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@SA: I missed layabout doing that on my note sheet. Let me go take a look at that.
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Whoah.
On May 05 2012 05:43 layabout wrote:Katina few posts have been critical of the disruptive play at the beginning, and acted to stamp out the bad. Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 08:00 Katina wrote:On May 03 2012 07:22 SomethingAwesome wrote:On May 03 2012 07:18 blubbdavid wrote:
Haha, we have two scumslips already.
Maybe you don't know but the role PM's for vanilla townie were sent in normal font. modkill for role PM shit? idk how to answer this without breaking rules.. you are scum... all townies will know this -mattchew You are pretty quick be calling people scum Katina Implies that the "blub scumslip affair" is stupid (it was) by implying that the accusations are rather hastily made (which further implies that they are poorly thought out) Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 08:11 Katina wrote:On May 03 2012 08:02 Blazinghand wrote:On May 03 2012 08:00 Katina wrote:On May 03 2012 07:22 SomethingAwesome wrote:On May 03 2012 07:18 blubbdavid wrote:
Haha, we have two scumslips already.
Maybe you don't know but the role PM's for vanilla townie were sent in normal font. modkill for role PM shit? idk how to answer this without breaking rules.. you are scum... all townies will know this -mattchew You are pretty quick be calling people scum Is that your whole contribution to the thread? Please, so overwhelming! Stop contributing so much! I am being sarcastic because this sentence alone that is vaguely, VAGUELY criticizering SA is far less than he has done all game for town. Game just started honey. You are so quick to run to his defense... katina points out that BH is being a big drama queen. Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 08:32 Katina wrote:On May 03 2012 08:15 Blazinghand wrote:On May 03 2012 08:14 blubbdavid wrote:
Btw, I sense some kind of BlazingKenpachi party. Didn't work out so great in Aperture Mafia. On May 03 2012 08:11 Katina wrote:On May 03 2012 08:02 Blazinghand wrote:On May 03 2012 08:00 Katina wrote:On May 03 2012 07:22 SomethingAwesome wrote:On May 03 2012 07:18 blubbdavid wrote:
Haha, we have two scumslips already.
Maybe you don't know but the role PM's for vanilla townie were sent in normal font. modkill for role PM shit? idk how to answer this without breaking rules.. you are scum... all townies will know this -mattchew You are pretty quick be calling people scum Is that your whole contribution to the thread? Please, so overwhelming! Stop contributing so much! I am being sarcastic because this sentence alone that is vaguely, VAGUELY criticizering SA is far less than he has done all game for town. Game just started honey. You are so quick to run to his defense... You're still not contributing, and being indirect. You're scum. ##unvote
##vote: Katinacome at me bro Not contributing? The game started a couple hours ago.... There hasn't been time. Indirect? Last I checked I was pretty direct with SA. Katina points out that the game is hours old and that there has not been time to contribute in response to BH's vote on her for not contributing. Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 05:05 Katina wrote:On May 04 2012 04:15 grush57 wrote:On May 04 2012 03:39 blubbdavid wrote:
I am still waiting for grush to be useful. But going through his filter in other games, my hopes will be smited.
Palmar looks like a good lynch candidate too, because he 1) isn't townielike, 2) isn't making much sense 3) voted for me without reasoning.
I assume we still have 24h+ for voting? Common atleast my useless posts are funny unlike yours. Plus, you didn't understand the situation of that game I played(I'm the same role this game too). Anyways, I'm not sure what to make of the last 3 pages. It is full of useless posts and spam and Bill Murray didn't even start yet. Several posts saying nothing except that "I'm town, trust me i gotta go.... eat?" (Like this post except im not hungry atm :D) For my reasoning of Katina vote, the game just started and blazinghand was accusing Katina for his scumminess, and I agreed so I voted for him, plus I wanted to get the ball rolling. Granted, I realize now this was a dumbshit move that was scummy,and that is my horrible reasoning for it. If you don't like it, Sorry. I would vote you blubbdavid, but I have enough people witchhunting me now.(And I didn't even rage on ladder how unlucky am I?) Though, I could just filter and quote everything and that would get the job done. I like that. BH throws around empty accusations and you jump right on board with this. Looks like a case of something called "Sheeping" Don't worry, it's curable! BM has been not been his usual posting self lately. He likes to lurk when he is Mafia. He made a few brief posts early on then disappeared into La La land. So that is something to keep an eye on. I don't like the whole idea of all the vote switching that has been going on here. It's not helpful to the town and brings nothing but confusion and chaos to everyone else. I know it's only day one but at least try to have more than one sentence before getting voting happy. Criticises grush for sheeping a baseless vote. Points out how destructive the "lets all vote for no real reason" is and tells the perpetrators to stop. If Katrina does anything suspicious it is the way in which she puts attention on BM. She tells us that he tend to lurk when he is mafia that he posted earlier and is now lurking. He isn't lurking at the moment. Lurking is playing passively, posting infrequently or posting with consistently low content. BM is inactive in this game since these are his only posts: + Show Spoiler +On May 03 2012 06:46 Bill Murray wrote:
I will extend the day and shorten the next night by one hour. Good luck and have fun.
Nobody died yet.
But don't worry.
what On May 03 2012 06:46 Bill Murray wrote:
extended days?!
hurray! Both of which of from the very beginning of the game
I honestly can't make heads or tails of this post. Take a close look at it. Is he accusing or defending Katina in this post? Does he find her actions scummy or townie? Can you tell me, because I sure can't figure it out. Instead, it's just a compilations of Katina posts with his commentary on what they say without actually saying anything. And he ends the post with we should lynch BM. Why? I have no idea.
I do not like this post.
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And, you're right, I don't like his policy lynch. That was a way out of doing any actual thinking in this game. In addition to this, he later posts this:
On May 06 2012 09:23 layabout wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Can't stay it's real late.
But:
How is " i think that a player is intelligent i don't think we should lynch them" a hard defence?
Does giving evidence as to why you think they are intelligent when asked and then saying that you felt something they did something scummy constitute a hard defence?
Why did layabout react to 2 votes on layabout when grush was in the lead with 5 votes with hours left and 13-ish players were yet to vote?
@Mementoss i thought we should lynch Palmar over "any other lurker" because he showed basically no interest in the lynch at all. Palmar is lazy as scum but when he town he usually bothers to do ... "stuff".
If he thought Palmar was scum, why didn't he push him? Also, it would be nice if his claim could be substantiated by any of his earlier posts. It can't.
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On May 07 2012 01:08 ghost_403 wrote:
In addition to that, he pushed a case on l10f based on two posts. Seriously? He's not here, that doesn't make him scum.
Gold star to JDub for being the first person to call me out for not posting here in two or three days.
So I put pressure on someone who barely posted and I get put on the naughty step.
jdub does the same to you and he gets a gold star.
kk ghost.
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On May 07 2012 00:22 ghost_403 wrote:
I swear to God I'm not dead.
Pretty close though. Linear algebra (the real stuff, not that stupid matrix multiplication stuff they teach you in grade school) is the most amazing and difficult subject I've ever studied. It's kicking my ass at the moment.
Catching up on the thread, brb.
How convenient you were done studying just after you got pressured.
On May 07 2012 01:08 ghost_403 wrote:Alright! All caught up. @BH: My cat was probably not on fire. If he was, I wouldn't know. Gave him to my old roommate, and he moved to California. Hope the cat's okay. I'd better check. That said, you were completely right, being gone like this is against my meta, and I wouldn't blame you for shooting me tonight. I hope to convince you otherwise by actually being useful to the town. I'll make you a deal: I'll help you find the three scum in the game, then you can shoot me. Sound good?
@somethingawesome: It's very strange that you ask me to make a case on Kenpachi. He's been flying under the radar for quite some time now, why did you bring it up out of the blue? To actually answer your question, this post is the only post of his I've read in this game that doesn't sound 100% kenpachi. I'm not sure what to make of it quite yet. That's not enough for me to think he's scum, but it's enough for me to keep an eye on him for a while. As far as the marv, layabout, NT scum team? Marv probably rolled scum. In my notes on him, I have that the first thing he did this game was push a BM policy lynch. As much as I dislike paying with BM (sorry bro), I despise policy lynching insane players. See any game I've been in. Pushing a policy lynch on someone like him is an excuse not to scum hunt, and he goes on my naughty list. In addition to that, he pushed a case on l10f based on two posts. Seriously? He's not here, that doesn't make him scum. Most of the argument against layabout comes from his "hard defense" of Katina. That's not a hard defense at all. Saying a rather good player is moderately intelligent and shouldn't be lynch so early in the game is just good play. Nova_Tera reacted rather poorly to kenpachi's case against him, which struck me as scummy. Not enough to lynch him quite yet, but eough that I would keep my eye on him. Of the three, I would most like to lynch Marv.
Gold star to JDub for being the first person to call me out for not posting here in two or three days. Another person I find scummy is grush, who claimed that he called out Katina and Sinani for being scum during day 1. Postmortem bus? Wut? Also, fuck you, Panera Bread. I want more than 30 minutes of internet during my lunch. + Show Spoiler +Turkey sandwich and french onion soup today, very tasty.
Okay first off, you blame marvellosity(the player I think is the least likely scum of those 3) for policy lynching. Layabout STARTED the policy lynch after saying policy lynches are bad to save his scum buddy katina(who he defended hard), which would of all worked out if katina didn't get modkiled.
Yeah I did claim both of them day 1 it wasn't post day1, however Katina was just a random vote but sinani206 was legit. I do see how you want to lynch the person who claimed both of his buddies.
So the 3 remaining scum are:
Layabout
ghost_403
???
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@marv: Stating someone is not posting in game is not the same as calling them scum for not posting in the game. That's why JDub got a star. Jealous?
@grush: It was very convenient. I think the better way to look at this is "he was gone, now he's contributing", but to each his own. And if you think there's no way that you called out your scum buddies on Day 1, you clearly haven't read TLM LIII.
Pointing out people are scummy isn't the same as telling us why. If you had piped up and said "This is why this person is scum", I would give you townie credit for that. You didn't. You randomly voted for her, took it back and said it was a mistake. Now, here you are on Day 2 claiming it was all your idea. It wasn't.
Also, chainsaw much?
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On May 07 2012 02:10 ghost_403 wrote:
@marv: Stating someone is not posting in game is not the same as calling them scum for not posting in the game. That's why JDub got a star. Jealous?
Where did I call him scum? I called him out for not posting much and what he did post was mainly fluff.
Didn't read the thread lol ghost eh?
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@marv: I have a confession: I can't actually read.
![[image loading]](http://www.pbfingers.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/dog-on-internet_thumb.jpg) Pictured above: ghost_403
Alright, I definitely remembered that post against l10f being more aggressive than it actually is. My bad.
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On May 07 2012 01:08 ghost_403 wrote:
Most of the argument against layabout comes from his "hard defense" of Katina. That's not a hard defense at all. Saying a rather good player is moderately intelligent and shouldn't be lynch so early in the game is just good play.
On May 07 2012 01:34 ghost_403 wrote:Whoah. Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 05:43 layabout wrote:Katina few posts have been critical of the disruptive play at the beginning, and acted to stamp out the bad. On May 03 2012 08:00 Katina wrote:On May 03 2012 07:22 SomethingAwesome wrote:On May 03 2012 07:18 blubbdavid wrote:
Haha, we have two scumslips already.
Maybe you don't know but the role PM's for vanilla townie were sent in normal font. modkill for role PM shit? idk how to answer this without breaking rules.. you are scum... all townies will know this -mattchew You are pretty quick be calling people scum Katina Implies that the "blub scumslip affair" is stupid (it was) by implying that the accusations are rather hastily made (which further implies that they are poorly thought out) On May 03 2012 08:11 Katina wrote:On May 03 2012 08:02 Blazinghand wrote:On May 03 2012 08:00 Katina wrote:On May 03 2012 07:22 SomethingAwesome wrote:On May 03 2012 07:18 blubbdavid wrote:
Haha, we have two scumslips already.
Maybe you don't know but the role PM's for vanilla townie were sent in normal font. modkill for role PM shit? idk how to answer this without breaking rules.. you are scum... all townies will know this -mattchew You are pretty quick be calling people scum Is that your whole contribution to the thread? Please, so overwhelming! Stop contributing so much! I am being sarcastic because this sentence alone that is vaguely, VAGUELY criticizering SA is far less than he has done all game for town. Game just started honey. You are so quick to run to his defense... katina points out that BH is being a big drama queen. On May 03 2012 08:32 Katina wrote:On May 03 2012 08:15 Blazinghand wrote:On May 03 2012 08:14 blubbdavid wrote:
Btw, I sense some kind of BlazingKenpachi party. Didn't work out so great in Aperture Mafia. On May 03 2012 08:11 Katina wrote:On May 03 2012 08:02 Blazinghand wrote:On May 03 2012 08:00 Katina wrote:On May 03 2012 07:22 SomethingAwesome wrote:On May 03 2012 07:18 blubbdavid wrote:
Haha, we have two scumslips already.
Maybe you don't know but the role PM's for vanilla townie were sent in normal font. modkill for role PM shit? idk how to answer this without breaking rules.. you are scum... all townies will know this -mattchew You are pretty quick be calling people scum Is that your whole contribution to the thread? Please, so overwhelming! Stop contributing so much! I am being sarcastic because this sentence alone that is vaguely, VAGUELY criticizering SA is far less than he has done all game for town. Game just started honey. You are so quick to run to his defense... You're still not contributing, and being indirect. You're scum. ##unvote
##vote: Katinacome at me bro Not contributing? The game started a couple hours ago.... There hasn't been time. Indirect? Last I checked I was pretty direct with SA. Katina points out that the game is hours old and that there has not been time to contribute in response to BH's vote on her for not contributing. On May 04 2012 05:05 Katina wrote:On May 04 2012 04:15 grush57 wrote:On May 04 2012 03:39 blubbdavid wrote:
I am still waiting for grush to be useful. But going through his filter in other games, my hopes will be smited.
Palmar looks like a good lynch candidate too, because he 1) isn't townielike, 2) isn't making much sense 3) voted for me without reasoning.
I assume we still have 24h+ for voting? Common atleast my useless posts are funny unlike yours. Plus, you didn't understand the situation of that game I played(I'm the same role this game too). Anyways, I'm not sure what to make of the last 3 pages. It is full of useless posts and spam and Bill Murray didn't even start yet. Several posts saying nothing except that "I'm town, trust me i gotta go.... eat?" (Like this post except im not hungry atm :D) For my reasoning of Katina vote, the game just started and blazinghand was accusing Katina for his scumminess, and I agreed so I voted for him, plus I wanted to get the ball rolling. Granted, I realize now this was a dumbshit move that was scummy,and that is my horrible reasoning for it. If you don't like it, Sorry. I would vote you blubbdavid, but I have enough people witchhunting me now.(And I didn't even rage on ladder how unlucky am I?) Though, I could just filter and quote everything and that would get the job done. I like that. BH throws around empty accusations and you jump right on board with this. Looks like a case of something called "Sheeping" Don't worry, it's curable! BM has been not been his usual posting self lately. He likes to lurk when he is Mafia. He made a few brief posts early on then disappeared into La La land. So that is something to keep an eye on. I don't like the whole idea of all the vote switching that has been going on here. It's not helpful to the town and brings nothing but confusion and chaos to everyone else. I know it's only day one but at least try to have more than one sentence before getting voting happy. Criticises grush for sheeping a baseless vote. Points out how destructive the "lets all vote for no real reason" is and tells the perpetrators to stop. If Katrina does anything suspicious it is the way in which she puts attention on BM. She tells us that he tend to lurk when he is mafia that he posted earlier and is now lurking. He isn't lurking at the moment. Lurking is playing passively, posting infrequently or posting with consistently low content. BM is inactive in this game since these are his only posts: + Show Spoiler +On May 03 2012 06:46 Bill Murray wrote:
I will extend the day and shorten the next night by one hour. Good luck and have fun.
Nobody died yet.
But don't worry.
what On May 03 2012 06:46 Bill Murray wrote:
extended days?!
hurray! Both of which of from the very beginning of the game I honestly can't make heads or tails of this post. Take a close look at it. Is he accusing or defending Katina in this post? Does he find her actions scummy or townie? Can you tell me, because I sure can't figure it out. Instead, it's just a compilations of Katina posts with his commentary on what they say without actually saying anything. And he ends the post with we should lynch BM. Why? I have no idea. I do not like this post.
Ghost, you basically answered your own question before you even asked it...
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On May 06 2012 08:52 PaqMan wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2012 00:52 layabout wrote:On May 05 2012 11:17 PaqMan wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On May 05 2012 05:43 layabout wrote:Katina few posts have been critical of the disruptive play at the beginning, and acted to stamp out the bad. Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 08:00 Katina wrote:On May 03 2012 07:22 SomethingAwesome wrote:On May 03 2012 07:18 blubbdavid wrote:
Haha, we have two scumslips already.
Maybe you don't know but the role PM's for vanilla townie were sent in normal font. modkill for role PM shit? idk how to answer this without breaking rules.. you are scum... all townies will know this -mattchew You are pretty quick be calling people scum Katina Implies that the "blub scumslip affair" is stupid (it was) by implying that the accusations are rather hastily made (which further implies that they are poorly thought out) Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 08:11 Katina wrote:On May 03 2012 08:02 Blazinghand wrote:On May 03 2012 08:00 Katina wrote:On May 03 2012 07:22 SomethingAwesome wrote:On May 03 2012 07:18 blubbdavid wrote:
Haha, we have two scumslips already.
Maybe you don't know but the role PM's for vanilla townie were sent in normal font. modkill for role PM shit? idk how to answer this without breaking rules.. you are scum... all townies will know this -mattchew You are pretty quick be calling people scum Is that your whole contribution to the thread? Please, so overwhelming! Stop contributing so much! I am being sarcastic because this sentence alone that is vaguely, VAGUELY criticizering SA is far less than he has done all game for town. Game just started honey. You are so quick to run to his defense... katina points out that BH is being a big drama queen. Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 08:32 Katina wrote:On May 03 2012 08:15 Blazinghand wrote:On May 03 2012 08:14 blubbdavid wrote:
Btw, I sense some kind of BlazingKenpachi party. Didn't work out so great in Aperture Mafia. On May 03 2012 08:11 Katina wrote:On May 03 2012 08:02 Blazinghand wrote:On May 03 2012 08:00 Katina wrote:On May 03 2012 07:22 SomethingAwesome wrote:On May 03 2012 07:18 blubbdavid wrote:
Haha, we have two scumslips already.
Maybe you don't know but the role PM's for vanilla townie were sent in normal font. modkill for role PM shit? idk how to answer this without breaking rules.. you are scum... all townies will know this -mattchew You are pretty quick be calling people scum Is that your whole contribution to the thread? Please, so overwhelming! Stop contributing so much! I am being sarcastic because this sentence alone that is vaguely, VAGUELY criticizering SA is far less than he has done all game for town. Game just started honey. You are so quick to run to his defense... You're still not contributing, and being indirect. You're scum. ##unvote
##vote: Katinacome at me bro Not contributing? The game started a couple hours ago.... There hasn't been time. Indirect? Last I checked I was pretty direct with SA. Katina points out that the game is hours old and that there has not been time to contribute in response to BH's vote on her for not contributing. Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 05:05 Katina wrote:On May 04 2012 04:15 grush57 wrote:On May 04 2012 03:39 blubbdavid wrote:
I am still waiting for grush to be useful. But going through his filter in other games, my hopes will be smited.
Palmar looks like a good lynch candidate too, because he 1) isn't townielike, 2) isn't making much sense 3) voted for me without reasoning.
I assume we still have 24h+ for voting? Common atleast my useless posts are funny unlike yours. Plus, you didn't understand the situation of that game I played(I'm the same role this game too). Anyways, I'm not sure what to make of the last 3 pages. It is full of useless posts and spam and Bill Murray didn't even start yet. Several posts saying nothing except that "I'm town, trust me i gotta go.... eat?" (Like this post except im not hungry atm :D) For my reasoning of Katina vote, the game just started and blazinghand was accusing Katina for his scumminess, and I agreed so I voted for him, plus I wanted to get the ball rolling. Granted, I realize now this was a dumbshit move that was scummy,and that is my horrible reasoning for it. If you don't like it, Sorry. I would vote you blubbdavid, but I have enough people witchhunting me now.(And I didn't even rage on ladder how unlucky am I?) Though, I could just filter and quote everything and that would get the job done. I like that. BH throws around empty accusations and you jump right on board with this. Looks like a case of something called "Sheeping" Don't worry, it's curable! BM has been not been his usual posting self lately. He likes to lurk when he is Mafia. He made a few brief posts early on then disappeared into La La land. So that is something to keep an eye on. I don't like the whole idea of all the vote switching that has been going on here. It's not helpful to the town and brings nothing but confusion and chaos to everyone else. I know it's only day one but at least try to have more than one sentence before getting voting happy. Criticises grush for sheeping a baseless vote. Points out how destructive the "lets all vote for no real reason" is and tells the perpetrators to stop. If Katrina does anything suspicious it is the way in which she puts attention on BM. She tells us that he tend to lurk when he is mafia that he posted earlier and is now lurking. He isn't lurking at the moment. Lurking is playing passively, posting infrequently or posting with consistently low content. BM is inactive in this game since these are his only posts: + Show Spoiler +On May 03 2012 06:46 Bill Murray wrote:
I will extend the day and shorten the next night by one hour. Good luck and have fun.
Nobody died yet.
But don't worry.
what and yet.... On May 03 2012 06:46 Bill Murray wrote:
extended days?!
hurray! Both of which of from the very beginning of the game Just curious, but what was the point of that post layabout? Nobody was discussing her so it seemed kind of random for you to make that analysis. On May 05 2012 05:15 slOosh wrote:On May 05 2012 05:10 layabout wrote:Katina has made posts indicative of intelligence. I do not think we should lynch katina. Do other people think that this is BS? On May 05 2012 04:46 SomethingAwesome wrote:
I don't really like layabout much. His inconsistency and lacking response to why his policy lynch is now a good option compared to earlier. The generic first post as pointed out by myself and better pointed out by DoYouHas. If he want to kill us why not vote us instead of steering town towards a werd policy lynch on BM.
(I'm not defending BM. Don't care if he live or die so far)
##Vote Layabout
//Dirk Why is SA's post BS? And where does katina make posts indicative of intelligence and how does it show a town alignment? discussion of katina: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=14591170http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=14591786http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=14591832http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=14592117My post doesn't say why i thought she was town in fact i just wanted to say that her posts made sense and i didn't want to kill somebody that was making sense when there were so many players that weren't making sense or even playing the game.
And:
+ Show Spoiler +It's odd that no matter how many times layabout explained his post, people keep bringing it up as something to convict him with. + Show Spoiler +I don't think laya is scum, and I think scum are trying to subtly push for his lynch.
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On May 07 2012 02:10 ghost_403 wrote:
@marv: Stating someone is not posting in game is not the same as calling them scum for not posting in the game. That's why JDub got a star. Jealous?
@grush: It was very convenient. I think the better way to look at this is "he was gone, now he's contributing", but to each his own. And if you think there's no way that you called out your scum buddies on Day 1, you clearly haven't read TLM LIII.
Pointing out people are scummy isn't the same as telling us why. If you had piped up and said "This is why this person is scum", I would give you townie credit for that. You didn't. You randomly voted for her, took it back and said it was a mistake. Now, here you are on Day 2 claiming it was all your idea. It wasn't.
Also, chainsaw much?
How am I claiming it was my idea. I said I Randomly voted her!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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On May 06 2012 06:18 Sinensis wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2012 05:44 PaqMan wrote:I don't like BlackRaven's posting. He has only two posts that are of any sort of significance. + Show Spoiler [BR's two significant posts] +On May 04 2012 03:51 BlackRaven wrote:Cool, lets's go Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 02:47 DoYouHas wrote:
Palmar's confrontational and empty 1 liners make it impossible to get a read on him. (anti-town) He is shutting down conversation instead of fostering it. (anti-town) I have no interest in keeping someone around who I won't be able to get a handle on and who I think is hurting the town.
##Vote: Palmar Firstly, confrontational and empty is an oxymoron in Mafia. Confrontation brings discussion. Discussion good. Discussion not make posts empty. Secondly, not having a read on someone does not make him anti-town. It makes him just another player in the game. It sure as hell isn't a reason to vote him. Thirdly.....well see the first point about your second one. He got you talking didn't he? :3 All this post achieves is soft-defending Palmar and nothing moreOn May 04 2012 03:53 BlackRaven wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 03:47 DoYouHas wrote:On May 04 2012 03:42 BlackRaven wrote:On May 04 2012 03:30 DoYouHas wrote:
Oh, and btw. You are defending Palmar by attacking the person going after him. You discredit me and Palmar no longer has a need to respond. This is wrong - D How is fitting the definition of a chainsaw defense wrong? If a player ever uses a chainsaw defence as an actual defence they are scum there is no leeway about it and its bad play all around. People should never use other peoples arguments to make them appear either townie or scum its just bad play and they deserve to be lynched if they do so. Me and Hassy both still expect things from Palmar at some stage we just both dislike you at the moment. -D This entire post is just an altercation with DYH and contributes nothing of value except for the fact that BR doesn't like DYH. BR's entire filter literally contains nothing more than pointless one-liners. The only thing he's done is ask other people questions and make comments to the side that add no value to discussion. He doesn't make any scumreads nor does he form serious opinions on people. And his D1 vote: On May 05 2012 03:22 BlackRaven wrote:
You know I liked layabout at the start but now he is probably going to cause more harm than if I was a medic...
##Vote: layabout
-D
goes without any sort of good explanation besides "I like him, now I don't." I see him as a possible lynch candidate if he doesn't pick it up and he's earned my FoS I don't like basing decisions on meta, but I can say having played with BlackRaven in the past... lots of confrontational 1 liners is par for the course for his town play. I am null on him at the moment and I believe there are better targets at the moment.
Sinensis I'd like to see your reads.
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On May 07 2012 02:31 PaqMan wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2012 06:18 Sinensis wrote:On May 06 2012 05:44 PaqMan wrote:I don't like BlackRaven's posting. He has only two posts that are of any sort of significance. + Show Spoiler [BR's two significant posts] +On May 04 2012 03:51 BlackRaven wrote:Cool, lets's go Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 02:47 DoYouHas wrote:
Palmar's confrontational and empty 1 liners make it impossible to get a read on him. (anti-town) He is shutting down conversation instead of fostering it. (anti-town) I have no interest in keeping someone around who I won't be able to get a handle on and who I think is hurting the town.
##Vote: Palmar Firstly, confrontational and empty is an oxymoron in Mafia. Confrontation brings discussion. Discussion good. Discussion not make posts empty. Secondly, not having a read on someone does not make him anti-town. It makes him just another player in the game. It sure as hell isn't a reason to vote him. Thirdly.....well see the first point about your second one. He got you talking didn't he? :3 All this post achieves is soft-defending Palmar and nothing moreOn May 04 2012 03:53 BlackRaven wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 03:47 DoYouHas wrote:On May 04 2012 03:42 BlackRaven wrote:On May 04 2012 03:30 DoYouHas wrote:
Oh, and btw. You are defending Palmar by attacking the person going after him. You discredit me and Palmar no longer has a need to respond. This is wrong - D How is fitting the definition of a chainsaw defense wrong? If a player ever uses a chainsaw defence as an actual defence they are scum there is no leeway about it and its bad play all around. People should never use other peoples arguments to make them appear either townie or scum its just bad play and they deserve to be lynched if they do so. Me and Hassy both still expect things from Palmar at some stage we just both dislike you at the moment. -D This entire post is just an altercation with DYH and contributes nothing of value except for the fact that BR doesn't like DYH. BR's entire filter literally contains nothing more than pointless one-liners. The only thing he's done is ask other people questions and make comments to the side that add no value to discussion. He doesn't make any scumreads nor does he form serious opinions on people. And his D1 vote: On May 05 2012 03:22 BlackRaven wrote:
You know I liked layabout at the start but now he is probably going to cause more harm than if I was a medic...
##Vote: layabout
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goes without any sort of good explanation besides "I like him, now I don't." I see him as a possible lynch candidate if he doesn't pick it up and he's earned my FoS I don't like basing decisions on meta, but I can say having played with BlackRaven in the past... lots of confrontational 1 liners is par for the course for his town play. I am null on him at the moment and I believe there are better targets at the moment. Sinensis I'd like to see your reads.
Paqman I'd like to see your recent reads, now that both SlooSh and BlackRaven have flipped town, do you have any other reads that you would like to share? I doubt you would be actively against these two and then kill them as scum, but that is WIFOM. I know your against a layabout lynch, what are your thoughts on NT and Marv?
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On May 06 2012 16:14 l10f wrote:Just read through all of the filters.
Don't really have anyone looking too incriminating but I take back my suspicions on layabout. I'm satisfied with how he defended so far. I also think grush is town based on katina's posts before he died. Blazinghand is confirmed now with his shot? ghost_403 hasn't said a thing since this + Show Spoiler +On May 04 2012 00:20 ghost_403 wrote:Sinesis rolled scum. Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 12:23 Sinensis wrote:On May 03 2012 09:42 grush57 wrote:
##vote: Katina SWEET A BANDWAGON IS FORMING! I think I'll hop on it without explaining myself! On May 03 2012 10:18 grush57 wrote:
Alright awesome we know the aggressive people now.
##unvote Katina NEVERMIND, they're onto me! ##vote: grush57 I was not expecting to have a vote so early this game with all the people. This post screams "I want to look useful to the town without actually thinking about what's going on." Good Day 1 lynch. ##vote sinesis and his own post can apply to himself as well. I'll put my vote on him for now, and reassess later in the day.
Note:bold. "I've looked into everyone and no one's scummy."
Now that ghost is back you can make your reassessment. I don't see how you could have possibly looked through everyone's filter and not find anything scummy besides ghost's lack of posting.
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disclaimer: May contain repition of earlier points because some people cannot or choose not to read
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=14611146
ghost that post was in responses to a question, i already said that in this post
I pushed a policy lynch on BM because when you have nothing to go on in the thread and very little time left you either no-lynch or kill a lurker. Both of these moves are last resorts that you should not set out to do. At the start of the day you should not be pushing either a no-lynch or a policy lynch but when the day is fruitless, they become valid options. I have already explained why i wanted to kill him specifically. That is all there was to to it.
Regarding this
BH is criticising a "hard defense of Katina" which i have already adressed.
Show nested quote +On May 06 2012 09:23 layabout wrote:
@Mementoss i thought we should lynch Palmar over "any other lurker" because he showed basically no interest in the lynch at all. Palmar is lazy as scum but when he town he usually bothers to do ... "stuff". This is actually the reason I shot Palmar-- he wasn't acting like the typical active town Palmar. But why doesn't layabout write this right away? It seems to me that a TOWN layabout would try to explain himself before daybreak... after all, he'd be worried about being shot, right? See, this is what happened: layabout wanted to set up for a Palmar push D2. Palmar was acting weird for a town Palmar, and Layabout wanted to capitalize that by getting him lynched D2 based on Meta. This is scummy. In fact, this is scummy enough that we should lynch layabout.
BH is also criticising me for saying that we should kill the player that he decided to shoot.
BH is calling me scummy for saying that we should kill a scummy player. Not only is this contrived, but he is calling me scum for doing what we should all be doing as town.
On May 06 2012 08:46 johnnywup wrote:
I think it is condemning, scum over-reacts to things like that (at least i think, ive never actually played scum). Of course laya didn't know kat would be modkilled, which is why it is condemning. If we didn't know kat's flip, it wouldn't be bad for either of them. It's just a townie pushing his reads on another person he thinks is townie, right? Since kat flipped, no. I don't know, the flip makes me think laya is more scummy.
At first i dismissed this point.
Who is more likely to know if one of the mafia team is about to be modkilled?
Members of the mafia team who can communicate privately and should know if their team mate is there (no)
Members of town who can only see the thread and will have no idea who is watching the thread (yes)
I don't see how me not knowing that katina would be modkilled implicates me in any way.
As to me over-reacting, i do this because i have been mislynched on day 1 twice by 5 or 6 players when town had votes spread all over the place. In game of thrones mafia and in bastard mafia. It is in the interest's of every player to defend themselves and doing so is not scummy.
have i missed anything?
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+ Show Spoiler [Nova_Terra] +On May 05 2012 00:16 Nova_Terra wrote:
2. Just wrong, I can have scumreads that i do not feel should be posted until i can get more infos to back them up. as i do.
He's withholding his scumreads for the reason "until i can get more infors to back them up." 6 hours later.... On May 05 2012 06:00 Nova_Terra wrote:
In accordance with popular demand, i will share my top scumread which is currently Mementoss (not based on OMGUS)
mementoss starts off suggesting to policy lynch two people, etc. Makes a few totally unneccessary 1 liners, and then when he is called out on it he goes NO WAIT i has reason, then decided to teach us, which just came off freaking weird.
Then he goes aggressive on layabout, throwing suspicion while not doing much of anything, then joins the Grush did something scummy this looks really bad group. not original. then after blazing notes something on me he joins in that too, and makes remarks in an unsure way, seeming to want to be able to backtrack if necessary. then, when called out on it, he goes into defensive aggression mode and suddenly gains massive confidence which hadnt been in his play before.
Overall
1liners
Enlightens us on 1 liners
throws suspicion while not doing much at all
joins scummy bandwagon
seems unsure
agrees with an Oh i noticed the same thing!
makes arguments based on my meta, which is questionable entirely based on the fact that i never play this lurky, town or scum
randomly gets massively confident, as opposed to his earlier play, its as if someone told him to be more sure
and so ##Vote: Mementoss
A brutally weak case against MT that was probably thrown together in 3 minutes. He said he withheld his scumreads to get more info, and 6 hours later that's all he comes up with. That was his ONLY OPINION, his ONLY SCUMREAD this whole game. The rest of his filter consists of useless one-liners.
I'd be okay with lynching him today.
On Marvel:
I retract the statement I made of him earlier because I realize that he's playing exactly to his town meta (town meta's not a good reason ikno but work with me here.)
He start's off slow D1 and D2 but the pace is greatly increased as late-game rolls around. I don't think a lynch on him today would be too wise. I want to see him pick up the pace and start making the quality cases that I read from LIII.
And now the case:
+ Show Spoiler +On May 05 2012 05:53 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 05:49 layabout wrote:
Look how few votes the candidate have
Look how weak the cases are
Look how easily the 5 player scumteam could swing the vote
See how unlikely we are to hit mafia
Lynch a player that will be anti town either way.
Vote BillMurray Sold, I don't have a solid scumread on anyone and BM is just useless and anti-town no matter his alignment. Which is taking the horrendously lazy way out. he then gives us this: On May 05 2012 19:53 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 15:12 DoYouHas wrote:
There is no question in my mind that Palmar should be the next one on the chopping block. It is like he is trolling the town, waiting to see just how much he can get away with before we lynch him. His posts are a joke, he has been lurking in spite of being called out numerous times, and he tops it all off with a ninja vote onto a townie bandwagon. Unless something drastic changes, I want Palmar dead tomorrow. I'm down with this, but I also want to look at layabout as he seems to have a few people poking him. But a few hours later he completely drops layabout and makes a (very) small post calling out I10f + Show Spoiler [seen here] +On May 06 2012 03:48 marvellosity wrote:Sup l10f. Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 09:06 l10f wrote:Hey guys, I'm town this game ^____________^ On May 03 2012 08:39 Katina wrote:
Mr. Blazinghand I say this once and once only. I'm not mafia. Point your Blazinghand at someone who actually deserves it. Who do you think actually deserves it then? Not many people have posted yet, not too many people to blame. You've just stood out among the few~ Doesn't mean you're mafia, every discussion helps though! Let's kinda point some fingers... but not call someone scummy at the same time. Let's discuss things, yay! Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 13:00 l10f wrote:
Sorry guys, it was last day of class and I was very busy!
Grush suspected both Katina and sinani, and DoYouHas had a strong case on Katina as well.
Layabout defending Katina and convinced the town to vote for BM instead. I suspect him of being scum. The remaining two scums are probably also in the BM bandwagon near the middle. Fluffy apology. Summary summary summary. Fingerpointing followed by some nice unprovable speculation about the BM lynch. Anything concrete to say? Which also strikes me as odd because he doesn't mention I10f again.
Marv's contributing and there's better options on the table right now.
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I'm beginnging to like you Lay. Now find me scum! =)
What do you think about blubb? I think he is fishy...
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I'm going to be putting my vote on NT for now.
##Vote Nova_Terra
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Oh yeah Marvel start contributing moar. "I don't have a scumread" isn't good enough. There's 19 people here, I don't see how you couldn't have an FoS on someone unless you're just refusing to scumhunt.
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On May 07 2012 03:10 SomethingAwesome wrote:
I'm beginnging to like you Lay. Now find me scum! =)
What do you think about blubb? I think he is fishy...
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On May 06 2012 19:50 blubbdavid wrote:I see, Blazinghand is switching cases so it looks like he doesn't sheep l10f. Well, jdup has made a good post regarding layabout's behaviour Show nested quote +On May 06 2012 08:46 johnnywup wrote:
I think it is condemning, scum over-reacts to things like that (at least i think, ive never actually played scum). Of course laya didn't know kat would be modkilled, which is why it is condemning. If we didn't know kat's flip, it wouldn't be bad for either of them. It's just a townie pushing his reads on another person he thinks is townie, right? Since kat flipped, no. I don't know, the flip makes me think laya is more scummy. It took scum by surprise that Kat was modkilled.
This is a strange thing to assert when as a townie you do not know who scum are and if they thought that Katina was coming back or not.
Also when he votes for me he emphasises that it is to get me to answer his question.
On May 06 2012 20:32 blubbdavid wrote:layabout is scum. The question is: why would scum push BM? layabout was pushing BM so hard it was not even funny. Ok: layabaout, why were you so fucking desperate in pushing BM? till then, ##vote layaboutShow nested quote +On May 06 2012 19:51 Blazinghand wrote:On May 06 2012 19:50 blubbdavid wrote:
I see, Blazinghand is switching cases so it looks like he doesn't sheep l10f. you wanna mess + Show Spoiler +
He begins by saying that i am scum. If he believes this then surely that should be the reason for his vote. By saying that he wants a response he gives himself a way to back out of pushing me. If he truly believes that i am scum then he would have no reason to do this.
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Do I truly believe that you are scum? No. Is there a high possibility that you are scum? Yes. And you dodged my question by writing three lines of that say all the same thing.
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