|
On May 03 2012 12:40 Mattchew wrote:
johnny, have you ever played a game where if # of scum = # of town scum didn't win?
no, but i've never played a game where #of scum= #of town either
and I love how you completely ignore Sentinel in all of your reasoning.
i can't find reasons elsewhere? I'll look into that just for you though.
by voting BM you are saying you believe Sent and are willing the bet the entire game on a scum read on the craziest player in the game.
Hm, yeah I would. But it's not completely up to me, others have to agree. I noticed that there hasn't been a big bandwagon to lynch BM right as the day started, which makes me feel like BM is indeed scum. Let's call it the same gut feeling that told me ottox was town
Do you think that I would have pushed BM's lynch (and push away from a VE lynch) as hard as I did day 1 if he was my teammate?
Yes, because he's BM, and he's been able to get away with shit "just because he's BM", as you so eloquently put it at the beginning of the game (funny how that statement can hurt you later on huh?). So you thought he wouldn't get lynched for the same reasons you said that we should policy lynch him for.
You are literally taking the laziest way out with this situation
It's also the smartest, IMO. if there's facts that people can find and present that heavily incriminate either you or sent, I'd definitely reconsider. But since no one wants to, I think this is the best way to get the best chances of killing the scum. 3/8 players left are scum. So if we throw a dart at a name we still have a decent chance of hitting scum. Killing someone I have a case against and have actively thought is scum is just a plus.
answers in green
|
it's also the smartest, IMO. if there's facts that people can find and present that heavily incriminate either you or sent, I'd definitely reconsider.
How about the fact that sent says he didn't jail anyone night 1 because he had no one else that makes sense for him to fake claim jailing
Hm, yeah I would. But it's not completely up to me, others have to agree. I noticed that there hasn't been a big bandwagon to lynch BM right as the day started, which makes me feel like BM is indeed scum. Let's call it the same gut feeling that told me ottox was town
Most people hadn't posted before I claimed. This means nothing.
(funny how that statement can hurt you later on huh?).
I fail to see how this hurts me now. Because I wanted to lynch and actively pushed to lynch the person you are now trying to lynch, that makes me scummy? You don't think my pushing of Bill Murray was genuine?
|
Also, I like how you ignore every dead townies opinions, many saying to lynch Sentinel.
Interesting play today johnny, very interesting
|
Also, look back to day 1, remember Gonzaw's plan, that I refused to discuss, does me not wanting to discuss a Vig claim plan make a lot more sense now that you see I'm vig?
|
On May 03 2012 12:09 iGrok wrote:
Scum wins when they outnumber town, or nothing can prevent this.
So this means at 3-3 town can't prevent a townie being lynched, right?
|
Scum were told their wincon is Scum>Town. This is false, as I changed my policy on that after Palmar and Sleeper Cell 2.
The Scum wincon is Scum=Town.
I'm not thinking very straight right this week, because I'm in the middle of finals and my last one is in 9 hours. If you want anything else clarified, ask in the next 1 hour.
|
lol and risen de-lurks to pre-amble iGrok's mod note... looks like scum got nervous their win con wasn't gonna be reached by lynching BM and yelled at iGrok to post
Johnny you realize you are voting with this scum (risen) right?
|
oh, and that makes it lylo today for sure so now anyone voting BM is putting this game PURELY on the read of someone batshit insane and crazy.
|
On May 03 2012 12:59 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +it's also the smartest, IMO. if there's facts that people can find and present that heavily incriminate either you or sent, I'd definitely reconsider. 1.How about the fact that sent says he didn't jail anyone night 1 because he had no one else that makes sense for him to fake claim jailing Show nested quote +Hm, yeah I would. But it's not completely up to me, others have to agree. I noticed that there hasn't been a big bandwagon to lynch BM right as the day started, which makes me feel like BM is indeed scum. Let's call it the same gut feeling that told me ottox was town 2.Most people hadn't posted before I claimed. This means nothing. 3.I fail to see how this hurts me now. Because I wanted to lynch and actively pushed to lynch the person you are now trying to lynch, that makes me scummy? You don't think my pushing of Bill Murray was genuine?
1.I'll let you in on a secret: In the I'm a cop you idiot mafia I accidentally healed someone who wasn't in the game because I was busy, as a doctor. On day 1. So it could happen.
2. Fair enough.
3.The comment was snide. I wasn't serious about it hurting you. I just thought it was cool using your own words against you in a way. And I'm actually not sure if your pushing is genuine. It looks genuine to me but fuck ._. @_@ TBH I'm just as confused as anyone. I have a scum read on BM and I'm pushing it, that's all I really know. Your claim seemed scummy to me so I thought you're scum but now I'm just not sure. I feel BM is scum and that's the one thing I do know. If BM is town we still have a small chance based on my plan. I feel like this is our last chance. I swear BM has to be scum, if he's not I don't even fucking know man.
Pre-edit: I guess we don't have a small chance if BM flips town. I'm gonna really think things through now.
|
basically johnny and paq, you guys have to stop being lazy and really think this decision ALL THE WAY THROUGH, analyzing every party involved
|
On May 03 2012 13:10 Mattchew wrote:
lol and risen de-lurks to pre-amble iGrok's mod note... looks like scum got nervous their win con wasn't gonna be reached by lynching BM and yelled at iGrok to post
Johnny you realize you are voting with this scum (risen) right?
if bm flips goon that makes risen green imo. but i'm gonna have to look through a lot of things before I come to a final decision, since 3:3 is auto scum win i'm gonna have to really think about this.
|
On May 03 2012 13:14 johnnywup wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 13:10 Mattchew wrote:
lol and risen de-lurks to pre-amble iGrok's mod note... looks like scum got nervous their win con wasn't gonna be reached by lynching BM and yelled at iGrok to post
Johnny you realize you are voting with this scum (risen) right? if bm flips goon that makes risen green imo. but i'm gonna have to look through a lot of things before I come to a final decision, since 3:3 is auto scum win i'm gonna have to really think about this.
thank you. I will answer any questions you have for me about any issue, but I think for now its bed time
ps.
+ Show Spoiler +
|
On May 03 2012 13:13 Mattchew wrote:
basically johnny and paq, you guys have to stop being lazy and really think this decision ALL THE WAY THROUGH, analyzing every party involved
I'm aware of that now. I thought we could win based on a good plan but I didn't do the math right or w/e. I was being lazy but I thought we had a good chance of winning if we could execute my plan, which I know now is flawed.
|
On May 03 2012 13:13 Mattchew wrote:
basically johnny and paq, you guys have to stop being lazy and really think this decision ALL THE WAY THROUGH, analyzing every party involved
I'm willing to lynch Risen.
|
|
|
paqman, why risen (who is confirmed GF due to my vig shot) over Sent, who could be goon
|
On May 03 2012 13:18 Mattchew wrote:
paqman, why risen (who is confirmed GF due to my vig shot) over Sent, who could be goon
i want this answered
i gtg to sleep ill be on occasionally throughout tomorrow and all day friday
|
On May 02 2012 09:11 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
If BKEXE is by some chance goon and maybe iGrok didn't count my thing or whatever, he dies and town wins.
If BKEXE is not, then I'm right (as I usually am) and we're down either a bad player or (more likely) one scum.
Risen is definitely scum, I don't know where BM fits into this but I'd drop him down to #8 in that chart of mine, especially since he has absolutely no evidence I'm not JK. I claimed JK because even if Otto does get lynched, we need to find the goon.
Also, when marv died he was talking about me possibly being scum. I wouldn't want to be in purgatory. I want to be regarded as townie so that my reasoning is properly counted. So I claimed. And now all is clear.
Now, my dear friend Risen, I have one last question for you.
Are you the servant, or are you the master?
was aware BKEXE would not flip goon :o
On May 02 2012 09:17 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
BM-Risen-Mystery third member... I'm running out of options here.
8 of us left, 3 scum. 7 minimum left by daylight gives us one last day.
Shit. All my plans banked on Otto being scum.
I can't believe I missed this.
now matt and sent...how is it both of you think risen is scum? I'm guessing one is a bus and one is a genuine thinking Risen is scum. The other possibility is that Risen is town and the scum of the two is misleading town into mislynching a townie and the townie of the two has a bad read.
I'd like to think the townie has a good read, so it's looking possible that Risen is scum, whether you believe Sent or Matt is telling the truth.
|
On May 03 2012 13:25 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 13:18 Mattchew wrote:
paqman, why risen (who is confirmed GF due to my vig shot) over Sent, who could be goon i want this answered i gtg to sleep ill be on occasionally throughout tomorrow and all day friday
Easy. I don't believe your claim.
|
I don't understand how or why, as scum, Sentinel could/would have made the JAIK breadcrumb on D1.
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
