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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
May 08 2012 21:38 GMT
#1053
On May 09 2012 06:35 Nova_Terra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 06:33 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 09 2012 06:32 Nova_Terra wrote:
I'll post some analysis after classes tomorrow, but i do want to note how i had an accurate read on kenpachi and left my vote on him. there was no reason at that point in time to bus kenpachi, had i been scum.


Oh, another promise of some analysis in the distance future by N_T. I'm so moved.

im glad

now tell me what my motivation for bussing kenpachi at that point is in your mind


Cause he was bussing you... at the time it appeared you were going to be lynched, so KP bussed you and you counter-bussed him. EZ.

In fact, your case against him is a straight-up OMGUS:
On May 07 2012 04:37 Nova_Terra wrote:
Next, Kenpachi
Absolutely worthless, if you consider his connection case useful i dunno what to say
Vote: Kenpachi


A case like this is easy to abandon if neither of you flip (it's surrounded by other posts that aren't about KP) but if either he OR you flips you can point to this and say "hey look he's scum and i'm town"

In any case, classic bus. Scum always busses.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
May 08 2012 21:38 GMT
#1054
On May 09 2012 06:36 Nova_Terra wrote:
And im starting to like the layabout case, especially when you add the recent results of day/night posts


What about the recent results supports the layabout case? please elaborate.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
May 08 2012 21:39 GMT
#1055
On May 09 2012 06:37 Nova_Terra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 06:36 grush57 wrote:
On May 09 2012 06:35 Nova_Terra wrote:
On May 09 2012 06:33 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 09 2012 06:32 Nova_Terra wrote:
I'll post some analysis after classes tomorrow, but i do want to note how i had an accurate read on kenpachi and left my vote on him. there was no reason at that point in time to bus kenpachi, had i been scum.


Oh, another promise of some analysis in the distance future by N_T. I'm so moved.

im glad

now tell me what my motivation for bussing kenpachi at that point is in your mind


You're the scum not him how should he know.

Obviously, scum has to have a motivation behind doing things. that move doesnt make sense from a scum point of view, unless bh thinks of it differently, and therefore i am asking


Busses and distancing always make sense as scum... if scum just ignored each other or always voted as one block they'd be outed pretty quickly. Scum tend to soft-defend each other to prevent mild pressure and will make shitty attacks on each other to lay the groundwork for gaining town cred later by pointing at the previous shitty attacks.

Like you are, right now.

Scum.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
May 08 2012 21:49 GMT
#1059
On May 09 2012 06:46 Nova_Terra wrote:
how is my vote on kenpachi an omgus
thats a filter check which saw nothing of use. and connection cases are terrible
and please, i at least think my scum play is not so dumb that i would get myself bussed by an ally then start a vote against said ally with no xontent with the purpose of getting him lynched


KP calls you scum:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 05 2012 06:50 Nova_Terra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 06:31 Kenpachi wrote:
ARE YOU GUYS KIDDING ME? DO YOU NOT NOTICE THE TREND HERE?

NT i thought at first was not mafia but then layabout cames along and throws in POLICY LYNCH TIME
NO
NO
NO
WTF? NO

i believe layabout and NT are mafia together because NT NT had aroused suspicions in thread andended in hotshit. He was completely saved by something so stupid. layabout, as his buttbuddy saves him with such a weak push that only the newbs are following.
by experience, policy lynch almost always never works. its a scare tactic, not an actual method used to lynch people, especially day 1
i also believe marvellosity is mafia with them because he said NT is scummy and changes his mind like nothing happened

On May 05 2012 02:43 marvellosity wrote:
At the moment Nova looks the scummiest for reasons already expanded upon by others. The fact that so little of anything has occurred today makes Nova's stance that he doesn't want to air his tentative reads all the worse.


On May 05 2012 05:53 marvellosity wrote:
Sold, I don't have a solid scumread on anyone and BM is just useless and anti-town no matter his alignment.

such a contradiction, they were made about 3 hours apart.

BM is a potent player and everyone knows that. I feel day 1 lynching a veteran is the worst thing you can do. If i were mafia, id put BM near the top of my priority list just because of his sheer experience.

Oh wonderful, a connection case. Nothing quite like totally breaking the window of nice town atmosphere.
This doesnt make any sense. he thinks im not mafia but then suddenly does because people dont immediately vote me and instead make a different target. And suddenly those people are mafia too. wtf you said you thought i was townie until these people thought i was townie.



You respond to it kinda noncomittally, mostly with a "WTF".
Then:
On May 05 2012 06:52 Nova_Terra wrote:
Can we plz kill kenpachi soon

Then:
On May 07 2012 04:37 Nova_Terra wrote:
Next, Kenpachi
Absolutely worthless, if you consider his connection case useful i dunno what to say
Vote: Kenpachi



As you can see, this is a low-effort counter-bus. N_T doesn't post a case, making it an OMGUS to KP's bus.

N_T answer my layabout question please.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
May 08 2012 21:51 GMT
#1060
On May 09 2012 06:49 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 06:46 Nova_Terra wrote:
how is my vote on kenpachi an omgus
thats a filter check which saw nothing of use. and connection cases are terrible
and please, i at least think my scum play is not so dumb that i would get myself bussed by an ally then start a vote against said ally with no xontent with the purpose of getting him lynched


Don't try to use Kenpachi's mod-kill as an excuse - he was never at any real risk of being lynched, and if he was still present it would have just been a nice little bussing move.

To the bold: instead we're supposed to believe you're so negligent as townie that you promise content after you sleep, but then you decide to try to defer it yet another day?


Yeah, I mean the big thing, NT, is you didn't expect KP to wake up dead. I'd already used my shot and the odds of a second vig was fairly low. You and KP bussing each other was a long term plan for one of you to get town cred.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
May 08 2012 21:51 GMT
#1061
On May 09 2012 06:38 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 06:36 Nova_Terra wrote:
And im starting to like the layabout case, especially when you add the recent results of day/night posts


What about the recent results supports the layabout case? please elaborate.


N_T I'm still waiting for a response on this.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
May 08 2012 22:00 GMT
#1063
On May 09 2012 06:56 Nova_Terra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 06:49 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 09 2012 06:46 Nova_Terra wrote:
how is my vote on kenpachi an omgus
thats a filter check which saw nothing of use. and connection cases are terrible
and please, i at least think my scum play is not so dumb that i would get myself bussed by an ally then start a vote against said ally with no xontent with the purpose of getting him lynched


KP calls you scum:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 05 2012 06:50 Nova_Terra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 06:31 Kenpachi wrote:
ARE YOU GUYS KIDDING ME? DO YOU NOT NOTICE THE TREND HERE?

NT i thought at first was not mafia but then layabout cames along and throws in POLICY LYNCH TIME
NO
NO
NO
WTF? NO

i believe layabout and NT are mafia together because NT NT had aroused suspicions in thread andended in hotshit. He was completely saved by something so stupid. layabout, as his buttbuddy saves him with such a weak push that only the newbs are following.
by experience, policy lynch almost always never works. its a scare tactic, not an actual method used to lynch people, especially day 1
i also believe marvellosity is mafia with them because he said NT is scummy and changes his mind like nothing happened

On May 05 2012 02:43 marvellosity wrote:
At the moment Nova looks the scummiest for reasons already expanded upon by others. The fact that so little of anything has occurred today makes Nova's stance that he doesn't want to air his tentative reads all the worse.


On May 05 2012 05:53 marvellosity wrote:
Sold, I don't have a solid scumread on anyone and BM is just useless and anti-town no matter his alignment.

such a contradiction, they were made about 3 hours apart.

BM is a potent player and everyone knows that. I feel day 1 lynching a veteran is the worst thing you can do. If i were mafia, id put BM near the top of my priority list just because of his sheer experience.

Oh wonderful, a connection case. Nothing quite like totally breaking the window of nice town atmosphere.
This doesnt make any sense. he thinks im not mafia but then suddenly does because people dont immediately vote me and instead make a different target. And suddenly those people are mafia too. wtf you said you thought i was townie until these people thought i was townie.



You respond to it kinda noncomittally, mostly with a "WTF".
Then:
On May 05 2012 06:52 Nova_Terra wrote:
Can we plz kill kenpachi soon

Then:
On May 07 2012 04:37 Nova_Terra wrote:
Next, Kenpachi
Absolutely worthless, if you consider his connection case useful i dunno what to say
Vote: Kenpachi



As you can see, this is a low-effort counter-bus. N_T doesn't post a case, making it an OMGUS to KP's bus.

N_T answer my layabout question please.

If i was mafia and saw that kind of case against me, i would laugh because its ridiculous
im getting to that


You know, if that's your only response.. then you are in fact laughing at it because its ridiculous, as you said you would do if you were mafia. Don't think you can convince me you're just a bad town player by using terrible logic! I know you're smarter than this!
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
May 08 2012 22:02 GMT
#1065
I must admit I am not a Layabout fan either. I really think N_T is scum, though-- every time we pressure him he just asks for more time then bails. He's doing the same thing right now to avoid getting lynched again and I will not let him get away with it.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
May 08 2012 22:05 GMT
#1067
On May 09 2012 07:03 Nova_Terra wrote:
1. Layabout goes hard on townie Bill Murray, who then is lynched
2. Layabout goes on Townie Blubbdavid who is then lynched
3. Layabout defends Mafia kenpachi, who dies to kurumis fist of modkillery
this shows outcomes that makes layabout seem more scummy


Ah, that's interesting, May 9th Nova_Terra! However, I have another player here who disagrees with you.

His name is May 7th Nova_Terra! You should argue with him:

On May 07 2012 05:29 Nova_Terra wrote:
I dont think that layabout is scum, as 1. i really doubt that scum would push for a town lynch so hard and defend a scum mate who wasnt even active, which scum would know

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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
May 09 2012 11:36 GMT
#1114
N_T has provided us with a malformed puke-stocking of a filter and I'm alarmed that anyone isn't voting him.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
May 09 2012 11:47 GMT
#1115
On May 09 2012 06:32 Nova_Terra wrote:
I'll post some analysis after classes tomorrow


If nothing else, at least make an effort to conform to this promise. At present the sum of your contributions to the thread would sour ripened grapes, bruise peaches and curdle milk.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
May 09 2012 16:11 GMT
#1118
Assuming he is indeed telling the truth, rather than frantically flailing around for some additional way to solve, that does indeed suck. It sucks a great deal ;_; I got a case for my phone but I'm still worried about dropping it. In any case, NT, this silence is still totes preggers with meaning-- where's your analysis at?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
May 09 2012 16:14 GMT
#1121
I used to have this awesomely durable flip phone. I legitimately used it to pound in nails once. Now I have a Samsung Galaxy Nexus, and I've traded the hammerkind attribute for being able to read/post on TL anywhere. A fair trade. So, I guess while we're here, got any questions for me Marv?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
May 09 2012 16:16 GMT
#1122
As a side note, if via some inconceivable abomination against reason we're not lynching NT, Layabout is acceptable to me.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
May 09 2012 16:21 GMT
#1127
On May 10 2012 01:19 Mementoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 01:14 Blazinghand wrote:
I used to have this awesomely durable flip phone. I legitimately used it to pound in nails once. Now I have a Samsung Galaxy Nexus, and I've traded the hammerkind attribute for being able to read/post on TL anywhere. A fair trade. So, I guess while we're here, got any questions for me Mementoss?


Sure, but only because you are so sexy. I just had a dream about you but I won't tell you the details. Do you still think Nova is the best lynch for the day? What are your recent thoughts on laya? Recent thoughts on marv?

Do you have any reads outside the popular candidates?

Do you still think that paq is town? Any possibility of a paqman/Nova scum team?

Im at school. Just typed the first Q's that came to my head. Going out tonight and working on report. Will try to post before I head out to the pub after school.


Well, that's kinda weird. I'm not into long distance things... but we can talk about that after the game. Okay though I'll answer your questions.

1) Nova best lynch, Laya okay, Marv acting like he did as town in LIII
2) Froggy is scummy
3) Yes, Yes


On May 10 2012 01:19 marvellosity wrote:
Well, we seem to have, out of 12 players, 6 lurkers by my count. Amidst our NT/layabout discussions, they're getting a free ride. Have any particularly roused your suspicions?


yeah froggynoddy
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
May 09 2012 19:01 GMT
#1132
Froggynoddy hasn't posted in 24 hours. Neither has Grush57. I'm suspecting one or both of you is town, and you're hurting us. Ow. Ow.

Ow.

Stop it.

Ow.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
May 10 2012 20:20 GMT
#1212
Good morning gents. Don't worry Blazinghand is here 2 sav u. I'll read on what's happening with Grush and see if he's a better candidate than NT.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
May 10 2012 20:30 GMT
#1213
So from what I can tell NT is throwing away his vote on Panda presently. However, Grush has never made a case. The fact that layabout has voted him makes me not want to vote him, but it's possible there's a bus going on.

Having examined grush's filter and finding 0 pro-town posting, I am willing to vote grush instead of N_T, but only if there's no chance of getting N_T lynched. Is anyone else around?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
May 10 2012 20:33 GMT
#1215
Oh hm that's a good point layabout. Since you're probably gonna get lynched, if you are indeed blue try to pump out as many reads and info as possible in the next half hour.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
May 10 2012 20:35 GMT
#1218
On May 11 2012 05:33 Mementoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 05:30 Blazinghand wrote:
So from what I can tell NT is throwing away his vote on Panda presently. However, Grush has never made a case. The fact that layabout has voted him makes me not want to vote him, but it's possible there's a bus going on.

Having examined grush's filter and finding 0 pro-town posting, I am willing to vote grush instead of N_T, but only if there's no chance of getting N_T lynched. Is anyone else around?


I highly doubt the chance of a bus at 10-2 unless its between two highly scrutinized players, ala NT and layabout, but they aren't pushing each others lynches for most of the day. They would require like 5 mislynches to win and town still hasn't lost any power roles yet. (if there even is any)


That's true. A bus would be pretty expensive for scum at this point. It's profoundly unlikely that grush and layabout are both scum.

I think if we do have power roles, they are very vanilla. Given the number of VT flips, besides me we probably have like a DT or maybe a DT and a Medic or something. It's also worth noting all the scum flips are vanilla-- scum may not have any PRs.
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