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On April 12 2012 05:18 Coagulation wrote: /sit out coaggg, play in this gameee, it doesn't follow the ban list! | ||
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/in GM!!! MAKE UP THAT SHOT YOU DIDN'T TAKE ON ACE! | ||
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On April 13 2012 09:51 michaelthe wrote: I vote we start with a self-imposed "Accelerated Start". Everyone goto random.org and roll 1-30. You must vote for that person. You can change your vote to some one else but cannot simply unvote. I rolled 23. ##Vote: MrZentor WTF is the point of this? No pressure, no direction, no stance taken by anyone. Hi Mafia. See, that's how to start a game. ##vote: michaelthe | ||
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goddamnit...ok, i'mma go finish watching the heat/bulls game and then come back lol | ||
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On April 13 2012 09:59 GMarshal wrote: GMarshal's campaign: Vote for me because I actually hit scum day 1. Have you ever actually won mayor and then hit scum day one? | ||
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On April 13 2012 10:09 MrZentor wrote: If I am elected, I will let the people decide who I kill via an unofficial poll! Here's my totally not copy pasted speech for Layabout's vote! + Show Spoiler + Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal. Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this. But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate -- we can not consecrate -- we can not hallow -- this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth. can't even put in the effort to write up your own thing. not mayor material imo. ##vote sandroba for captain | ||
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On April 13 2012 12:33 Ace wrote: I see the peasants are at play while the King is off fighting wars If by off fighting wars you meant watching the heats/bulls game and going: On April 13 2012 11:41 Ace wrote: WADE On April 13 2012 11:49 Ace wrote: This game is fucking INSANE On April 13 2012 11:57 Ace wrote: Floater going sideways away from the basket? o.0 This game is off the chain! Then yeah, I guess that's what happened | ||
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I want a lynch on zentor. I'm too lazy to summarize it so I'mma just copy/paste my reasons from a Skype convo gahhhh, waiting for drh to get back to me is annoying. I'mma post it and if i get modkilled so be it [1:06:58 PM] Chaosers: i'm ok with a zentor lynch [1:08:02 PM] : because he wants to lynch you? [1:08:17 PM] Chaosers: i didn't even know he wanted to lynch me [1:08:18 PM] Chaosers: lol [1:08:20 PM] Chaosers: "GM, as annoying as sand is being right now, I think ET seems the scummiest right now, so I would kill him, but it is really difficult to have an accurate read yet." [1:08:24 PM] Chaosers: cause of that [1:08:38 PM] Chaosers: and the fact that he tried to derail thread by talking about what happened in GoT [1:09:08 PM] Chaosers: he's trying to get people to not trust sandroba [1:09:12 PM] : ok. quite similar reasons to what i had for engaging him in conversation, lol [1:09:15 PM] Chaosers: and running a "counter" campaign [1:09:26 PM] Chaosers: based on being transparent [1:09:36 PM] Chaosers: but then he says the exact same thing as sandro [1:09:50 PM] Chaosers: but tries to sell it as if he's completely opposite him in stances [1:10:12 PM] Chaosers: "i will follow town's vote for N1 lynch...unless I don't think they're right" [1:12:39 PM] Chaosers: i'm on page 17 [1:12:51 PM] Chaosers: i think he's scummy and the best lynch for today [1:12:56 PM] Chaosers: but even if he turns out to be not scum [1:13:01 PM] Chaosers: it's still an ok lynch for me for night 1 [1:13:09 PM] Chaosers: cause he's being vry disruptive [1:13:17 PM] Chaosers: and he's misrepresenting people [1:18:14 PM] Chaosers: that's like the most scummy thing to do imo, misrepresneting people | ||
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On April 15 2012 03:13 Ace wrote: I find it very hard to believe that 3 people within 5 minutes all decided to make a Mr.Zentor is Scum post. PM Land must be going wild right now. i actually had mine written up at 1 ish (look at my timestamps) but i wanted to wait till drh said i could copy/paste that stuff before i did it. | ||
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On April 15 2012 03:33 Kurumi wrote: This is a soft-defense of MrZentor. The thing is, it's a good idea for both Town and Scum to defend him. I don't see anything wrong with Zentor besides him losing some steam after GMarsh pressured him and his cryptic behaviour about chaoser. I agree that people who are speaking are not as good targets as people borderline lurking. isn't this also a soft defense? | ||
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On April 15 2012 03:31 Ace wrote: Anyway we shouldn't be lynching people that are actually active at the moment. Get rid of the people not participating so far. I don't know how everyone is getting such good scum reads in such a short amount of time, but let's not kill off the people that are posting so quickly. I don't understand, are you saying we should lynch lurkers that we find scummy over people who are active but we find scummy? Wouldn't typical Ace just call for people to shoot the lurkers? | ||
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On April 15 2012 03:36 Kurumi wrote: It is! I actually think that Zentor should not hang D1. Why shouldn't he? who would you rather be hanged? | ||
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On April 15 2012 03:38 Ace wrote: @Kurumi: You're reading way too much into my post. I'm not defending anyone. If I was I'd make it very obvious. @chaoser: No idea who that is. he's the king of kings yo. gilgamesh. he calls everyone mongrels and is very dismissive of everyone cause he's obvs #1 /offtopic stop | ||
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On April 15 2012 03:42 Kurumi wrote: He nailed it himself Besides nothing struck me so much from him to call him scum. I'd rather see layabout hang. He's in this magical range of not-so-active and not-so-inactive. He plays similar to his scum meta and does not jump into scumhunting until easy targets show up. He's mostly overly aggressive as Town. That's WIFOM though. Using bad play to excuse oneself? wtf...how does that make any sense? I'm playing too badly in this game to be scum is a ridiculous assertion. I hedged GoT game on that fact that people would overlook my team's bad play as "to bad to be mafia" and it worked. What do you think of his misrepresentation as well as his bullshit noncommittal stance on ET? And now he's only coming back to defend himself against allegations in a way that he's trying to paint everyone against him as somehow scummy. | ||
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Original Message From MrZentor: What do you think of Acrofales? What do you think of moi? Are you scum? acro is townie you are scum i am not | ||
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On April 15 2012 04:28 GMarshal wrote: On my phone, out and about. Can't exactly write huge posts. skype date tonight kk?? | ||
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On April 15 2012 02:09 MrZentor wrote: I actually think Chaoser is the most innocent person here. | ||
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On April 15 2012 07:35 sinani206 wrote: What is this about guns? I thought we were talking about the mayor lynch. being captain basically makes you day one day vigi? | ||
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On April 15 2012 10:41 l10f wrote: Letters have nothing to do with alignment, so let's not discuss them for now. GMarshal gave a pretty good warning that he would lynch Froggy if he was elected, and I voted him because I ageed with his read. + Show Spoiler + On April 15 2012 02:54 GMarshal wrote: froggynoddy This guy has the strongest case against him tight now, he has a couple tell tale signs that point him out as newbie scum On April 15 2012 03:27 GMarshal wrote: I like how my case on froggynoddy got buried in Zentor cases. MrZentor definietly posts like a scum but we shouldn't focus on him too much and lose sight of other possible scums. And definitely not worth using a vig on him just yet. He ran for captain position, and since the scum team probably put out at most one candidate for captaincy, and zentor didn't get much support at all, it's likely that he's town. Also MrZentor posts a lot and he gets people to post, so I'd rather try to make people who don't post much like Errandor and Senjai post what they think. word? you think a case from 8 hours ago off this guy's fourth post is still relevant now? And that first point applies to some other people in game, like michaelthe as well. On April 14 2012 09:38 michaelthe wrote: Ok guys, sorry I'm checking in a bit late, my day was a bit longer than expected. Initial thoughts:[...] the second point is forced at best. It makes sense to question why someone wouldn't vote for himself because obviously the most townie read for anyone should be THEMSELVES since they know if they are townie or not. Not to mention saying that froggy has the STRONGEST case against him? Word? Really GM? Where are you? Not even here for the deadline. What happened to our skype date, left me hanging | ||
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On April 17 2012 04:21 Jackal58 wrote: Reads are something of a rare commodity in this game since most everybody is posting their impressions from others that they are getting in IRC or Skype. I don't have enough bandwith at home to do skype and I haven't been on IRC since the game began and wont be until I get home from work tonight. So I feel like I'm playing with blinders on. I have received PMs from Sandroba GM and Kurumi. I think GM and Kurumi are town. Sandroba claims he is 100% confirmed town but I'm not buying what he's selling yet. He's much to interested in roles and items for me. I feel blind so far this game. Zentor - No fucking clue. Ace - No fucking clue. What do you make of them? I'm willing to lynch either. My read on zentor is still scummy and reading l10f's waffly posts on him doesn't help clear my confusion. It's WIFOM Ace hasn't done much either but perhaps he's been active in PMs. I don't know any of his thoughts at all so I'm hoping he'll post some of them. While this IS a pm game, people not posting their thoughts is kind of sketchy. same can be said for you. | ||
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On April 17 2012 07:48 VisceraEyes wrote: wherebugsgo: Which of GM/Sandroba is scum assuming one has to be scum and one has to be town? Neither one of them is scum? | ||
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On April 17 2012 22:53 chaoser wrote: Has anyone talked to sinani in PMs? Has anyone??? | ||
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On April 17 2012 23:55 Coagulation wrote: I havnt If no one else has then I'd like to push for a sinani lynch. With Ace flipping townie, it seems weird to me that all sinani has done this game is try to buddy Ace: On April 13 2012 13:02 sinani206 wrote: Still don't understand why people want to kill you. Also I think too many people are throwing their mayor votes around. It just doesn't make any sense to me. On April 13 2012 13:10 sinani206 wrote: There's nothing wrong with not posting for ~20 minutes because of watching a sporting event. On April 14 2012 16:57 sinani206 wrote: Current thoughts on the three major mayor candidates: sandroba: Kinda wants to be mayor for the power. He is pretty much saying that if he's elected, he will run a dictatorship. I don't really like this. Ace: As usual, his concise posts make a shit ton of sense. I'd also vote for him to prevent him from being stupidly killed for the heck of it. GMarshal: Does look like the best candidate. Playing his true town meta and also helping out newer players. With bonus "^_^" (lol). My vote's going on him for now. If no one has been in contact with him in PMs, then his making this statement is pretty hypocritical: On April 17 2012 03:21 sinani206 wrote: It's a PM game; you need to communicate in PMs. It's like playing an entirely different game. And you still want to play regular mafia. That doesn't make any sense to me. | ||
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On April 18 2012 07:29 marvellosity wrote: But how does it help town in any way, you lying about having an item? What relevance has you dying early got to do with anything? I don't get it it might be that he lied about having a vet item so that mafia wouldn't want to waste two shots on him. But given the fact that he's done nothing of value at all yet, I don't see the point of surviving... | ||
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So like I said, I really didn't want to do this; I wanted for Sandroba to be wrong in addition to making the game less fun. wut? lol | ||
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On April 19 2012 04:13 VisceraEyes wrote: chaoser, what are your thoughts on the Jackal flip? I think it makes sandro look pretty good, and I'm a conspiracy enthusiast. no shit? lol | ||
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On April 19 2012 04:27 VisceraEyes wrote: You seem confident you're going to survive the night. I'd rather you answer me now. no thanks | ||
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On April 19 2012 04:45 VisceraEyes wrote: Because you're a veteran player and always a good shot if you're town? Christ, could you at least ACT like you're town? If I'm mafia, I either won't get shot or a vigi will shoot me. The first one means I will need to answer the question tomorrow. The second one means a mafia died. Both are good for town. If I'm townie, I either won't get shot or a mafia/vigi will shoot me. The first one means I will need to answer the question tomorrow. The second one just means I need a backup plan to give everyone else my info. I have one. Not to mention the fact that if I give my answer right now, mafia can decide to shoot me and then use my post as an excuse to push for the lynch of those people that I had wrong reads on. Either way there's nothing that waiting till tomorrow doesn't accomplish today. Are you calling me mafia btw? | ||
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On April 19 2012 05:08 VisceraEyes wrote: I just want you to answer the question. Mafia aren't the only people that act at night chaoser. Like I said, it doesn't matter to me. People can shoot me if they want, I care not if they are mafia or town. Who gives out reads right now when it's not even near the end of night anyway? | ||
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On April 19 2012 07:16 VisceraEyes wrote: Node sir, confirmed scum wants you dead. If you want town to comply with scum's dying wishes, keep doin what you're doin bro - we miss you in the thread. What are you talking about? Kurumi was the one that said Node needed to die and asked Jackal what he thought of him. Jackal didn't even respond back to that point. | ||
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On April 19 2012 01:45 Kurumi wrote: + Show Spoiler + Original Message From Jackal58: I don't think GMarshall and Sandroba are both scum. One of them most likely and I'd have to lean on Gmarshall atm. Chaoser is an excellent scum player. He's actually the scariest one to me in the game if he rolled red. I'll wait a bit before I call him anything. Ace hasn't made any crazy claims yet so I'm leaning town on him. Coag I think is town but I haven't had a chance to talk to him in PM land yet. If he ignores me in IRC or PMs he's scum. To have a bigger picture. Node is scum. He wanted to make this game his comeback. If he is town, then it is not a comeback. As scum either, but should we care then? Talking about that VE. He went from Node is townie early in the game to Node is mafia just before sandroba came in and publicly stated that his item was wrong. But even then, I'm sure many people already knew about the weird claim in PM land. Node is by no means townie. | ||
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@VE, I think strongandbig, node, and michaelthe are the final mafia | ||
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On April 19 2012 10:57 Node wrote: I shot Coagulation. calling bullshit on this, let me straighten out all my facts and I'll get back to town. | ||
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On April 19 2012 11:38 VisceraEyes wrote: LOOK AT THE BIG BALLS ON ZENTOR!!! ##Vote: Kurumi Good one sir. I feel stronger about this than any number of lurker lynches we could support today. /salute negative, kurumi is probably not mafia | ||
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On April 19 2012 11:44 MrZentor wrote: I know he gave an item to a person, but I do think he would make a good lynch(he claims he's vanilla townie and gave away his item), or at least a good dt check. I think he'd be a good dt check at best. And it's not just an item, it's apparently a VERY good item. That plus the fact that the person he gave it to is incredibly townie and also the fact that he was one of the few people that wanted tali for captain makes me think he is townie. My short note on him is: 25. Kurumi - probably townie, gave [blank] a good item Probably townie though I hate him for being it, he's voting tali. Either he's townie or he's mafia that picked up on it and is voting for someone that 100% won't be able to win the captain | ||
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On April 19 2012 11:52 VisceraEyes wrote: You must be scum then. *shrug* so you're saying the first person to support sandroba ever in this game and has been in communication with him and GM since the game started about reads is scum? sigh, facepalm | ||
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7. RayzorFlash Filter 8. sinani206 Filter 9. VE Filter 10. chaoser Filter 12. risk.nuke Filter 13. EchelonTee Filter 14. Maverick32x Filter 16. prplhz Filter 17. michaelthe Filter 19. Snarfs Filter 20. wherebugsgo Filter 22. erandorr Filter 23. MrZentor Filter 24. Node Filter 25. Kurumi Filter 26. Dirk Filter 27. marvellosity Filter 28. strongandbig Filter 30. VayeshMoru Filter 20 players left 17 town 3 mafia I think this is a correct count | ||
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On April 18 2012 00:10 chaoser wrote: If no one else has then I'd like to push for a sinani lynch. With Ace flipping townie, it seems weird to me that all sinani has done this game is try to buddy Ace: If no one has been in contact with him in PMs, then his making this statement is pretty hypocritical: case. Question sinani, how active have you been in PMland? | ||
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On April 20 2012 00:29 marvellosity wrote: VE, I'm curious - how have your reads/understanding of the game changed since Jackal was lynched and sandroba flipped town? seriously... | ||
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On April 20 2012 00:33 VisceraEyes wrote: Demean others' effort in the game when I'm not around chaoser. I'm merely demeaning effort that is useless, which is worse than no effort cause at least then you're not wasting your, and everyone else's energy. GM "confirmed" town by way of being the role that sandro is the backup for. Unless you think role doesn't mean alignment or that backups and the original role don't have to be the same alignment, GM is town. To criticize him for not posting much is ridiculous, he had an accident and has been getting medical treatment since then. To criticize his replacement is even more ridiculous since it's been less than 24 hours since the replacement happened. I don't know about WBG but given that he voted between Ace and Sandroba and has been in communication with sandroba in a decently deep level, I'm going to assume he's town. I trust sandroba's judgment there, especially since there are other more scummy people out there (strongandbig, sinani) that need taking care of. If things come down to it where we are completely lost then obviously we need to reconsider but we are not at that point yet. Aside from all this, I'm surprised you're still not on the same page as the rest of us given what has gone down. Kurumi is a bad vote and sadly so is mrzentor at this point and unless I'm mafia that's been buddying sandroba since the very first page of the game starting, to think I'm mafia ridiculous. All in all, you're the one that's annoying. Get with the program please. | ||
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On April 20 2012 01:11 marvellosity wrote: Why does role have to = alignment and why do backups have to be the same alignment as the original role? They don't but do you really think GM is mafia? If he was, then mafia have all the information sandro has and thus could have prevented the killing of l10f and coag. | ||
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On April 21 2012 06:14 Maverick32x wrote: Chaoser- I'm tempted to lean more towards ET than either of those two... My reasoning is that Sinani and S&B were both voted/encouraged by WBG... Any strong counters to an ET vote? I mean, at this point, obviously the only thing that would save mafia is "town-cred" and being behind any mafia lynch is obviously the easiest and quickest way to get lots of town cred. Which is why I'm thinking most mafia, especially if it's WBG, are probably bussing each other. This actually doesn't matter though since mafia are so far away from a win that it's almost impossible. I just want a sinani lynch for ego's sake cause i wanna see if I'm right or not. same thing applies to strongandbig | ||
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On April 21 2012 06:53 VisceraEyes wrote: chaoser, someone else said I was fear-mongering. Someone who flipped scum. I'd probably choose my words more carefully sir. lol, what does that even mean? are you threatening me or something? are you saying I'm mafia? or that somehow you'll make me mafia and then kill me? lol. what was the point of that? | ||
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On April 21 2012 09:34 VisceraEyes wrote: ? You doubt me? Even chaoser shut his face, and YOU dare to question my capabilities? Oh sir. OH SIIIIRRRR. No you're right, the bravado was mostly for show. I went out for dinner with the SO...but yeah, you can't force a no lynch | ||
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As for the claims, mafia really got screwed this game. It was pretty obvious to me that sandroba was townie right at the start of the game due to his activity and his first original plan that fell through immediately when DrH killed it. Talking to him in IMs, I was 90% sure he was townie. Gm and sandroba hooking up in the beginning and being the tech and tech backup was just pure luck. From that point on they pretty much dominated the game once a vigi claimed to them and they shot a mafia member. I'd really just blame bad luck for the mafia loss on this one. So many key things came together for townie so early that by the time mafia could even respond, it was already too late. I do think mafia should have had a medic role though. And by day two the game was more about finding townies than anything else. Tali was obvious townie day one and from rayzor and snarf privately asking tali to run for captain, I figured they were townie as well, especially since they did it immediately after tali's first or second post. Marv was townie as soon as we talked cause he claimed immediately to me and then later told me he was DT without me prompting him lol. After Night one, Kurumi was townie to me because I found out he gave tali a good item, risk obviously shot l10f, and from there things just snowballed. | ||
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cause i'd be ok with that. is anyone else ok with that? It'd be just like that time RoL claimed jack and said Ace was checked as mafia right at the start of Day 1 even though RoL was Town Idiot and Ace was godfather. | ||
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