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Alright, that settles it
TOWN WE ARE PLAYING THE STOP BEING RETARDED SHEEP GAME
On April 11 2012 19:33 Macheji wrote:Show nested quote +Explained pretty well?
There's hardly anything worth mention...
Why are you trying to excuse peoples sheeping? Anything worth mention .... What are you talking about... He has the most things worth mentioning about. I'll summerise it for you one last time. 1. He proposed 4 people to get lynched so far. The last one beeing me for "missuse" of Occam's Razor ( in reality it's because i'm making a case against him ) 2. He lied about posts timing in his "kill bluelightz" posts 3.When people were starting to make a case against him he done this : ... Our claims were preatty clear, we were serious, and transparent, well , how can you EVEN do that. He ends it with "thread is trash" in order to diminish the last page's importance ( the last pages were about why should we lynch him ) 4. Then Show nested quote + think Strongandbig is a third party.
His posting History this game is the following:
I want to /in
/in
I am going for "bastard meta"
/confirm
Is Darzek claiming broken shell? oh btw i haven't seen lost
37 "!" you a sleeper cell?
Contrived twitpic nonsense
"Im Tovn" dont trust ppl
I looked at the lsot wiki, maybe everyone in town is a survivor?
I think BM is a smurf and he is lurking, so i am going to pressure him, aren't i useful Ok, am i the only one tottaly confused by this... What exactly prooves he's a third party... I find that post bullshit. AND it's 20 minutes after the "thread is bullshit " post. I think that post was made in order to distract the topic from " let's lynch layabout" to ... are there third parties, who is this strongandbig guy etc.
Let me get this straight: He was looking for viable lynch targets, mistook at what time he posted on a 'kill bluelights' thing that wasnt even serious in the first place, asked for a real reason to be lynched, and pointed out a non contributing player.
OH MY GOD WTF LYNCH HIM!!!!
/sarcasm
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Addendum: Macheji is still scum.
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Lol, newbie card... I really am a newbie. the only post i made on TL pre-bastard mafia was when i organized the barcraft in Romania  ). Fine then vote me for beeing "defensive" then. But keep in mind that in the future, you'll have to apply the same logic to other players. And if i don't die i'll be there to point that out. Also, if you were in my case what would you have done when bluelightz accused you of sheeping ( WICH i proved wrong through my defense, so it was a LEGIT defense ). The second one i admit was preventive but that was because bluelightz never responded to my post.
Now , in my last post i brought new facts ( I done that before aswell but meh )
The last defense was right after you attacked me.
So PLEASE, stop this bullshit, if you want to lynch me because i made 1 preventive defense post and blow it all out of proportion by saying i get defensive every time i reply to an accusation, well, that looks dubious, and now on my part, but yours.
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Dude you are blowing things out of proportion. You base your case on 1 defensive post i made w/o beeing directly accused and you go all caps red text and shit that i'm scum ).... Atealst make an organized post explaining yourself. When i think about how you act i imagine this little boy that says a bike sucks, and when the other guy says the bike is ok he starts looking everywhere, at a moment he find a small scrath on the chair and start screaming "looook looook a scratch i TOLD you thiis bike sucks" .... I don't know, you behavior is starting to become suspect
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Btw guys start casting your votes, the rules say that the vote 6. Voting is mandatory. You may NOT abstain.
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Hmmmmmm.........
On April 11 2012 05:40 Macheji wrote:Oh and before bluelightz starts accusing me of sheeping or whatever it's called again. I know i used Drazerk's point. I added some details so other people don't have to start checking all the forums for the times. I also said it to show you guys what determined me to cast my vote and to reply to layabout's
Like Comepletely recycling someone else's point is NOT sheeping........
Well, got your response, I know your town now Macheji, No scum would be like genuinely mad on something except if he's town.
I know this is a contradiction but After thinking up again I can't see why LB started the Kill Bluelightz if his win con was really to kill me, idk and you sheep guys thar explain yourself with anything other than "LB lied with the Kill Bluelightz stuff"
Including you Macheji
Anyway, Im gonna make a case on CC because he pushed too far on Macheji.
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Yeah, I'm good with a Cyber_Cheese lynch. Playing the newbie card is one thing, but not as a sole basis for a lynch. I think Macheji responded fine to C_C's accusation, and the fact that C_C is still pushing it is coming off as scummy to me.
##Vote: Cyber_Cheese
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On April 11 2012 20:49 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yeah, I'm good with a Cyber_Cheese lynch. Playing the newbie card is one thing, but not as a sole basis for a lynch. I think Macheji responded fine to C_C's accusation, and the fact that C_C is still pushing it is coming off as scummy to me.
##Vote: Cyber_Cheese
Hi5 rofl Die CC on day 1 again :p
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On April 11 2012 09:37 GreYMisT wrote:
My problem with this I stated earlier, and no one has addressed it. now that you guys all know that draz has to keep me alive, all defense he makes towards me will now be counted as thus, I can gaurentee that less attention will be given to it becuase you will assume to know the motivation behind it. The same goes for if you know that I had to kill someone. You won't but as much stock in any case I make because you know its my win con.
Having to keep one of several people alive is not the same as having someone dead at the end of the game.
In my case it would even be ok if all 4 of the listed names are dead as long as I survive. So I actually have zero interest to keep all 4 alive. Also, there is also the possibility that some people are lying or only talking about half their list.
On April 10 2012 06:45 Hassybaby wrote:
wait
On April 11 2012 08:05 Hassybaby wrote:
Wait
On April 11 2012 08:22 Hassybaby wrote:
Wait
We've waited almost two days now, Hassybaby, what are your reads? Who do you wanna lynch, who do you think is scummy?
The same questions to you Jackal58, there is nothing useful of you so far. How about we get a read or two of you?
And BagManager, stop lurking!
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My case is fucking short yayyyyy
Okay first point, he's not posting useless stuff
On April 10 2012 14:48 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Hey, strongandbig, why are you obsessed with the sleeper cell agents?
Furthermore, why would you try using code, when you have the anonymous message at your disposal?
Both questions, provide no fucking information on what s&b's alignment is.
Second and last(lol) point, He pushed too far on Macheji, I think that Macheji finally cracked as town when he well sorta raged, Like I said in my previous post he seemed geniuinely mad so therefore he is town.
##Vote: Cyber_Cheese
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Everybody Post! huehuehue Post!
I see VE and HB posting in the other game(TL Mafia LII) but not this one 
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On April 11 2012 20:27 Bluelightz wrote:
Well, got your response, I know your town now Macheji, No scum would be like genuinely mad on something except if he's town.
On April 11 2012 20:57 Bluelightz wrote:My case is fucking short yayyyyy Okay first point, he's not posting useless stuff Show nested quote +On April 10 2012 14:48 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Hey, strongandbig, why are you obsessed with the sleeper cell agents?
Furthermore, why would you try using code, when you have the anonymous message at your disposal? Both questions, provide no fucking information on what s&b's alignment is. Second and last(lol) point, He pushed too far on Macheji, I think that Macheji finally cracked as town when he well sorta raged, Like I said in my previous post he seemed geniuinely mad so therefore he is town. ##Vote: Cyber_Cheese
If I would not know that this is your way of putting effort in a game, I would vote you know.
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I mean, I want people to vote for C_C. What, you wanna fight about it?
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People I'd gladly lynch today:
- strongandbig. He is only trolling or talking about game mechanics, avoids any other topic in the thread.
- BagManager for hardcore lurking
People I might help lynch if the above two are not gonna happen:
- johnnywupp for claiming survivor / 3rd party
- Drazerk for already stated reasons
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Lets assume we are all survivors or town.
Town are not mafia. Survivors are not mafia.
+ Show Spoiler [Filters] +
Very likely survivor:
Johnnywub + Show Spoiler +he claims it when mafia would not be sure if there were many survivors and when there was no real need for him to claim it
strongandbig + Show Spoiler +he speculates that everyone is a survivor, i also think he is 3rd party.
Drazerk + Show Spoiler +based on his wincon being to keep himself alive On April 11 2012 07:26 Drazerk wrote:
Myself, Macheji, Jackal58 or GreYMisT
Go There was also this "be nice to survivors posts" On April 10 2012 23:28 Drazerk wrote:
Which annoys me because if someone claims survivor you should just ignore them instead of lynching them day 1 On April 10 2012 23:44 Drazerk wrote:
don't even like vigs targetting survivors
Just leave em be >.>
Also all three are acting like they do not care about lyching mafia. They are acting like they received a 3rd party role and then decided to mess around.
A sensible townie knows that survivors can win without town and will pay less attention to what someone that claims survivor says. Likewise a sensible survivor will realise the value in getting people to listen to them and would try to avoid claiming survivor.
Probably survivor
Cyber Cheese+ Show Spoiler + On April 10 2012 09:11 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Thought: Everyone posts their wincon. Agree/Disagree? explanation coming when i regain PC acess
Hassababy + Show Spoiler +explanation coming when i regain PC acess
phagga + Show Spoiler +based on his wincon being to keep himself alive On April 11 2012 07:55 phagga wrote:
I got me, Cyber_Cheese, layabout, jackal58 or sbrubbles.
Seriously, I'm not sure what to think of the layabout thing. I mean, there was a alot of stupid banter at the start of the game, and I never took his posts about bluelightz seriously. I am quite surprised that so many people jump on that.
On the other side, his reaction is a bit lacking. So, yeah. But lynching him for this? i don't know...
Still, I also don't like how Drazerk just voted layabout before there was anything to vote him for and then tried to cover up his vote with stuff layabout said AFTER he voted him.
Also, there are a few people lurking, I'm mainly looking at Eiii and Bagmanager here. Also VE seems really tame compared to other games.
Town
Jackal + Show Spoiler +Jackal is probably the most responsible for for the wincon claims being shared, he claimed this On April 11 2012 07:33 Jackal58 wrote:Hmmmmm phagga, Sbrubbles, Hassybaby or Drazerk He is probably telling the truth because of these posts On April 11 2012 07:19 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2012 06:26 layabout wrote:+ Show Spoiler [whati want us to do] +I want us to kill Macheji for being the first player to misuse occam's razor instead of an actual argument.
I also need Greymist to live. So my wincon is for town to win and one of Greymist or Bluelightz to still be alive at endgame. On April 11 2012 05:49 Sbrubbles wrote:On April 11 2012 05:40 layabout wrote:
sbrubbles voting a player for being "defensive" is terrible Defensive wasn't the right word, admittedly. What I mean is, you could have simply stated he is your protectee. Instead, you try to meta-explain why the hosts would have him as such without anyone asking or question it. This is aside from the point, of course, that I believe you're lying. I dislike the way you are trying to over analyse an action that had very little thought put into it. Macheji, would you care to summarise your case against me and tell us how certain you are that i will flip scum? That's funny. I got 4 players in my list. On April 11 2012 07:29 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2012 07:28 VisceraEyes wrote:On April 11 2012 07:25 Jackal58 wrote:On April 11 2012 07:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
How about we all simultaneously post our Role PMs and compare them that way? I PROMISE I will too guys, really. How's about you talk everybody into lynching me. Because you haven't told me whether you're scum or not. I just THINK you are right now. If you're smart enough to figure it out I just told you what I was. Him doing this as mafia just does not seem right. Jackal is also quite a lazy player and i don't think he would bother to do this when there was no need for him to do so as mafia.
Layabout
which leaves us with:
Greymist
Bluelightz
Viscera Eyes
Bagmanger
Eiii
Sbrubbles
I am fairly sure that Blue and Grey are town but you will need to check for yourself.
Greymist seems very concernned about people not listening to him + Blue's tone indicates that he is thinking about who he thinks might be scum.
so the mafia are likely in here:
Viscera Eyes
Bagmanger
Eiii
Sbrubbles
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On April 11 2012 21:40 layabout wrote:Lets assume we are all survivors or town. Town are not mafia. Survivors are not mafia. + Show Spoiler [Filters] +Very likely survivor:Johnnywub + Show Spoiler +he claims it when mafia would not be sure if there were many survivors and when there was no real need for him to claim it strongandbig + Show Spoiler +he speculates that everyone is a survivor, i also think he is 3rd party. Drazerk + Show Spoiler +based on his wincon being to keep himself alive On April 11 2012 07:26 Drazerk wrote:
Myself, Macheji, Jackal58 or GreYMisT
Go There was also this "be nice to survivors posts" On April 10 2012 23:28 Drazerk wrote:
Which annoys me because if someone claims survivor you should just ignore them instead of lynching them day 1 On April 10 2012 23:44 Drazerk wrote:
don't even like vigs targetting survivors
Just leave em be >.> Also all three are acting like they do not care about lyching mafia. They are acting like they received a 3rd party role and then decided to mess around. A sensible townie knows that survivors can win without town and will pay less attention to what someone that claims survivor says. Likewise a sensible survivor will realise the value in getting people to listen to them and would try to avoid claiming survivor. Probably survivorCyber Cheese + Show Spoiler + On April 10 2012 09:11 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Thought: Everyone posts their wincon. Agree/Disagree? explanation coming when i regain PC acess Hassababy + Show Spoiler +explanation coming when i regain PC acess phagga + Show Spoiler +based on his wincon being to keep himself alive On April 11 2012 07:55 phagga wrote:
I got me, Cyber_Cheese, layabout, jackal58 or sbrubbles.
Seriously, I'm not sure what to think of the layabout thing. I mean, there was a alot of stupid banter at the start of the game, and I never took his posts about bluelightz seriously. I am quite surprised that so many people jump on that.
On the other side, his reaction is a bit lacking. So, yeah. But lynching him for this? i don't know...
Still, I also don't like how Drazerk just voted layabout before there was anything to vote him for and then tried to cover up his vote with stuff layabout said AFTER he voted him.
Also, there are a few people lurking, I'm mainly looking at Eiii and Bagmanager here. Also VE seems really tame compared to other games. Jackal + Show Spoiler +Jackal is probably the most responsible for for the wincon claims being shared, he claimed this On April 11 2012 07:33 Jackal58 wrote:Hmmmmm phagga, Sbrubbles, Hassybaby or Drazerk He is probably telling the truth because of these posts On April 11 2012 07:19 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2012 06:26 layabout wrote:+ Show Spoiler [whati want us to do] +I want us to kill Macheji for being the first player to misuse occam's razor instead of an actual argument.
I also need Greymist to live. So my wincon is for town to win and one of Greymist or Bluelightz to still be alive at endgame. On April 11 2012 05:49 Sbrubbles wrote:On April 11 2012 05:40 layabout wrote:
sbrubbles voting a player for being "defensive" is terrible Defensive wasn't the right word, admittedly. What I mean is, you could have simply stated he is your protectee. Instead, you try to meta-explain why the hosts would have him as such without anyone asking or question it. This is aside from the point, of course, that I believe you're lying. I dislike the way you are trying to over analyse an action that had very little thought put into it. Macheji, would you care to summarise your case against me and tell us how certain you are that i will flip scum? That's funny. I got 4 players in my list. On April 11 2012 07:29 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2012 07:28 VisceraEyes wrote:On April 11 2012 07:25 Jackal58 wrote:On April 11 2012 07:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
How about we all simultaneously post our Role PMs and compare them that way? I PROMISE I will too guys, really. How's about you talk everybody into lynching me. Because you haven't told me whether you're scum or not. I just THINK you are right now. If you're smart enough to figure it out I just told you what I was. Him doing this as mafia just does not seem right. Jackal is also quite a lazy player and i don't think he would bother to do this when there was no need for him to do so as mafia. Layabout which leaves us with: Greymist Bluelightz Viscera Eyes Bagmanger Eiii Sbrubbles I am fairly sure that Blue and Grey are town but you will need to check for yourself. Greymist seems very concernned about people not listening to him + Blue's tone indicates that he is thinking about who he thinks might be scum. so the mafia are likely in here: Viscera Eyes Bagmanger Eiii Sbrubbles
Can't help but noticed you missed Macheji
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Well my two main reads are strongandbig and Bagmanager, But Bagmanager is one of the guys who are in my "if he's alive at the end, you win" list, so surprisingly I'd rather lynch strongandbig...(grey I see what you mean)
I'd classify his posts in three ways. Firstly, the "..why is this here" section:
+ Show Spoiler +On April 10 2012 07:10 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2012 07:04 GreYMisT wrote:
After Game of Thrones Mafia I feel the need to say THIS IS A JOKE POST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There are exactly 37 exclamation marks in this post. Clearly an attempt to communicate to his sleeper cell buddies. On April 10 2012 08:53 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2012 07:47 Macheji wrote:
@ layabout Empty post, funny tho , atleast you aren't proposing your third lynch target. Actually it would be his fourth - or fifth, if you count Bluelightz, who he was asking for a vig shot on: (Bluelightz) Sbrubbles VisceraEyes Strongandbig (me) Johnnywub The acronym spelled from these lynch targets? BSVSJ. Which links us to this twitpic. So if we can figure out where that is, we'll know who layabout is trying to communicate with.
Next we have the "seems obvious" section
+ Show Spoiler +On April 10 2012 12:38 strongandbig wrote:
Basically, the point they're making is, don't trust anyone.
Not even the mods. On April 10 2012 23:10 strongandbig wrote:I actually have read through a bunch of the lost wiki, and the reason I was confused is that I was using the Lost series meaning of the word "survivor", where the "survivors" are the town equivalent. I see that the role "survivor" is black in the OP, so I'm not sure what this means for this game.
Then we finally have the "these guys are suspicious, but without much backing:
+ Show Spoiler +On April 11 2012 09:11 strongandbig wrote:
Regarding the chart!
I bet the people who are the subject of the most protection commands are the serial killers.
It just makes sense from the point of view of the hosts trolling us. On April 11 2012 01:21 strongandbig wrote:
On Topic: I'm suspicious of BagManager. Only five posts, and yet he knows how to copy the bold red formatting on his /confirm, and what a bastard game is?
Who are you really, BagManager?
What do you have to hide?
I think he's scum or 3rd party. Either or, I think he needs to go
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Bagmanager hasn't yet responded to my mostly but not entirely unjustified suspicion of him. I'm voting for him at the moment. I propose that other people do the same until he either tells us whose smurf he is or defends himself from accusations of smurfdom.
Him aside, I don't think macheji looks like scum; to me he looks more like a new player, I remember when I started playing IRL mafia accusations like the first one against macheji always seemed like a bigger deal then they really are; plus there might be an esl component that makes his tone seem more defensive than he intends it.
This puts me in a bind since it makes cyber cheese seem pretty suspicious, but he's one of the people I have to keep alive. However it seems like the best way to keep anyone on these lists alive is to get the scum and / or serial killers ASAP, so I'd be willing to vote for cyber cheese anyway.
I'd also be willing to vote for layabout or jackal58. Our shenanigans are cheeky and fun whereas layabout's are hurtful and tragic; and jackal58 would be a test of my theory that we all have to protect at least one sk or scum, so the people with the most protection arrows are the most likely to be sky's or scum.
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+ Show Spoiler +On April 11 2012 16:12 johnnywup wrote:
VOTES PEOPLE VOTES! We've got scum/town to lynch!
What the fuck, man? Do you realize that by claiming survivor means you're a liability to the town if we reach Lylo? If you choose not to contribute to finding scum, you may as well be dead. It's possible that the endgame condition will make reaching Lylo impossible or something like that, but otherwise, I'll be greatly in favor of lynching you tomorrow. I would say the same thing for phagga, but he's contributing at least.
+ Show Spoiler +On April 11 2012 09:12 Hassybaby wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/GVXqD.png) Protection names doesn't equal alignment. Can still lynch him, since the guys who claimed so far have stated that any of their names surviving means a win for town (?)
Congratulations, you've just proved in graph form how useless claiming win cons is.
+ Show Spoiler +On April 11 2012 09:32 layabout wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2012 09:25 GreYMisT wrote:
I fail to see how this is helpful. Its certainly not helping us find out who the scummiest player is Well if somebody is lying and a DT check's them, the DT will know that they lied about their wincon. Other than that there is an increased chance that any two players that have to protect each other share alignments, but since players appear to have multiple targets to keep alive to endgame it's possible that that chance is not so large.
So what if a DT finds out they're lying? If a townie has a "kill XXX" condition, he's not gonna claim it, since it would just make him lose credibility. But he's still a townie and XXX may still be scum! "increased chance that any two players that have to protect each other share alignment" is pure speculation (there's already a high chance that will happen, but that is just because probably around 3/4 of the players are town).
+ Show Spoiler +On April 11 2012 21:40 layabout wrote:Lets assume we are all survivors or town. Town are not mafia. Survivors are not mafia. + Show Spoiler [Filters] +Very likely survivor:Johnnywub + Show Spoiler +he claims it when mafia would not be sure if there were many survivors and when there was no real need for him to claim it strongandbig + Show Spoiler +he speculates that everyone is a survivor, i also think he is 3rd party. Drazerk + Show Spoiler +based on his wincon being to keep himself alive On April 11 2012 07:26 Drazerk wrote:
Myself, Macheji, Jackal58 or GreYMisT
Go There was also this "be nice to survivors posts" On April 10 2012 23:28 Drazerk wrote:
Which annoys me because if someone claims survivor you should just ignore them instead of lynching them day 1 On April 10 2012 23:44 Drazerk wrote:
don't even like vigs targetting survivors
Just leave em be >.> Also all three are acting like they do not care about lyching mafia. They are acting like they received a 3rd party role and then decided to mess around. A sensible townie knows that survivors can win without town and will pay less attention to what someone that claims survivor says. Likewise a sensible survivor will realise the value in getting people to listen to them and would try to avoid claiming survivor. Probably survivorCyber Cheese + Show Spoiler + On April 10 2012 09:11 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Thought: Everyone posts their wincon. Agree/Disagree? explanation coming when i regain PC acess Hassababy + Show Spoiler +explanation coming when i regain PC acess phagga + Show Spoiler +based on his wincon being to keep himself alive On April 11 2012 07:55 phagga wrote:
I got me, Cyber_Cheese, layabout, jackal58 or sbrubbles.
Seriously, I'm not sure what to think of the layabout thing. I mean, there was a alot of stupid banter at the start of the game, and I never took his posts about bluelightz seriously. I am quite surprised that so many people jump on that.
On the other side, his reaction is a bit lacking. So, yeah. But lynching him for this? i don't know...
Still, I also don't like how Drazerk just voted layabout before there was anything to vote him for and then tried to cover up his vote with stuff layabout said AFTER he voted him.
Also, there are a few people lurking, I'm mainly looking at Eiii and Bagmanager here. Also VE seems really tame compared to other games. Jackal + Show Spoiler +Jackal is probably the most responsible for for the wincon claims being shared, he claimed this On April 11 2012 07:33 Jackal58 wrote:Hmmmmm phagga, Sbrubbles, Hassybaby or Drazerk He is probably telling the truth because of these posts On April 11 2012 07:19 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2012 06:26 layabout wrote:+ Show Spoiler [whati want us to do] +I want us to kill Macheji for being the first player to misuse occam's razor instead of an actual argument.
I also need Greymist to live. So my wincon is for town to win and one of Greymist or Bluelightz to still be alive at endgame. On April 11 2012 05:49 Sbrubbles wrote:On April 11 2012 05:40 layabout wrote:
sbrubbles voting a player for being "defensive" is terrible Defensive wasn't the right word, admittedly. What I mean is, you could have simply stated he is your protectee. Instead, you try to meta-explain why the hosts would have him as such without anyone asking or question it. This is aside from the point, of course, that I believe you're lying. I dislike the way you are trying to over analyse an action that had very little thought put into it. Macheji, would you care to summarise your case against me and tell us how certain you are that i will flip scum? That's funny. I got 4 players in my list. On April 11 2012 07:29 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2012 07:28 VisceraEyes wrote:On April 11 2012 07:25 Jackal58 wrote:On April 11 2012 07:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
How about we all simultaneously post our Role PMs and compare them that way? I PROMISE I will too guys, really. How's about you talk everybody into lynching me. Because you haven't told me whether you're scum or not. I just THINK you are right now. If you're smart enough to figure it out I just told you what I was. Him doing this as mafia just does not seem right. Jackal is also quite a lazy player and i don't think he would bother to do this when there was no need for him to do so as mafia. Layabout which leaves us with: Greymist Bluelightz Viscera Eyes Bagmanger Eiii Sbrubbles I am fairly sure that Blue and Grey are town but you will need to check for yourself. Greymist seems very concernned about people not listening to him + Blue's tone indicates that he is thinking about who he thinks might be scum. so the mafia are likely in here: Viscera Eyes Bagmanger Eiii Sbrubbles
At Lylo, survivors are essencially mafia, thus anti-town. You're making the mistaking of trying to divide people into 3 factions when in fact there are only 2. Pro-town and anti-town. Anti-town (scum and, to a lesser extent, survivors) need to be lynched or shot by vigs. If you are assuming that Blue and Grey are town because your objective is to have them live to the endgame, you're assuming wrong.
Of your "scum list", how about you make a case on one of us. Oh, and don't do it on Bagmanager. It's too easy to make a case on a lurker (unless you actually plan on casting your vote for him, then go ahead with your case).
I had you as scum before, but seing a faulty analisys that in the end just softly accuses 4 different people (two of whom accused you) while clearing everyone else just made up my mind.
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On April 11 2012 20:56 phagga wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2012 09:37 GreYMisT wrote:
My problem with this I stated earlier, and no one has addressed it. now that you guys all know that draz has to keep me alive, all defense he makes towards me will now be counted as thus, I can gaurentee that less attention will be given to it becuase you will assume to know the motivation behind it. The same goes for if you know that I had to kill someone. You won't but as much stock in any case I make because you know its my win con.
Having to keep one of several people alive is not the same as having someone dead at the end of the game. In my case it would even be ok if all 4 of the listed names are dead as long as I survive. So I actually have zero interest to keep all 4 alive. Also, there is also the possibility that some people are lying or only talking about half their list. We've waited almost two days now, Hassybaby, what are your reads? Who do you wanna lynch, who do you think is scummy? The same questions to you Jackal58, there is nothing useful of you so far. How about we get a read or two of you? And BagManager, stop lurking!
1 of mine has to survive. I'll bet your role PM states all of yours have to be dead.
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