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FourFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
701 Posts
April 10 2012 09:45 GMT
#901
Are you seriously implying that you support his advice but you are neutral about this major element of it
I will try to come up with some names that I'd shoot after I wake up, but if you don't agree with any of those names you're better off not shooting


I am confused
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FourFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
701 Posts
April 10 2012 09:47 GMT
#902
That's why I would've loved to carry on with my bladder thing. I will ignore you for the time being
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
April 10 2012 09:52 GMT
#903
Do you think that advice, the section I have qutoed, is bad? Just for the record. Do you think that quoted section is bad?
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FourFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
701 Posts
April 10 2012 09:53 GMT
#904
EBWOP: I did find your style and picture funny though, so I like having you in this game, generally speaking
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FourFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
701 Posts
April 10 2012 09:54 GMT
#905
I hate to repeat myself but because I respect you.. yes, for the record. The advice is bad, and coming from wbg it's superbad.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
April 10 2012 09:58 GMT
#906

On April 10 2012 15:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
To anyone who is a vig: if you don't feel comfortable shooting, I advise that you don't. I will try to come up with some names that I'd shoot after I wake up, but if you don't agree with any of those names you're better off not shooting. Vig and DT lists are usually just guidelines (though if you ignore them and shoot townies people will be mad)


What specifically is bad about this quoted section?

If someone isn't comfortable shooting at a target, they shouldn't shoot. -- sounds reasonable.

Now, WBG may try to supplement the guy's reads with his own (as I have done by suggesting S.T as a target)-- and if the vigi doesn't agree with WBG's read, he shouldn't' shoot. -- sounds reasonable.

Vigi/DT lists are just guidelines -- sounds reasonable.


?????

looks like good advice to me. I daresay you are a mistaken.
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FourFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
701 Posts
April 10 2012 10:06 GMT
#907
On April 10 2012 18:58 Blazinghand wrote:

Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 15:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
To anyone who is a vig: if you don't feel comfortable shooting, I advise that you don't. I will try to come up with some names that I'd shoot after I wake up, but if you don't agree with any of those names you're better off not shooting. Vig and DT lists are usually just guidelines (though if you ignore them and shoot townies people will be mad)


What specifically is bad about this quoted section?

If someone isn't comfortable shooting at a target, they shouldn't shoot. -- sounds reasonable.

Now, WBG may try to supplement the guy's reads with his own (as I have done by suggesting S.T as a target)-- and if the vigi doesn't agree with WBG's read, he shouldn't' shoot. -- sounds reasonable.

Vigi/DT lists are just guidelines -- sounds reasonable.


?????

looks like good advice to me. I daresay you are a mistaken.


Vigs should make up their own mind based on what they read in the thread. I think my advice for vigs, which is was "rtft", was better than wbg's. Isn't it obvious that people shouldn't shoot if they're not sure, why even go into that? The way he said it it also makes things look like he has a clue about the deveopments of this game thus far which I think he doesn't.. he, VE and gonzaw just want medics to protect them and I'm like .. what did you guys do for town? And they'll be like fourface you're crazy and dumb, and I can't even call Nefron to get back at them.

You are suggesting that ST is a vig target. I say he is a lynch target for Day2 because I want to see who dodges, makes distractions, Stalin-defends etc.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
April 10 2012 10:37 GMT
#908
4F probably also a viable vigi shot
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Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 10 2012 10:42 GMT
#909
BH, you really think hat wbg saying the bolded:


On April 10 2012 15:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
To anyone who is a vig: if you don't feel comfortable shooting, I advise that you don't. I will try to come up with some names that I'd shoot after I wake up, but if you don't agree with any of those names you're better off not shooting. Vig and DT lists are usually just guidelines (though if you ignore them and shoot townies people will be mad)


Isn't counter-productive? he's openly claimed:

On April 10 2012 10:41 wherebugsgo wrote:
to be fair I haven't played much town recently and my reads have never been that good

not since PYP:I or resurrection anyway, and those were a long time ago


Why is he telling our vigs to go with his list, and if they aren't comfortable with it, don't shoot? They should use their own judgement, not his.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 10 2012 11:12 GMT
#910
Is there a case for S-T other than that he's been superbad?

BH - welcome to Fourface.
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Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
April 10 2012 11:17 GMT
#911
On April 10 2012 12:58 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 12:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
Faithless cowards! Hassybaby!

I'm DEAD tonight. Please refer to ANY game I've been in for the last 2 months. My D1 reads are reaching Legendary status. I'm going to again request medic protection. AGAIN. PLEASE protect me tonight.

WBG makes a good target too...but PLEASE PROTECT ME TONIGHT!


Quit directing blues, scum. I'm apparently the only one who thinks as much but as soon as people like sputnik, michaelthe, and johnnywup are gone you're going to be looked at hard by everyone else.

It's funny you of all people should talk of how to act as a blue role ^^

On topic though, I still want Johnny dead, he's useless, and I'll show you why in the day.

I would also say Hassy is also very scummy. Going at WBG, are you kidding? He's one of the few useful posters right now, and probably one of the strongest town players in the game.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 10 2012 11:20 GMT
#912
On April 10 2012 09:19 Hassybaby wrote:

You would if you were pushing for a separate lynch to save a scum buddy. Gz on that btw

Hell, I may as well spell it out for you, since a number of people are having issues

1. Janaan is close to a lynch target
2. Wbg heroically appears and pushes another target
3. Toad backs him up very quicly
4. The lurkers flood in and join in
5. The town votes me to make sure we lynch tonight
6. The sane people see the late-push as scummy as hell. Everyone FoS's them like hell.

Clear? Good


Gonna have to read VE's exact case on Hassy as I'm not totally convinced. Meanwhile, I wonder how we can translate this now?

1. The townie is close to being lynched
2. wbg appears with a valid suspicion of Hassy
3+4. Others notice this is a valid lynch target.
5. Did not happen.
6. Toys out the pram
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Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 10 2012 11:21 GMT
#913
On April 10 2012 20:17 Zealos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 12:58 Risen wrote:
On April 10 2012 12:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
Faithless cowards! Hassybaby!

I'm DEAD tonight. Please refer to ANY game I've been in for the last 2 months. My D1 reads are reaching Legendary status. I'm going to again request medic protection. AGAIN. PLEASE protect me tonight.

WBG makes a good target too...but PLEASE PROTECT ME TONIGHT!


Quit directing blues, scum. I'm apparently the only one who thinks as much but as soon as people like sputnik, michaelthe, and johnnywup are gone you're going to be looked at hard by everyone else.

It's funny you of all people should talk of how to act as a blue role ^^

On topic though, I still want Johnny dead, he's useless, and I'll show you why in the day.

I would also say Hassy is also very scummy. Going at WBG, are you kidding? He's one of the few useful posters right now, and probably one of the strongest town players in the game.


On April 10 2012 10:41 wherebugsgo wrote:
to be fair I haven't played much town recently and my reads have never been that good

not since PYP:I or resurrection anyway, and those were a long time ago


He's one of the best SCUM players in the game, but his town play is historically weak. he's the anti-Palmar
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Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
April 10 2012 11:24 GMT
#914
Well, I'm not a veteran of these forums, but it seems like WBG is giving a lot of pro town reads and promoting a scum hunting atmosphere. He may well be a good scum player, but that isn't relevant.
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Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 10 2012 11:31 GMT
#915
So what do you think about his statement that I quoted, and then taking into consideration your feelings about his pro town reads?
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Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
April 10 2012 11:39 GMT
#916
Oh, you decided to not lynch me. Gee how nice of you, NOT.

Instead you do the same mistake as in the case against me and just jump on any halfassed case because you are to lazy to do some actual scumhunting. Now you are probably comforting yourself with, and justifying your silly actions by, herp derp he played bad anyways, not a big loss to town. Well you are wrong, he was playing more open and more townie then the majority of players in here.

How I read the crazy voteshifting taking place last night:

Gonzaw, well I might have been wrong about him. He was sticking his neck out to get janaan. Not a great case he made, but still. No need for scum to do this in this town.

Kenpachi - The secound voter on janaan, and without a reason. Seems like a scum non-commiting move. Have also posted nothing usefull in this game.

Jackal58 - Third voter for janaan. Also without a reason. Also seems like a scum non-commiting move. Are the scum team really lining up their players like this in a vote? Maybe, maybe not. I think those two are the ones who look most suspicious on the janaan train. Also Jackal58 haven't done shit all game long except being a crybaby about me singeling him out. He is also anti-town to such a degree that he might just be scum ("I'd defend you, but I don't feel like it").

VE - Omg flipflopping all over the place, voting here and voting there. Anything to secure the lynch. Suspicious indeed.

michaelthe and johnnywup - headless chickens voting for anything that the majority is voting for. Not scum, just bad.


Was it scum that made the janaan train go through? No, it was desperate town that did. Maybe a scum or two was on the train. Most likely early. Maybe someone late, to blend in. But they really didn't need to, because town is hurting itself so bad.

So again, thanks for saving me, only for you to be offended by me again on day 2, and misslynching me then instead...
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
April 10 2012 11:40 GMT
#917
It would mean at worst, that he is just a bad town, however, the way in which he is honest about his reads means he isn't trying to hide his agenda, which is townie play imo, and even if comparatively he isn't good town, I would still bet he's a lot better than some of the newer players here. Read: Me

It also means I didn't read the thread thoroughly enough today ^^
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Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
April 10 2012 11:43 GMT
#918
Also:

Forgive me father for I have sinned.

Priest confessor pay me a visit tonight. I want to have a chat with you. If you don't pick me. Pick the one you are most certain is town. Do not go in the fanboy trap and pick one of the big guns in the game, just because they can provide the most imput. I say the majority of them are far from someone you can be secure is town by now, and having the scum infiltrate the masoncircle would make it worse the useless.
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
April 10 2012 11:44 GMT
#919
EBWOP:

Worse than useless.
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
April 10 2012 11:45 GMT
#920
Wow, you just asked for a visit then claim that he should only go for people he can be sure of as town?
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