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On April 11 2012 11:06 EchelonTee wrote:
Dammit. Should've held my shot. I was between S.T. and michealthe and they were both incorrect. meh. Jackal you're dead FYI.
Now I have to re-read VE/WBG/Adam. If you guys are scum playing me like a fiddle, I'm going to be really sad.
Definitely going to have to have a good gander at VE. As MG's death was the one that stuck out at me of that lot.
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ET, are you saying that theres 3 town-vigs in this game?
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Okay, based on Hassy's night-time activity I'm changing gears here.
##Vote: Toadesstern
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@gonzaw I will. I'm going to go out on a limb and stop my tunneling on you because I need to rethink this entire game.
Whoever is the 2nd vig who shot, unlesss you think there is a good reason that you should not claim (I don't know why such a reason would exist, but I suppose so Mafia won't shoot you?), you should claim your shot so that town can scrutinize why you took the shot. Because of the existence of Mafia aligned vigs, the extra KP could've come from scum. This applies to me too of course; I made a mistake in shooting michealthe and I should be scrutinized for it. If I had hit scum, then it would've incriminated Hassybaby to some extent, but now I am more confused.
WIFOMing too much about night kills can be a problem, but one shouldn't simply ignore who died / what the dead have said. I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that the othe vig shot was on S.T. Therefore Mafia thought it was necessary to shoot MG/Jackal/sloosh, 3 players who didn't have that much presence. Only jackal is well known as a strong player, and he had been lurking/looking fairly scummy all game, so it stands that it's possible Mafia were 1. blue sniping 2. wanted to shoot people on the right track.
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I get the feeling Jackal was the one that shot ST.
VE, please respond to my previous post and for fucks sake comment something about my case on Toad.
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EBWOP:
Why wouldn't scum kill one of BH/VE/WBG on N1? (there have been 5 deaths, I assume all 3 scum KP went through)
This is a lot of WIFOM, but I believe VE and wbg may be scum together and didn't kill BH because it would incriminate them (as the only "vets" that are still alive after N1).
Maybe BH is scum too, hell I don't know.
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On April 11 2012 11:17 gonzaw wrote:
I get the feeling Jackal was the one that shot ST.
VE, please respond to my previous post and for fucks sake comment something about my case on Toad.
I reckon it was BH 
He did respond to your case on Toad, he posted a cool dude in pink shoes. What more do you want?
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lets look at this carefully.
so 2 vigs and 3 other townies died.
ET claimed vig.
Now, wouldn't 6 people have died if ET was, indeed, a vig? Or am I overlooking something?
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I intend to gonzaw, but I'm at work right now. Believe me, if I had time my vote would have been accompanied by reasoning.
We got time bro...I'll get there.
For now, I'm signing off...be back in a couple hours.
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On April 11 2012 11:22 johnnywup wrote:
lets look at this carefully.
so 2 vigs and 3 other townies died.
ET claimed vig.
Now, wouldn't 6 people have died if ET was, indeed, a vig? Or am I overlooking something?
Where are you getting 2 vigs died? It doesn't say that. ET is claiming michaelthe, which leaves one vig unaccounted for
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Holy crap, that was a rough night.
ET, I don't hold you too accountable for that shot. I thought he was scum as well and would have done the same, in your position.
On April 11 2012 11:19 gonzaw wrote:
EBWOP:
Why wouldn't scum kill one of BH/VE/WBG on N1? (there have been 5 deaths, I assume all 3 scum KP went through)
This is a lot of WIFOM, but I believe VE and wbg may be scum together and didn't kill BH because it would incriminate them (as the only "vets" that are still alive after N1).
Maybe BH is scum too, hell I don't know.
Yes, its strange that all of the 'vets' are still alive. I'm going to put together some thoughts on all of them, as something isn't right here.
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Monarchist Defender=Vig. 2 of those died.
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@Jdub Mafia have 3 KP. I shot, so that means 4KP is accounted for. One more shot had to have come from a Vig, either scum or town aligned, for 5 to be accounted for. We don't know if Jackal or sputnik.theory managed to get their shots off as they didn't claim.
Also, TL L had 4 vigilantes for 50 players. 3 vigilantes for 30 players is a slightly higher ratio, but considering the possibility of Mafia medic or vig (L had JOAT possible, but were 0 in the game), 3 or even 4 town vigs could be possible. If you think I am lying about being a town aligned vig, then have at me.
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On April 11 2012 11:25 johnnywup wrote:
Monarchist Defender=Vig. 2 of those died.
Well shit. Bad marv, must remember to read the role stuff properly.
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marv/Nisani/prp, I need your thoughts on the previous posts I made about VE, wbg and Toad.
Hell, everybody please comment about it, even if it's a simple "Fuck you you are an idiot your case doesn't make sense", please take a stance on it and post your thoughts.
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Good game, and good luck 
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The case makes sense and I am unsure if they're disagreeing townies or bussing scum. since neither died id say scum is more likely
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On April 11 2012 11:34 gonzaw wrote:
marv/Nisani/prp, I need your thoughts on the previous posts I made about VE, wbg and Toad.
Hell, everybody please comment about it, even if it's a simple "Fuck you you are an idiot your case doesn't make sense", please take a stance on it and post your thoughts.
As it's 3:38am here, I will elaborate tomorrow. For now:
1 - Toad - very hard to see the wood for the trees with your back and forth.
2 - wbg - unsure, will have to look into your posts about him, atm I don't see why he would have risked leading the Hassy bus if he were scum
3 - VE - suspicious, especially because MG died. This is the one for sure I will be making a read on tomorrow.
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Anyways, I'm trying to see what possibilities are of us losing depending on how many misslynches we make
In the meantime:
##Vote: Toadesstern
Let's see what excuse he makes now to "wanting to kill me", probably that's the reason I wasn't killed last night (whether Toad is scum or town).
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who invited the baron harkonnen to this party wtf? good riddance.
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