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phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
We're playing in a setup derived from C9++. Those normally have max 3 scum. Since VE is dead, that leaves 2. An SK at this point looks very unlikely. As noone has claimed to have been roleblocked, a jailor/roleblocker seems unlikely, therefor the SK's shot would have had to overlap with the mafia kp every single night. Very unlikely. Thus, probably 5 townies vs 2 scum at this point. | ||
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phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
On April 27 2012 10:55 Ace wrote: Ok let me try this again. BL shows up "defending" Mr.Zentor's lynch long before it happens. However, he never talks about why Zentor must be Town. I don't see it in any of his posts so if they are there show me. It's literally "I dont think a Townie would do this" which isn't a real defense. If he REALLY thinks Zentor is innocent why would he not destroy any of the posts against him? He didn't. This is why I said he comes off as Scum knowing Zentor is innocent ahead of time. He looks like he's defending Zentor but he really isn't. The second bolded doesn't make him Town. "Looking for Scum" is subjective as even Scum can look for Scum. I don't think you are looking at the big picture here. Once again, look at the chain of events the way they went down. Once you showed up with a post on VE, BL shows up with a 19 minutes later with a post calling out a Scum team of VE, Forumite and phagga. His next post after that is calling out Sbrubbles as Scum. He even tries to throw me in there and says me and Sbrubbles must be talking in QT. That's 5 players in not even a quarter of a day that he calls out before Zentor is even flipped and you want to believe he was actually Scum hunting. Seriously this is very simple: If he truly believed Zentor was Town and he is also Town then why would he focus his efforts on calling out 5 other players instead of saving Zentor? He had ample time. He also should know that calling 5 players out isn't going to lead to all of them voting for whoever he thinks is Scum. This was a feigned attempt to look like he was defending a player and attempting to find Scum when he did neither. From a logical point of view, you are right. The problem is that Bluelightz behaviour can seldom be logically explained. I said it before, the amount of effort he put in this game looks rather townie. However, I will not deny that if you ignore the player, and just look at the text, then it looks scummy. TL Mafia Vets always say to not rest cases on meta alone. I also remember Palmar saying in a game that one should always look at a post, not at the poster. It does not matter who says something, but only what is said and how. If I look at Bluelightz posts that way, then yes, I would want to lynch him. However, as soon as I remember myself that it's Bluelightz posting them, I get my doubts again. Additionaly, if I had to make a list with which townies I would like to go to LYLO, then Bluelightz would be pretty much at the bottom of that list. However, we should first try to not get to lylo at all by lynching all the bad guys first. I'm still in the process of rereading the thread and the filters. More to come. | ||
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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
On May 01 2012 21:37 phagga wrote: From a logical point of view, you are right. The problem is that Bluelightz behaviour can seldom be logically explained. I said it before, the amount of effort he put in this game looks rather townie. However, I will not deny that if you ignore the player, and just look at the text, then it looks scummy. TL Mafia Vets always say to not rest cases on meta alone. I also remember Palmar saying in a game that one should always look at a post, not at the poster. It does not matter who says something, but only what is said and how. If I look at Bluelightz posts that way, then yes, I would want to lynch him. However, as soon as I remember myself that it's Bluelightz posting them, I get my doubts again. Additionaly, if I had to make a list with which townies I would like to go to LYLO, then Bluelightz would be pretty much at the bottom of that list. However, we should first try to not get to lylo at all by lynching all the bad guys first. I'm still in the process of rereading the thread and the filters. More to come. Horrible Post. Cant you fucking use one sentence to say that you always think my post's are scummy but then its fucking bluelightz. | ||
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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
(Please ask though if you want the reasons for my doubts) Out of the remaining People, I'm fairly sure that Me,Ace, and prplhz are town. My read on phagga is that he is town but I still have my doubts on him. Just saying but I'm rethinking brubbles for lynching. | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
I'm glad you "have your doubts" about me being scum, seeing as the only case anyone has made against me is prplhz's "herp derp he's scum guys," and he hasnt even mentioned any of my answers. Also where the fuck is forumite? Does he usually go missing for days at a time with no explanation like this? | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On May 02 2012 01:52 strongandbig wrote: Bluelightz, what is your opinion of the case Snarfs made agains prplhz and ace? It was extremely compelling to me, but I notice that you have both of them in your "probably town" list. That's very odd to me. I'm glad you "have your doubts" about me being scum, seeing as the only case anyone has made against me is prplhz's "herp derp he's scum guys," and he hasnt even mentioned any of my answers. Also where the fuck is forumite? Does he usually go missing for days at a time with no explanation like this? Still here. I usually don´t do much at night, and then I was tired and went to sleep. S&B, what do you think about BL? | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
prphlz Forumite strongandbig Ace Bluelightz Sbrubbles phagga 6 of us have posted (albeit low) but at least we know there's some activity. I also think it's a 3 person Scum team setup as I've never seen a 2 man setup in a 13 player game. | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On May 02 2012 02:45 Forumite wrote: Still here. I usually don´t do much at night, and then I was tired and went to sleep. S&B, what do you think about BL? Nevermind about BL, I don´t want to know right now. D1 lynch - N1 scumkill - SamuelLJackson D2 lynch - MrZentor N2 snarfkill - VisceraEyes N2 scumkill - Radfield D3 lynch - Marvellosity N3 scumkill - snarfs | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
##Unvote strongandbig ##Vote phagga | ||
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Sbrubbles
Brazil5776 Posts
I don't know what to think of bluelightz. I don't like his posting style, but I don't have a scum read on him. I also can't read Forumite, so I have them both as null. Of the people being talked about here, I think I'd go for a prplzh lynch, based mostly on Snarf's case, but I'm really unsure. His strongandbig push, his attitude D3, his unvote all felt strange to me. Phagga has promised "more to come" and prhplz has just voted him, so I'll wait for them to make their arguments to try to make a better decision. I'm studying right now, but I'll be reading the thread sporadically. Tonight I'll have more time to post. | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
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phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
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phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
And what's the other part? You have not mentioned me a single time in your filter except in a question to someone else. I would really like to know why I'm suddenly getting your vote without any explanation. @prplhz: This is the second time that you vote someone without explanation, this time you're not even sheeping. Care to explain why? Also, Since you voted s&b, he only posted two things: + Show Spoiler + On May 02 2012 01:52 strongandbig wrote: Bluelightz, what is your opinion of the case Snarfs made agains prplhz and ace? It was extremely compelling to me, but I notice that you have both of them in your "probably town" list. That's very odd to me. I'm glad you "have your doubts" about me being scum, seeing as the only case anyone has made against me is prplhz's "herp derp he's scum guys," and he hasnt even mentioned any of my answers. Also where the fuck is forumite? Does he usually go missing for days at a time with no explanation like this? On May 02 2012 01:53 strongandbig wrote: Ebwop the cases he made against prp and ace, we shouldn't necessarily assume that if one is right or wrong then the other one is as well. What exactly in these two posts make you think that he is no longer scum? | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On May 02 2012 06:45 strongandbig wrote: Alright I'm just really fucking confused right now. Where did the votes on Phagga come from? I'm by no means convinced that he's town but as far as I can remember no one has even made a real case on him... Forumite can you explain to me why you think Phagga is scummier than Prplhz or Bluelightz? Phagga talks about Sbrubbles all the time, mostly to soft-defend him, that he doesn´t play any different from when they played in the same game earlier. Sbrubbles mentiones Phagga twice, first time ever is an hour before the Marv-lynch. I don´t want to lynch prplhz and BL is off my radar for today. | ||
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