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Sinensis
United States2513 Posts
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
Seriously, it's like you don't even care anymore. If you were town, your misslynch would cost us the game. I guess your team would just want to try and snipe the remaining SU townie then and not even care about trying to defend themselves, etc? You may though, your chances of doing so are great, but there's also the chance you miss; and there we win. Finding the 4th scum will be harder though. @zelblade, what do you think of this? Will you vote Sinensis or look at another candidate? If so, who other players do you think are scum? @DYH: Do something dude, I think you've had enough time to read the thread and filters, tell us your thoughts. | ||
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johnnywup
United States3858 Posts
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DoYouHas
United States1140 Posts
On April 02 2012 12:51 gonzaw wrote: @DYH: Do something dude, I think you've had enough time to read the thread and filters, tell us your thoughts. Hush gonzaw. You should know from games of mine you have observed or played in that I take my time. I don't read quickly and I have other things in my life besides mafia. I'm going to get my thoughts out, and well before crunch time. | ||
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zelblade
Australia901 Posts
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
Okay then, I await both of your thoughts. Mods, isn't 5 considered majority this day? Because Sinensis only has 4 votes on him, yet he is still marked as red in the OP | ||
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froggynoddy
United Kingdom452 Posts
On April 02 2012 13:35 johnnywup wrote: Sinensis, any reason you're voting DYH other than that he replaced the very inactive ccc? The fact that he didn't post much means (in my eyes) hes probably town because if he was scum, scum would tell him to post more..but i dunno. WIFOM maybe but I don't think they'd WIFOM like that and tell someone to get modkilled/replaced lol. Its not so much WIFOM as making assumptions about someone's inactivity. It seems to me like its simply more likely for a vanilla town to get bored. not engage in the game as for scum. | ||
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froggynoddy
United Kingdom452 Posts
Regardless I think there are 2, maybe three people here that show more scumminess than simple inactivity (which as previously mentioned i.e. Jackal post means nothing or at least very little) | ||
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froggynoddy
United Kingdom452 Posts
On April 02 2012 10:56 Sinensis wrote: ##vote: DoYouHas Looks like I'm going to die trying, and I'm okay with that. This is possibly the biggest scum slip you've made so far. I would have preferred a BL lynch than you at this point just because I'm more sure of him flipping Nazi, not anymore. This is LYLO, only you know for sure whether you are town (if you are town), so to say I'm going to vote without defending myself even if it means I die (when in fact it means the end of the game, were you town) is about the scummiest reaction ever. You and BL, even maybe ET (though ET at least tried to defend himself) have far better cases than simply 'he didn't post = scum'. Am going to work, will hopefully post in three or so hours. | ||
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zelblade
Australia901 Posts
I generally agree with most of the points brought up in the case presented by sloosh. What I dont like particarly about him is his fixation on cccalf. He tunnels him all of day two, and constantly tries to push foward a cccalf lynch. What this has allowed him to do is to easily coast by, providing the barest of reads. Notice he doesnt actually hard push any of these, or do any actual analysis besides "oh they didnt attack cccalf" and "he sheeped me hes scum!". The only other things he has done besides hard push cccalf, dump some suspision here and there, is "defend" himself against nemesis, omgus a little against blzinghand, and goes off into retarded and useless discussion on how mafia managed to snipe blzing. Another thing is of course him "giving up". I dont buy it. If you are town you would still feel a sense of attachment to town, and would at the very least play it through. Look at what sloosh did even after leading a disatrious mislynch, getting heavily demotivated. Instead of "giving up", having a defeatist attitude, he quickly stands back up and pushes off his reads. Whilst I understand that not everyone might be that optimistic, his complete lack of care about the state of the game is horrendous. He KNOWS we arent going to lynch DYH today, and he is fine having to "die trying". Why? Because the game is pretty much won for him, because he knows he doesnt matter, because hes mafia. ##vote: Sinesis | ||
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zelblade
Australia901 Posts
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zelblade
Australia901 Posts
Vote for sinesis please. | ||
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froggynoddy
United Kingdom452 Posts
On April 02 2012 19:19 zelblade wrote: Assuming that sin does indeed flip mafia, I presume that that should clear DYH as town too since there was no point in starting a long term bus plan when the mafia team wasnt even close to being threatended yet. This logic is bad. We simply don't KNOW about 3C/DYH, whilst we DO have information on other players which makes them better lynch targets than DYH. That does not mean DYH isn't scum, just less likely to be with the information we have at this time. It could be just very clever scum play to tunnel an inactive scum player (WIFOM), though to me it still seems more likely that he's just picking the easiest alternative. | ||
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Hesmyrr
Canada5776 Posts
On April 02 2012 16:46 gonzaw wrote: Mods, isn't 5 considered majority this day? Because Sinensis only has 4 votes on him, yet he is still marked as red in the OP Read the rules. | ||
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froggynoddy
United Kingdom452 Posts
The majority is worked out by the total VOTERS not players i.e. those not voting do not affect the majority. (I believe this is correct :s) | ||
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froggynoddy
United Kingdom452 Posts
5. This game uses Extended Majority Lynch. That is, at the deadline the player with a majority of votes is lynched (majority = 1/2 the number of total voters, rounded down + 1). In case of tie, first player to the highest vote will be lynched. If no one has a majority then no lynch will take place. Those who not voted at the deadline will either be replaced or mod-killed. | ||
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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
I am voting sinensis for the plethora of reasons(not taking stances voting for the easiest targets, etc) I will try and be more active when I can but my wifi didn't get fixed :/ | ||
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zelblade
Australia901 Posts
On April 02 2012 21:01 froggynoddy wrote: This logic is bad. We simply don't KNOW about 3C/DYH, whilst we DO have information on other players which makes them better lynch targets than DYH. That does not mean DYH isn't scum, just less likely to be with the information we have at this time. It could be just very clever scum play to tunnel an inactive scum player (WIFOM), though to me it still seems more likely that he's just picking the easiest alternative. Yes it could be a clever scum play, but I highly doubt it. There was no reason to create a secondary wagon on a scumbuddy during day 2 when there was a perfectly fine lynch (for mafia at least) in zentor. I believe the reason why cccalf was pushed day 2 by who I believe to be scum is simply because it would have given them easy cred as well as setting up for an easy day 3 mislynch in cccalf and thus the game, although this probably failed due to what zentor did. As such, based on how day 2 played out, I highly doubt that cccalf is scum, assuming sin does flip scum of course. | ||
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zelblade
Australia901 Posts
On April 02 2012 23:16 Bluelightz wrote: ##Vote: Sinensis I am voting sinensis for the plethora of reasons(not taking stances voting for the easiest targets, etc) I will try and be more active when I can but my wifi didn't get fixed :/ Assuming sin does flip scum today and the game goes on to tomorrow, who would be your no.1 lynch targert? | ||
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zelblade
Australia901 Posts
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