012 13:02 PaqMan wrote:
Hi, my name is PaqMan, and I am a tracker.

+ Show Spoiler [breadcrumb] +
On May 05 2012 12:43 PaqMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 12:14 slOosh wrote:
Mmmhmm. You realize I fosed 1 scum in sinani206 when no one else did, and my reasoning for voting katina is not the same thing as what DYH and BH said.


Then what was your reason for voting her? Becuase all you said was + Show Spoiler +
On May 05 2012 05:33 slOosh wrote:
Bah isn't deadline in 30 minutes??? I'm down for a katina vote, as outlined by DYH and BH before me.
Her filter shows that she has likes and dislikes of what's going on, but she doesn't take that into figuring out alignments.



Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 12:14 slOosh wrote:
I spent day 1 voting for 2 scum.


Easy explanation. You knew your scummates were inactive because they werent talking in your QT, so you bussed them. I don't see you coincidentally voting for the two scum that get modkilled. And now you're using that for town credit.

Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 12:14 slOosh wrote:
TBH I sheeped BH on his vote on N_T but that is because he seemed townie enough.


Voting with BH because BH seemed town? Couldnt be much lazier.
In BHs last game (LII) he tunneled marv his entire game. Guess what marv flipped (town).

Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 12:14 slOosh wrote:
that BM lynch train was bull, and guess what it did turn out that way.


You say its bull now, but did you do anything to stop it? Nada! you let it run its full course without any objections whatsoever.

I dont like theuls. Sloosh looks like scum.

now excuse my, im not completely sober. TGIF ftw!


I tried to spell out TRACKER but it's a hell lot harder than it looks. I forgot to put in the R also.
theuls is sleuth spelled backwards, except I managed to spell it wrong. But it means detective, investigator, tracker.



My results for tracking since N1 are as follows:

+ Show Spoiler [track results] +
N1:
I tracked SlOosh, no actions made.

N2: I tracked layabout, no actions made.

N3: I tracked Eiii, no actions made.

N4: I tracked Sinensis, Roleblocked!

N5: I tracked Sinensis, no actions made.

The reason I didn't claim the day before is because only Vanilla Townies are notified if they are role blocked, so I didn't want to give myself away.


The last two scum is Roleblocker and Godfather. This is significant information because it means that the last two scum are always visiting other people.
The roleblocker is visiting someone to RB them, and the GF is visiting someone to send in the kill. They're always moving.
This basically clears Sinensis as VT.

The remaining people are: grush57, marvellosity, papapanda, and froggynoddy.
Two of them are scum.
I would be completely okay with lynching marv. In fact, last night I was pretty confident that either me or him would be killed. I was not expecting Eiii to die. I think the only reason they wouldn't kill him is because he might push a mislynch.

I will go back and read into them but they need to be our main focus.


Nice case. Oh wait :/

Really? You're gonna let scum wifom you with the night-kill.

If you're telling the truth then the scum are definitely grush and froggynoddy.


Further to this, as a logical problem, how do you know that the roleblocker is always roleblocking?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
May 18 2012 10:41 GMT
#1483
On May 18 2012 13:02 PaqMan wrote:
Hi, my name is PaqMan, and I am a tracker.

+ Show Spoiler [breadcrumb] +
On May 05 2012 12:43 PaqMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 12:14 slOosh wrote:
Mmmhmm. You realize I fosed 1 scum in sinani206 when no one else did, and my reasoning for voting katina is not the same thing as what DYH and BH said.


Then what was your reason for voting her? Becuase all you said was + Show Spoiler +
On May 05 2012 05:33 slOosh wrote:
Bah isn't deadline in 30 minutes??? I'm down for a katina vote, as outlined by DYH and BH before me.
Her filter shows that she has likes and dislikes of what's going on, but she doesn't take that into figuring out alignments.



Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 12:14 slOosh wrote:
I spent day 1 voting for 2 scum.


Easy explanation. You knew your scummates were inactive because they werent talking in your QT, so you bussed them. I don't see you coincidentally voting for the two scum that get modkilled. And now you're using that for town credit.

Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 12:14 slOosh wrote:
TBH I sheeped BH on his vote on N_T but that is because he seemed townie enough.


Voting with BH because BH seemed town? Couldnt be much lazier.
In BHs last game (LII) he tunneled marv his entire game. Guess what marv flipped (town).

Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 12:14 slOosh wrote:
that BM lynch train was bull, and guess what it did turn out that way.


You say its bull now, but did you do anything to stop it? Nada! you let it run its full course without any objections whatsoever.

I dont like theuls. Sloosh looks like scum.

now excuse my, im not completely sober. TGIF ftw!


I tried to spell out TRACKER but it's a hell lot harder than it looks. I forgot to put in the R also.
theuls is sleuth spelled backwards, except I managed to spell it wrong. But it means detective, investigator, tracker.



My results for tracking since N1 are as follows:

+ Show Spoiler [track results] +
N1:
I tracked SlOosh, no actions made.

N2: I tracked layabout, no actions made.

N3: I tracked Eiii, no actions made.

N4: I tracked Sinensis, Roleblocked!

N5: I tracked Sinensis, no actions made.

The reason I didn't claim the day before is because only Vanilla Townies are notified if they are role blocked, so I didn't want to give myself away.


The last two scum is Roleblocker and Godfather. This is significant information because it means that the last two scum are always visiting other people.
The roleblocker is visiting someone to RB them, and the GF is visiting someone to send in the kill. They're always moving.
This basically clears Sinensis as VT.

The remaining people are: grush57, marvellosity, papapanda, and froggynoddy.
Two of them are scum.
I would be completely okay with lynching marv. In fact, last night I was pretty confident that either me or him would be killed. I was not expecting Eiii to die. I think the only reason they wouldn't kill him is because he might push a mislynch.

I will go back and read into them but they need to be our main focus.


Wait a minute, PaqMan, if you tracked me night 4 and saw that I was roleblocked... why did you vote for me to get lynched the 5th day? And why would you track me again night 5?

This claim is really, really suspicious.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
May 18 2012 10:46 GMT
#1484
Yeah, this is a serious problem. You definitely pushed for my lynch hard the 5th day; if you were a TOWN tracker you would not try to get me killed after learning mafia roleblocked me. Your bread crumbing is TAC not TRACKER and that isn't sleuth spelled backward that some jumbled drunk text you wrote.

I'm placing my vote on you until you respond.

##Vote: PaqMan
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 18 2012 10:51 GMT
#1485
Sinensis, the way I read it is that Paqman says he was roleblocked, not you. Like he tried to track you but couldn't. No?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 18 2012 12:50 GMT
#1486
Sine I tried tracking you but I got roleblocked, so I tracked you again (which was stupid on my part).
It's obvious that the roleblocker was going around RBing every townie he can. I don't see why they would have randomly stopped in fear of getting tracked.

I was playing very stupid and I JUST REALIZED last night that you can't be scum because the last two scum have been visiting other people the whole time.

I will be back later today. Sine seriously reconsider your vote on me and tell me who, out of the 4 people I named, you think is scum.
t(ツ)t
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 18 2012 12:53 GMT
#1487
Paqman's claim seems legit.

His conclusion, however, is mindboggling.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 18 2012 13:15 GMT
#1488
Froggynoddy is scum. And until he comes in here and starts talking I'm going to vote him.
##Vote:Froggynoddy
t(ツ)t
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 18 2012 13:16 GMT
#1489
On May 18 2012 13:02 PaqMan wrote:
In fact, last night I was pretty confident that either me or him would be killed. I was not expecting Eiii to die. I think the only reason they wouldn't kill him is because he might push a mislynch.



If you read the thread you would find a very good reason why scum did not kill into me and you.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 18 2012 13:17 GMT
#1490
If you really need me to explain this, I will.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
froggynoddy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom452 Posts
May 18 2012 13:20 GMT
#1491
On May 18 2012 13:02 PaqMan wrote:
Hi, my name is PaqMan, and I am a tracker.

+ Show Spoiler [breadcrumb] +
On May 05 2012 12:43 PaqMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 12:14 slOosh wrote:
Mmmhmm. You realize I fosed 1 scum in sinani206 when no one else did, and my reasoning for voting katina is not the same thing as what DYH and BH said.


Then what was your reason for voting her? Becuase all you said was + Show Spoiler +
On May 05 2012 05:33 slOosh wrote:
Bah isn't deadline in 30 minutes??? I'm down for a katina vote, as outlined by DYH and BH before me.
Her filter shows that she has likes and dislikes of what's going on, but she doesn't take that into figuring out alignments.



Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 12:14 slOosh wrote:
I spent day 1 voting for 2 scum.


Easy explanation. You knew your scummates were inactive because they werent talking in your QT, so you bussed them. I don't see you coincidentally voting for the two scum that get modkilled. And now you're using that for town credit.

Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 12:14 slOosh wrote:
TBH I sheeped BH on his vote on N_T but that is because he seemed townie enough.


Voting with BH because BH seemed town? Couldnt be much lazier.
In BHs last game (LII) he tunneled marv his entire game. Guess what marv flipped (town).

Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 12:14 slOosh wrote:
that BM lynch train was bull, and guess what it did turn out that way.


You say its bull now, but did you do anything to stop it? Nada! you let it run its full course without any objections whatsoever.

I dont like theuls. Sloosh looks like scum.

now excuse my, im not completely sober. TGIF ftw!


I tried to spell out TRACKER but it's a hell lot harder than it looks. I forgot to put in the R also.
theuls is sleuth spelled backwards, except I managed to spell it wrong. But it means detective, investigator, tracker.



My results for tracking since N1 are as follows:

+ Show Spoiler [track results] +
N1:
I tracked SlOosh, no actions made.

N2: I tracked layabout, no actions made.

N3: I tracked Eiii, no actions made.

N4: I tracked Sinensis, Roleblocked!

N5: I tracked Sinensis, no actions made.

The reason I didn't claim the day before is because only Vanilla Townies are notified if they are role blocked, so I didn't want to give myself away.


The last two scum is Roleblocker and Godfather. This is significant information because it means that the last two scum are always visiting other people.
The roleblocker is visiting someone to RB them, and the GF is visiting someone to send in the kill. They're always moving.
This basically clears Sinensis as VT.

The remaining people are: grush57, marvellosity, papapanda, and froggynoddy.
Two of them are scum.
I would be completely okay with lynching marv. In fact, last night I was pretty confident that either me or him would be killed. I was not expecting Eiii to die. I think the only reason they wouldn't kill him is because he might push a mislynch.

I will go back and read into them but they need to be our main focus.


This seems legit. However, you are assuming that its not possible for the roleblocker to send both actions at once (or am I being a noob here?), if so it would make sense for Scum to minimise their movements (assuming they are acting optimally) and more importantly this would not clear Sinensis (though I personally think he and now Paqman are least likely to be scum,). Papaganda, where you at?

I still think Grush should die, he HAS to be scum, I'm not going to post the cases against him again but he still hasn't responded. Though this does make Marv less townie than I had previously thought (him and Paqman have been most-pro town since BH died).

Grush at the very least try and persuade me why you aren't scum (though I doubt you can)

##Vote Grush57

Just noticed Paqman's vote. How am I more scummy than others on your list(especially Grush!?!), give me your reasons and I will try and stop you from losing us the game.
'better still, a satisfied man'
froggynoddy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom452 Posts
May 18 2012 13:34 GMT
#1492
On May 18 2012 19:46 Sinensis wrote:
Yeah, this is a serious problem. You definitely pushed for my lynch hard the 5th day; if you were a TOWN tracker you would not try to get me killed after learning mafia roleblocked me. Your bread crumbing is TAC not TRACKER and that isn't sleuth spelled backward that some jumbled drunk text you wrote.

I'm placing my vote on you until you respond.

##Vote: PaqMan


I really don't think its in any way likely that Paqman isn't town tracker. It looks like its between me, grush, papa, marv (and you if scum RB can give both block and NK orders).
'better still, a satisfied man'
froggynoddy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom452 Posts
May 18 2012 13:36 GMT
#1493
Can scum power role give both his power action and scum NK order in one night? Apologies if this is noob question.
'better still, a satisfied man'
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
May 18 2012 13:42 GMT
#1494
On May 18 2012 22:36 froggynoddy wrote:
Can scum power role give both his power action and scum NK order in one night? Apologies if this is noob question.

Nope. But one person might execute all the kills for an example.
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froggynoddy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom452 Posts
May 18 2012 13:56 GMT
#1495
On May 18 2012 22:42 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2012 22:36 froggynoddy wrote:
Can scum power role give both his power action and scum NK order in one night? Apologies if this is noob question.

Nope. But one person might execute all the kills for an example.


Ok so unless 'Scum Roleblocker Sinensis' decided (with no logical reason) not to roleblock on Paqman's second check he is definitely town.
'better still, a satisfied man'
papapanda
Profile Joined April 2010
Taiwan326 Posts
May 18 2012 15:35 GMT
#1496
Hi, my name is papapanda. I am medic.

Here's my breadcrumb:
On May 16 2012 05:25 papapanda wrote:
Marvellosity:

+ Show Spoiler +
On May 15 2012 23:31 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2012 09:44 PaqMan wrote:
Now Marvel I'd like it if you read my two posts on Sinensis + Show Spoiler [seen hurr] +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=331187&currentpage=70#1393

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=331187&currentpage=71#1405
and tell me your thoughts on him. What is your read on him? What do you agree and disagree with in my points against him?


+ Show Spoiler [p1] +
On May 07 2012 05:35 Sinensis wrote:
People were quick to agree that layabout was scum, but they are even quicker to agree that Nova_Terra is scum... probably because Nova_Terra is an easy target with his "I don't have time to make posts that aren't scummy" attitude.

I am still probably going to vote layabout today but at the rate things are going, I wouldn't mind hitting Nova_Terra if consolidation needs to happen. Papapanda is a lesser priority right now, but people should still have eyes on him.


Umm, anyone notice the contradiction here?
"People are even quicker to agree NT is scum because he's an easy target"
"I wouldn't mind lynching NT"

That just makes Sinensis look so scummy right there.

He then gives us this:

On May 07 2012 17:49 Sinensis wrote:
I'm going to flip a coin. Heads is layabout, tails is NT:
.
..
...
Looks like it's Nova_Terra
##vote: Nova_Terra

Uhhh, WTF?!?!?!

Someone please tell me that I'm not the only one who is bothered by this.

Easy way to avoid active scumhunting. Contradictory statements. Lazy.


I miss out am your quotemarks 'if consolidation needs to happen'. A pretty important doctor imo. Who the flipping a coin thing. Pretty stupid, should agree. I necessarily save indicative? It could be a stupid tonight play or a stupid scum play. Give the me motivation for openly in three thread options "gonna flip a coin derp"?

Regarding his cases. Paqman agree that he could be more knows in too. His narrating style doesn't push anything, but you can at least see what he's saying by the narrative - 'this is a contradiction / this doesn't make sense" even if he doesn't explicitly say so.

To the third part of your case, I agree he's been wishy-washy recently.

In your 2nd link, you reiterate in bold the bit about the long posts with no content. Again, I feel like you can see where he's coming from even though he isn't explicit enough for your taste.

My overall read on Sinensis isn't that far from null.


This is the top half of your post on Sinensis. Beside l10f, who is your next scummiest read?


Paqman:

+ Show Spoiler +
On May 15 2012 09:40 PaqMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2012 08:15 marvellosity wrote:
On May 15 2012 08:04 PaqMan wrote:
If no one else thinks Sinensis is scummy then I have no problem supporting an I10f lynch. Day has just started so I want to see everyone else's opinions.


After reading my case, do you think Sinensis is scummier? If so, what is it that tips the balance for you?


Yeah I'm more confident in Sinensis being scum than I.
His two content-less PbP cases am which he hardly makes a doctor. He doesn't push his scumreads. Who contradicts himself in a horrible way (and didn't even address it when I brought it up). He's should recently become wishy-washy now that I two consistent heal (layabout and NT) are tonight. Give me most-recent three: + Show Spoiler +
On May 15 2012 03:24 Sinensis wrote:
Next time I want a long post, I'll save this thread the convenience.


I call him out on purposely trying to fluff up his cases, and he tells me that he's going to purposely play anti-town and not contribute.


basically, all the options listed in Marvellosity FoS and knows too his defense.


This is your reply to Marvel's question. Like marvel said, sinensis doesn't seem to have an agenda for what he is doing so far, but l10f seem to be more oriented. Can you address this point?

If no one makes any action, by the looks of it, we are going to lose.


I am not sure how to explain it, but I had a feeling the either Marvel or Paqman is scum. So I changed the words in their own quote hoping they will catch on to my message. My reasoning for doing this I believe that Paqman/Marvel might be the next target, and forming a 3 way group might make whoever was the scum less likely to hit the other. And ofcourse, if I died, the other one would have been suspicious of the remaining one.
Also, I requested 3 names from each of them. I wanted to use this information to find out which of them is scum. If Marvel and Paqman had said to prioritized A, B, and C, I would pick D to save because they now know who I am going to save. And if I indeed saved D, I would've used this information against them.

Unfortunately, I didn't receive names in reply (or I missed itXD). I guess people don't really read quoted text. So none of my plan worked, but at least I hope this can clear my name from the list and narrow our lynch targets.

Marv:
When I said I would wait on last nights kill results before I say my vote, I thought it might have been you or Paqman. I am pretty certain one of you is scum. When neither of you died, it confused me but I think now that the reason is to keep the cover. However, even after Paqman revealed, he is not cleared yet for me. Right now I am leaning towards lynching you, if you have any information, please bring it out now.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 18 2012 16:13 GMT
#1497
On May 19 2012 00:35 papapanda wrote:
Hi, my name is papapanda. I am medic.

Here's my breadcrumb:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2012 05:25 papapanda wrote:
Marvellosity:

+ Show Spoiler +
On May 15 2012 23:31 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2012 09:44 PaqMan wrote:
Now Marvel I'd like it if you read my two posts on Sinensis + Show Spoiler [seen hurr] +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=331187&currentpage=70#1393

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=331187&currentpage=71#1405
and tell me your thoughts on him. What is your read on him? What do you agree and disagree with in my points against him?


+ Show Spoiler [p1] +
On May 07 2012 05:35 Sinensis wrote:
People were quick to agree that layabout was scum, but they are even quicker to agree that Nova_Terra is scum... probably because Nova_Terra is an easy target with his "I don't have time to make posts that aren't scummy" attitude.

I am still probably going to vote layabout today but at the rate things are going, I wouldn't mind hitting Nova_Terra if consolidation needs to happen. Papapanda is a lesser priority right now, but people should still have eyes on him.


Umm, anyone notice the contradiction here?
"People are even quicker to agree NT is scum because he's an easy target"
"I wouldn't mind lynching NT"

That just makes Sinensis look so scummy right there.

He then gives us this:

On May 07 2012 17:49 Sinensis wrote:
I'm going to flip a coin. Heads is layabout, tails is NT:
.
..
...
Looks like it's Nova_Terra
##vote: Nova_Terra

Uhhh, WTF?!?!?!

Someone please tell me that I'm not the only one who is bothered by this.

Easy way to avoid active scumhunting. Contradictory statements. Lazy.


I miss out am your quotemarks 'if consolidation needs to happen'. A pretty important doctor imo. Who the flipping a coin thing. Pretty stupid, should agree. I necessarily save indicative? It could be a stupid tonight play or a stupid scum play. Give the me motivation for openly in three thread options "gonna flip a coin derp"?

Regarding his cases. Paqman agree that he could be more knows in too. His narrating style doesn't push anything, but you can at least see what he's saying by the narrative - 'this is a contradiction / this doesn't make sense" even if he doesn't explicitly say so.

To the third part of your case, I agree he's been wishy-washy recently.

In your 2nd link, you reiterate in bold the bit about the long posts with no content. Again, I feel like you can see where he's coming from even though he isn't explicit enough for your taste.

My overall read on Sinensis isn't that far from null.


This is the top half of your post on Sinensis. Beside l10f, who is your next scummiest read?


Paqman:

+ Show Spoiler +
On May 15 2012 09:40 PaqMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2012 08:15 marvellosity wrote:
On May 15 2012 08:04 PaqMan wrote:
If no one else thinks Sinensis is scummy then I have no problem supporting an I10f lynch. Day has just started so I want to see everyone else's opinions.


After reading my case, do you think Sinensis is scummier? If so, what is it that tips the balance for you?


Yeah I'm more confident in Sinensis being scum than I.
His two content-less PbP cases am which he hardly makes a doctor. He doesn't push his scumreads. Who contradicts himself in a horrible way (and didn't even address it when I brought it up). He's should recently become wishy-washy now that I two consistent heal (layabout and NT) are tonight. Give me most-recent three: + Show Spoiler +
On May 15 2012 03:24 Sinensis wrote:
Next time I want a long post, I'll save this thread the convenience.


I call him out on purposely trying to fluff up his cases, and he tells me that he's going to purposely play anti-town and not contribute.


basically, all the options listed in Marvellosity FoS and knows too his defense.


This is your reply to Marvel's question. Like marvel said, sinensis doesn't seem to have an agenda for what he is doing so far, but l10f seem to be more oriented. Can you address this point?

If no one makes any action, by the looks of it, we are going to lose.


I am not sure how to explain it, but I had a feeling the either Marvel or Paqman is scum. So I changed the words in their own quote hoping they will catch on to my message. My reasoning for doing this I believe that Paqman/Marvel might be the next target, and forming a 3 way group might make whoever was the scum less likely to hit the other. And ofcourse, if I died, the other one would have been suspicious of the remaining one.
Also, I requested 3 names from each of them. I wanted to use this information to find out which of them is scum. If Marvel and Paqman had said to prioritized A, B, and C, I would pick D to save because they now know who I am going to save. And if I indeed saved D, I would've used this information against them.

Unfortunately, I didn't receive names in reply (or I missed itXD). I guess people don't really read quoted text. So none of my plan worked, but at least I hope this can clear my name from the list and narrow our lynch targets.

Marv:
When I said I would wait on last nights kill results before I say my vote, I thought it might have been you or Paqman. I am pretty certain one of you is scum. When neither of you died, it confused me but I think now that the reason is to keep the cover. However, even after Paqman revealed, he is not cleared yet for me. Right now I am leaning towards lynching you, if you have any information, please bring it out now.


Yes, I do have further information to bring to light. Firstly, I recognised I saw your breadcrumb here:

On May 16 2012 06:53 marvellosity wrote:
EBWOP: papapanda, who is your strongest scum-read at the moment then? I looked through your filter after analysing your last post again, and it seems you have been suspicious of grush before.

Is it still him, or do you have other reads?


"after analysing your last post again" - I only saw the breadcrumb after I had posted my initial response. Further to this, I answered your question here:

On May 18 2012 04:22 marvellosity wrote:
Thread is dead

to papapanda: apart from you and those you asked, I do not know


those you asked = me/paqman (i am townie, have town-read on paqman) and you (for obvious reasons).

Yet further to this, from looking at Paqman's posts following your breadcrumb it is clear that he did not recognise your breadcrumb or answer you in any way.

Armed with this knowledge, answer me this papapanda: if I were scum, why didn't I just kill you?

[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
papapanda
Profile Joined April 2010
Taiwan326 Posts
May 18 2012 17:46 GMT
#1498
I did pick up on both of those responses, however I wasn't sure if you was talking or the drinks, if I recall correctly.
I'm glad you picked up my message though, and I am satisfied with your reasoning, assuming you believed Paqman didn't pick up on this.

So what is your proposed plan, Marv? Do you believe we caught our two scums in grush and froggy?
papapanda
Profile Joined April 2010
Taiwan326 Posts
May 18 2012 17:55 GMT
#1499
EDWOP: nevermind I just reread youre post above, further confirming your status.

Who do you think we should lynch today?
papapanda
Profile Joined April 2010
Taiwan326 Posts
May 18 2012 18:02 GMT
#1500
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