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On April 13 2012 23:16 Coagulation wrote: sandroba rolefishing in PM land does look scummy as fuck. He needs to clarify why hes doing it. I have no idea how you could make a call on ace this early with zero info on him. but if he doesnt end up killed by scum night1 or night2 hes likely scum. Or he stumbles upon a graveyard while visiting a bar. | ||
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On April 13 2012 23:25 sandroba wrote: Point me to a game where I told people to claim to me where I was scum. I'm also not bullshitting, I CAN "confirm" some people as I have already. Also I never put in this much effort as scum. Ever. I've been busy in pm land all night. Yeah, that's right, I'm townie as fuck. I was talking about posting Your skype and telling people to talk with You. | ||
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On April 13 2012 23:41 sandroba wrote: I do that every pm game and I was scum in only one of them. The one I was scum I talked to only 2 people mostly and never tried to contact anyone else. If I pm'ed you of all people to try to figure out stuff that should tell you something. You have found a way to confirm a bunch of players and You're collecting claims thanks to this bullshit reason. You did not find a way to confirm a bunch of players out of nowhere. You're lying. You're fishing for roles. Since when TL Mafia has magic button "confirm town" in every themed PM game, huh? DON'T CLAIM TO SANDROBA. Don't claim to ANYBODY, it's DAY ONE. Day two isn't right either. Don't be stupid damn it. | ||
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On April 13 2012 23:59 sandroba wrote: I'm not lying. I'm not asking for information with nothing in return. I did find a mechanic that can confirm some players. If anyone wants to talk to me about it I can explain in skype. No, explain it here, now. What's holding You? Scum being able to confirm Town? Sure! | ||
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On April 14 2012 00:04 Acrofales wrote: He's trumping the mechanic. It confirms nothing except some of the roles people claim. I still believe he's town, though. It smells fishy. Sometimes in closed setups scum are given couple of roles that Town has. Keep that in mind. Just because one knows about some role does not mean one has it self. | ||
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On April 14 2012 00:09 sandroba wrote: Let me throw this out there. I have a few claims already. The power roles in this game are most likely unique due to nature of the theme. There are back-up roles. This is a nightmare for mafia if I can "confirm" more people. Now go slip the entire info somewhere random, that'll be cool right? This can't possibly turn out positive. | ||
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On April 14 2012 00:11 Maverick32x wrote: And one person who goes off their day 1 reads is better? So if they Lynch a townie they can just shrug their shoulders? A Democratic approach allows us to view everyone's scum hunting ability.. not just the captain.. It's not about scum hunting. It's about taking stances. | ||
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Talismania, You might need a shovel. | ||
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On April 14 2012 09:13 layabout wrote: Having spent a rare day away from the computer due to frequent and annoying _____* I have had barely any time to read the thread. after a quick skim and a PM with sandro Part of me wants to vote GM for being a gentleman, and i would like to know if he intends to explain what he plans to do, and why he should be mayor. Will he try to enforce rules of proper conduct for instance? Will he lynch Kurumi who clearly does not care about catching scum? The rest of me wants to vote for sandro. If he really is committing all of this time to PM with so many players it should be very difficult for him to do so as scum. So in a sense voting for him is less risky because their is a reduced chance that he could remain alive and looking town if he is scum. He also has better than average early reads and is thus a good candidate by default. Is anybody else wondering why a town WBG would do this? + Show Spoiler [*] + I am not sure what the term is but i do know that all the lights dim and my PC turns itself off I guess You're going to be the Ciryandor v2! 1st You claim You don't have a lot of time to read the thread. Why would I care? Instead of this line it could say something helpful. 2nd "For being gentleman" - solid reason jubbie. The only one too. You're questioning Gmarsh as captain candidate and soft-pushing me without any proof. 3rd Then, You go full wishy-washy and say things about sandroba. You say that he can't be scum because a) He PMs people for a long time (null at best) b) [Has a magical plan of confirming Town which he doesn't want to share] (another one that You're not posting about, but isn't that an amazing point?) c) He has "better than average early reads" please, prove it. Why sandroba is better than GMarsh? You're trying to look sandroba better for not much reason, like trying to sway new players opinion on him. You're scum, layabout. This post is prime example how not to play scum. I hope You were good friends with Wheatley and Space Core. | ||
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On April 14 2012 20:30 layabout wrote: Show nested quote + On April 14 2012 20:02 froggynoddy wrote: sorry, this bit: If he really is committing all of this time to PM with so many players it should be very difficult for him to do so as scum. So in a sense voting for him is less risky because their is a reduced chance that he could remain alive and looking town if he is scum. He also has better than average early reads and is thus a good candidate by default. 4. You may not vote for yourself. You may not vote for anyone dead or outside the game Does this apply to all voting or just lynch voting i.e. can you not vote for yourself as captain: I am saying that he is currently committing a lot of time and effort to the thread and is sharing a lot of thoughts and reads with lots of people. So he must be going through the thread and coming up with these reads. If he is scum he is giving himself plenty of opportunities to slip up. He would have to discuss his scumbuddies and describe why he think they are town, and explain why he suspects players that he knows are not scum. So it is likely that he would end up giving himself or his team mates away. This makes him a preferable candidate to somebody that has not made that commitment. It was not a town read. Why would You try to think what Mafia would do? Isn't it easier for Town player to think what OTHER Town player would do? Basically what You're saying is: "I think sandro is town. but I am not sure sandro is town." | ||
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"but I am not sure I think sandro is town" | ||
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On April 14 2012 21:24 sandroba wrote: @Kurumi can you quit your nonsense? Can you explain why the fuck do you think I'm scum? Why do you think Ace is town? You never bothered even trying to ask me anything when I tried to communicate with you in pms, you just trolled me and you jumped to the conclusion I was lying without a second thought and no effort to understand what I was saying. CHAINSAW DEFENSE WRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR | ||
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This is not how the game works. You just agreed with my points, thanks. I find it amazing that after I made a short post attacking layabout You're back together with sandroba. Mind posting logs with You two talking? You might omit all the plan chit-chat because somehow it's so magical that it can't be seen by others, because as I said MAFIA CONFIRMING TOWN, OMG! Prove that You're talking in PMs. Just because You say "sandroba made me confident he is town in pms" (D1, mind You) does not say anything to us. | ||
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On April 14 2012 21:24 sandroba wrote: @Kurumi can you quit your nonsense? Can you explain why the fuck do you think I'm scum? Why do you think Ace is town? You never bothered even trying to ask me anything when I tried to communicate with you in pms, you just trolled me and you jumped to the conclusion I was lying without a second thought and no effort to understand what I was saying. You refused to explain Your plan in the thread. I don't believe in breaking the setup by one guy having all the roleclaims, because that's what I know now. Things I do in PM land are things I do because I want. Want some logs? 3/4 are trolling and there are only two people I actually did not troll. + Show Spoiler [Acrofales convo] + He wants to talk to everybody, announces his skype publicly and shit I am not into PMs bro He asked me to claim and I did not. stupid black and yellow shit so basically you're saying that he claimed the same role you have, ok fine good stuff okay tough shit anything else also don't claim just because. D1 claiming is fucking retarded, D2 is borderline retarded and D3 claiming is maybe semi okay if you know like for 99% about someone he's town unless you're on a horse, then just disregard this advice and keep rollin them biomass bitches into the ground with lies Original Message From Acrofales: Okay. He roleclaimed to me and I know the claim is a town role. Now he could've gotten the role from another townie, but somewhere he had to start. It only hit me afterwards that his claim does not make him town auto-town. Can you give me some more information? I've never played a PM game with sandro before, so his meta is unreadable to me. Original Message From Kurumi: Leaning scum because he started this game the same way he does his scum pm ones Original Message From Acrofales: You think he's town or scum? Original Message From Kurumi: yeah I talked to sandro so what Original Message From Acrofales: You said buttseks in D2... so I'll pass on your ass today. Now. Why you avoiding my question? Original Message From Kurumi: PM games tend to have lower activity and suprise buttsex action starting D2. Now grab my ass Original Message From Acrofales: No. I am just trying to figure out this PM game. You talked to sandroba yet? I also hate TL's PM system, which is why skype. I accept googletalk or msn as well. Original Message From Kurumi: no skype sucks Are You scared? Original Message From Acrofales: Mind adding me on skype? + Show Spoiler [sandroba convo] + Original Message From sandroba: I think you are cute <3 tell me your secrets Show nested quote + Original Message From Kurumi: I am best cowboy put there cow fuck it now Original Message From sandroba: Sup bro. As usual I'm trying to get people to claim to me. I found a way to confirm a bunch of players using a mechanic present in some pms. Care to claim? Original Message From Kurumi: Chezinu is watching + Show Spoiler [wherebugsgo convo] + Shitty love story and shit shitty yo i tell ya he is good tho Original Message From wherebugsgo: why jackal Hide nested quote - Original Message From Kurumi: Bugger i vote jackal good guy yo Original Message From wherebugsgo: I like you. who are you going to vote for captain? Original Message From Kurumi: I like trains no he not being my partner bugger bigger big Original Message From wherebugsgo: are you his scumbuddy kurumi Original Message From Kurumi: Mimimimimi mimimi mimimi + Show Spoiler [Ace convo] + Original Message From Ace: he's still fishing for roles? lulz Show nested quote + Original Message From Kurumi: Sandroba said that he "usually ask people to claim" D1, which I believe is bullshit (at least there's no motivation for town to collect claims D1) He's obviously fishing for claims, hints to learn something about the setup. I understand this information is good for every side, but Mafia gains a lot more from knowing the roles present than Town, even when made public, this is the same thing as publicly claiming for no reason really fast. [redacted] I have two more or something but I don't care | ||
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On April 14 2012 22:12 Acrofales wrote: Mind not posting my skype info in the thread :S I get enough spam as is, thank you. Other than that, it's all fine. Doc, can you please edit out my skype info in Kurumi's post? Thanks Sorry, did not think about this. If Doc allows me to edit out my post I will. | ||
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On April 14 2012 19:47 layabout wrote: Show nested quote + On April 14 2012 19:26 froggynoddy wrote: On April 14 2012 09:13 layabout wrote: Having spent a rare day away from the computer due to frequent and annoying _____* I have had barely any time to read the thread. after a quick skim and a PM with sandro Part of me wants to vote GM for being a gentleman, and i would like to know if he intends to explain what he plans to do, and why he should be mayor. Will he try to enforce rules of proper conduct for instance? Will he lynch Kurumi who clearly does not care about catching scum? The rest of me wants to vote for sandro. If he really is committing all of this time to PM with so many players it should be very difficult for him to do so as scum. So in a sense voting for him is less risky because their is a reduced chance that he could remain alive and looking town if he is scum. He also has better than average early reads and is thus a good candidate by default. Is anybody else wondering why a town WBG would do this? + Show Spoiler [*] + I am not sure what the term is but i do know that all the lights dim and my PC turns itself off I'm really sorry if I'm being obtuse but can you explain to me the logic in your town read here? Which town read? Also for somebody that seems to value transparency l10f has shared very little. That's finger pointing. You've done this twice. To me and l10f. There's no contradiction in my post. Nobody asked You why You were away. Nobody cared. Then, why the hell would You post that You were busy? My early-game posts are early-game posts. Don't expect them to be too good. That goes for pretty much everybody. You can't have a fully fleshed out case 10 hours into the game, come on. The days are 48h for a reason (besides timezones) You posted a post full of fluff and I called You out on it. You also tried to lower opinion of GMarsh and make look sandroba better, my question is: WHY? You weren't so "confident" about sandroba then. You're lying. You don't even know what You've thought some time ago, but that's cool. When I am scum I have the same problems. Then I just usually lurk or just post a lot without attacking anybody, because it's easy! You support some shady D1 all-claim-to-one-guy plan with no reasoning. You just think sandroba is Town because he cares. I WOULD CARE TOO IF PEOPLE STARTED CLAIMING TO ME DAY ONE LOL Ace's looking Town because he's making all the good observations so far. Sandroba is scum because no town would try to get all the claims day 1 for no reason for the sake of "confirming them by a broken mechanic" Also, did You know I am Obama himself? Trust me, that's as true as Sandroba's intentions! | ||
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Ace had a couple of posts already which are mostly pure pointing out things we could've missed out. I said already I am going to vote the person against sandroba, so it'll probably be GM. I'd like someone like talismania as Captain but he/she doesn't seem to be interested in being one. GMarsh although said sandro is his best Town read. Most of his points are crucial too, like one about how democratic voting for D1 Lynch is bad. His pressure on Zentor is good too. Couple of things about Ace: 1st People wanted/want him lynched for no reason. I see no reason for the scum team to spout such nonsense on their team mate. The other way for this is that no scum ever voiced opinion on this matter, which might be possible. 2nd He's making good points, like saving good players instead of lynching them as fast as You can just because they're good. It's not like I am 100% Ace is town. I just don't think he would pick up the lost things if he was scum. Disinformation's good for Mafia. | ||
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On April 14 2012 23:15 Acrofales wrote: People are PM'ing me. How bout you? Silence, pretty worried that scumteam waits for some vet to get some kind of case rolling on whoever. Do You think Captain will be something more than usual bodyguard stuff? | ||
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