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Blazinghand
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Modkills: 2-1 Don't worry guys Kurumi's got us covered | ||
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Currently it's 19-3. Starting tomorrow it'll be: 17-3 - 15-3 - 13-3 - 11-3 - 9-3 - 7-3 - 5-3 + 4-2 + 3-1 + 2-1 So assuming we ONLY mislynch until LYLO, then we only properly lynch, scum has no extra KP, and town has no vigis or saves, we have 6 mislynches left to catch the 3 scum. If we catch a scum player though their KP drops to 1 earlier. | ||
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Here's my crumb: On May 06 2012 03:27 Blazinghand wrote: Man this situation just makes me want to eat my own heart Type "eat heart of" into google search (but don't hit enter) and it'll suggest "eat heart of palm" Palm -> Palmar, my target. | ||
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On May 06 2012 06:46 Mementoss wrote: Also 3rd KP could be mafia vig. At least we haven't lost any power roles yet. There are no mafia Vigis-- and a pyro wouldn't be able to kill someone until N2. | ||
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On May 06 2012 07:34 Mementoss wrote: EBWOP: This is the second time, I've had to ask/force somewhat of a scum read out of you Marvellosity. You'd think you'd want to contribute to the discussion, and actually provide them without being provoked? You'd be surprised how much effort it takes to get a town-aligned Marvellosity to contribute. | ||
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On May 06 2012 16:14 l10f wrote: Blazinghand is confirmed now with his shot? I'd like to think so. There are only 3 mafia alive and no hatters flipped, which means the 3rd kill had to come from a town vigi. As the saying goes, though, "nobody is ever confirmed"-- but I doubt scum would be foolish enough to counterclaim. A 1-1 trade would be awesome for us in the current situation. | ||
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Blazinghand
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Ghost_403 is scum and should be lynched. This is my case on him. It is brief, like his posting history. In any case, Ghost_403 is lurking and should be lynched. I'm gonna quote his entire filter here for you guys: + Show Spoiler + On May 04 2012 00:00 ghost_403 wrote: Well, now, let's see what's going on in this thread! /confrim On May 04 2012 00:20 ghost_403 wrote: Sinesis rolled scum. This post screams "I want to look useful to the town without actually thinking about what's going on." Good Day 1 lynch. ##vote sinesis That is ghost's entire filter. It is two posts. Let me contextualize the sinensis vote for you: nobody was pushing a sinensis wagon-- Ghost was the only guy to vote sinensis. He posted this very brief description, then peaced. hard. If we talk a look at Sinensis' actual case against grush and his vote on grush, it's a pretty blatant sheep of my bold, suave, sexy case on grush. The kind of thing that deserves to be pressured. In fact, if Ghost had followed this up, tipped his hand, been aggressive and generated discussion, his vote on Sinensis here would have been totes normal. I'd commend him for it. But that's not what he did. He peaced. I won't fault Ghost for being silent all night long. Lots of people are quiet at night. But his utter lack of contributions to the thread, and his unwillingness to keep up the pressure on Sinensis is telling. In fact, Sinensis actually responded to Ghost's case a few hours later: On May 04 2012 05:16 Sinensis wrote: Looks like some random dude voted me because my post screams "I want to look useful to the town without actually thinking about what's going on. [sic]" I like how he mimics the post he has a problem with by explaining himself with the same mock style I use. I don't care about his snap vote at all, let him be useless for all I care. grush57 did it occur to you that if you are innocent, you don't need to apologize when you explain why you were doing what you were doing? Being apologetic usually means someone has something to be apologetic about, if you know what I mean. I also don't know where you get off thinking your posts are funny; they're not. This is kinda a sloppy defense. He brings up a good point, though! Ghost is doing what he accuses Sinensis of doing. If Ghost were town, he'd read this and be like "yo dude i'm pressuring you. Explain yourself about grush! bleargh bleargh" etc. But ghost is scum so he lurked. Now, ghost is gonna come back to this thread at some point. He's going to tell us how he was busy, how his cat was on fire, or his grandmother needed a bath, or whatever, and that he was legitimately busy. This statement will be meaningless. Don't let his excuses fool you. Don't pay attention to what he says, but rather, what he does, and what he has done. What he has done is lurked, and lurked hard. He pretended to pressure Sinensis, and thereby dodged any wagons entirely. In fact, if you think about it, this ties in really well with a "grush is legitimately a noob townie who BH was kinda tunneling too hard D1" theory. Imagine the grush57 wagon rolled across the line, and he flipped town! At the time that Ghost voted, there were no votes on Palmar or BM. grush was clearly cracking under the pressure and dealing with it pretty poorly. If grush got lynched and flipped town, Ghost could be positioned to push a Sinensis lynch D2 or at least get some town cred for calling out some sheeping. It seems clear to me that Ghost is intentionally lurking, and trying to earn easy town cred for his scum tactics. Ghost_403 is scum. Let's lynch him like the scum he is. ##vote: ghost_403 come at me bro | ||
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On May 06 2012 19:08 blubbdavid wrote: Blazinghand, may I ask you why you didn't vig ghost instead of Palm? To be honest ghost wasn't on my radar D and N1. Palmar, on the other hand, was playing like he did in Purgatory Mafia. I explicitly defended him D1: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=331187¤tpage=18#345 + Show Spoiler + On May 04 2012 06:46 Blazinghand wrote: I don't like katina's play either. Not his soft defense of grush, nor his scummy play before. He's scummy, but grush is scummier imo. From grush, the naked vote, then the unexplained unvote, indicate to me that he's scum. it APPEARS to me that he couldn't think of an explanation for his actions that was town, so he stalled and conferred with his buddies in the scum QT. THEN, his weird, weird, "attack" on blubbdavid that doesn't include a case or a vote shows he's trying to appear like he's in the game, even though he's not. Regarding Palmar, I'm going to give him a little more breathing room D1. In my experience, here's how he typically acts. Palmar is normally a very aggressive and direct townie. He is not afraid to share his reads, to call people out, and to use his vote to pressure. He tunnels, and he is happy to call out bad play when he sees it. However, this is not the Palmar that we have in this game. He takes a little bit of time to get started. For example, take this post: It's a post that doesn't help, it's a post that contains no solid reads. This is characteristic of his posts so far this game. In his preceding posts, he has still yet to provide us with any scum reads, or to even pressure anyone. All he gives us is a couple questions and bland statements. That being said, we'll have a better idea of how helpful Palmar is being by the end of D1. He could be a valuable asset to town if he isn't scum and I'm therefore not comfortable lynching him D1. On the basis that I wanted to give him "more breathing room". However, by the end of D1 (and partway through N1, when I sent in my action), it was clear that the pro-town, aggressive and helpful Palmar was not present. This Palmar seemed a LOT more like Palmar from Purgatory Mafia or Palmar from Resistance I, who was more quiet, reserved, and lurk-ey-- a scum player. So I shot him. | ||
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On May 06 2012 19:09 Sinensis wrote: BlazingHand you're brillant right and anyone who so happens to agree with you may as well be sheeping you, right? What are your expert veteran pro reads on layabout? Why thank you! I am indeed brilliant. 9 out of 10 previous friends of mine concur. However, sheeping has nothing to do with whether or not you agree with me and everything to do with WHY and HOW you agree with me. After all, l10f voted Ghost_403 before I did. Am I sheeping him? Obviously not-- I'm not doing it to gain town cred, since I'm confirmed town, and I'm not trying to hide in the shadow of another player's case-- I daresay my case against Ghost is substantially better in terms of scope and sexiness than l10f's case on Ghost. If I had just said "yeah l10f sounds about right, I'm gonna vote Ghost to try to blend in" then that would be sheeping. If I'm considered confirmed town, think about it-- I have the LEAST information in the game. I don't know anyone's alignment. You, on the other hand, know your alignment AND have a strong idea of what mine is. The idea that my reads are somehow better because I'm definitely false is wrong. My reads won't be intentionally misleading, but they could be wrong because I'm wrong. However, I'm not wrong about ghost; I'm right. He needs to be lynched. I will examine layabout's filter and cases against him presently. | ||
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A) Blazinghand is sexy B) Blazinghand is brilliant C) Blazinghand is smooth like buttah Of course, there's some overlap between these. Some people, like Bluelightz, mostly focus on the "sexy" aspect of me (oh how he focussed!) but he was also attracted to my smooth suaveness. Really, I'm a multifaceted guy. I seem to recall VE was more interested in my stirring intellect-- it "stirred" certain parts of VE if you know what I mean (his brain). So when you call me brilliant I gladly accept your compliments. Regarding layabout: 1) he explicitly argues against policy lynches, then votes for BM and explicitly states that it is a policy lynch. 2) he hard-defends katina's play, then when she flips scum, claims he didn't 3) BM flips town 4) he states "we should kill Palmar tomorrow" and I shoot Palmar, who flips town. In summary. layabout has attacked town and defended scum all game. Furthermore, aside from his policy case against BM, he hasn't actually done ANY analysis or made ANY real cases. In fact... In fact, let's take a look at this: On May 06 2012 00:55 layabout wrote: we should kill Palmar tomorrow What the dicks is this? Well, it's an unsupported attack on Palmar. Where's his explanation? Well, it's 9 hours later, AFTER daybreak: On May 06 2012 09:23 layabout wrote: @Mementoss i thought we should lynch Palmar over "any other lurker" because he showed basically no interest in the lynch at all. Palmar is lazy as scum but when he town he usually bothers to do ... "stuff". This is actually the reason I shot Palmar-- he wasn't acting like the typical active town Palmar. But why doesn't layabout write this right away? It seems to me that a TOWN layabout would try to explain himself before daybreak... after all, he'd be worried about being shot, right? See, this is what happened: layabout wanted to set up for a Palmar push D2. Palmar was acting weird for a town Palmar, and Layabout wanted to capitalize that by getting him lynched D2 based on Meta. This is scummy. In fact, this is scummy enough that we should lynch layabout. If you think about it, the modkill of Katina and me shooting Palmar were BOTH things that layabout couldn't have predicted. He was planning, and his plans were disrupted, laying bare his scumminess. I'll get a reload from the town engineer who hopefully picked ammo and I'll shoot Ghost tonight. for now. I'll ##unvote ##vote layabout Thanks for bringing this to my attention. As an aside, Ghost, don't think you're in the clear. I'd love the opportunity to go potty all over your filter, but it's only 2 posts so far. Post more! | ||
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On May 06 2012 19:50 blubbdavid wrote: I see, Blazinghand is switching cases so it looks like he doesn't sheep l10f. you wanna mess | ||
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On May 07 2012 03:00 layabout wrote: BH is also criticising me for saying that we should kill the player that he decided to shoot. False. I am criticizing you for saying we should kill Palmar, and not posting a case against him until 9 hours, after daybreak. Did you actually read my case? On May 07 2012 03:00 layabout wrote: have i missed anything? Yes, my criticism is based on HOW you did what you did, not what you did. Is it really typical layabout play to make a 1-sentence accusation halfway through the night then not follow up with a case until after daybreak? Cause I had some respect for your town play... | ||
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KP hasn't posted in 24 hours. Eiiii hasn't posted in 24 hours. PPanda hasn't posted in over 36 hours. Froggy hasn't posted in over 48 hours. NT hasn't posted in nearly 24 hours. I mention this because it's literally impossible all 6 of you are scum. AT LEAST 3 of you are town players who are actively hurting town. OW OW OW OW stop hurting town stop it stop omg why aren't you posting | ||
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