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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
March 28 2012 22:01 GMT
#515
"It's literally impossible C_C is town"

"Blazinghand if you don't vote C_C you're scum"

*everyone in the game but blazinghand votes C_C*

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When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
March 28 2012 22:02 GMT
#516
You know, the least he could have done was posted a final analysis post like I asked. cccalf being replaced, by the way, does not change the fact that he is straight up lurking. I don't like him. I don't like him at all.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
March 28 2012 22:04 GMT
#519
C3, i know you're here. you've just posted. I want you to

1) give a reason, any reason, you shouldn't be shot tonight by vigi
2) provide some analysis /help to town and/or be useful in any fashion whatsoever
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
March 28 2012 22:12 GMT
#523
Alright, I'm gonna grab some lunch, but I think it's probably worth spending the time to analyze this wagon. At the moment, if C3 survives the night I'd recommend him for D2 lynch without hesitation. There's still 3 scum who hid elsewhere on the wagon, though, so I'm gonna take a look.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
March 28 2012 22:14 GMT
#525
On March 29 2012 07:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
No, there's nothing.

He wanted me dead (obv) JW and gonzaw. He wasn't helpful and he was trolling the fuck out of town.

I don't regret killing him. I just wish he'd been more helpful.


You are aware that I want JW dead, and at one point voted you. Am I also trolling the fuck out of town? Does everyone only fall into the category of "blindly follows VE" or "scum / townie worth dying?"

No, I regret that C_C was killed. I am dissapointed in his defense and his scumhunting D1, but I wasn't willing to lynch him. Could it possibly occur to you that you made a mistake in pushing his lynch?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
March 28 2012 22:17 GMT
#527
On March 29 2012 07:16 EchelonTee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2012 07:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
No, there's nothing.

He wanted me dead (obv) JW and gonzaw. He wasn't helpful and he was trolling the fuck out of town.

I don't regret killing him. I just wish he'd been more helpful.


what happened to that poetic "no townie is useless" thingamabob? i thought killing "unhelpful" townies was bad or something?


VE will say whatever it takes to keep his iron grip on the town secure.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
March 29 2012 00:44 GMT
#543
On March 29 2012 09:15 johnnywup wrote:
c^3, although he posted, is clearly trying to get around the 1 post a day/night cycle... he should be modkilled imo


I strongly disagree with this. I don't like the way 3C has played, I think it's scummy, but he has not violated the rules of the game. As stated, they are:

You must post in this thread once per day/night cycle and vote every day while you are alive. If you fail to do so, you will be modkilled.


Is 3C being scummy as hell? sure. Is he barely following the requirements? yes. but he IS following them. Maybe you could even Warn him if you as the host believe that to be valid. However, he has not failed to follow the written activity requirements, and thus should not be modkilled, in my personal opinion.

Still want a vigi to shoot him though.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
March 29 2012 03:28 GMT
#546
On March 29 2012 12:08 EchelonTee wrote:
oh and blzinghand i think you've referred to "VE" as "ET" a few times. together we make "VET" but i dont think that's what ur goin for


That's literally untrue. I challenge you to point out an occasion where this has happened.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
March 29 2012 03:36 GMT
#548
MrZ is a scummy buttbrace and should be lynched. I largely concur with your case against him as presented. I will review his filter and offer a more detailed analysis.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
March 29 2012 03:37 GMT
#549
That being said, just off hand I really don't like his noncomittal play and the sheeping without reasoning on the C_C vote. This strikes me as typical scum behavior.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
March 29 2012 04:50 GMT
#554
On March 29 2012 13:45 Sinensis wrote:
Maybe I am being overly simplistic, but I think we should lynch Blazinghand because I do not believe all 4 scum would vote for the same townie when it was certain the townie was dying anyway.


Not overly simplistic: moronical. Provide me with legitimate analysis and I'll address it. I see no reason to respond to garbage posts though.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
March 29 2012 04:52 GMT
#556
On March 29 2012 13:43 gonzaw wrote:
EBWOP: Great, I'm waiting on your analysis BH.

I still want to know what you think about Blue, I don't think you ever stated what you thought about him previously.


I haven't made any statements about Bluelightz other than noting that he typically posts unhelpful lists as town. I'll add to that: he posts almost nothing as scum.

Any analysis will be posted minutes before daybreak.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
March 29 2012 04:54 GMT
#558
On March 29 2012 13:50 EchelonTee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 16:32 Blazinghand wrote:
ET: I'll examine C_C after I finish writing up and posting the case. Thanks for bringing that to our attention.

VE mentioned C_C that time
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2012 10:13 Blazinghand wrote:
Good evening gents! I'm currently putting together a 4-course meal today.
On the prix fixe menu today:

Amuse Bouche
cccalf

Entree
JW

Plats Principaux
ET
CC

Desserts
Voting someone



might've been me that time but u never posted anything about me after that, unless i missed it


In the former, I wasn't making a case on you.

In the latter, I was considering analyzing your posting, but did not. You'll note I didn't post anything about VE in the latter case either until he went mad with power.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
March 29 2012 04:56 GMT
#560
On March 29 2012 13:55 EchelonTee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2012 13:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm taking a look at the C_C wagon. At the very least 2 and probably more scum are on the wagon.

I have a sneaking suspicion that there is definitely 3 scum on the wagon.

wait lemme do the math

....

yeah there's at least 3 scum on the wagon.


In fact, unless you think I am scum (or claimed scum, heh) there is 4 scum on that wagon.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
March 29 2012 12:59 GMT
#566
By the way, 3C, in case you haven't figured it out: you're already dead. If there's a vigi in this game, barring some horrible/lucky roleblock, he's already PMed the host and you're going to be shot at daybreak.

Between now and dawn, you have easily enough time to write some analysis and post it, or do something to help town before you're pushing up daisies. If you are town, this is what you need to do.

Your time left is limited. Use it to help town. If you're scum, well, then you might as well be silent, since you're dead anyways. Or you could take a gamble and hope that there aren't any vigis in a 10/4 closed setup.

Your call. But if by some stretch of logic, you're town, do what CC couldn't and be useful before you bite the dust.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
March 29 2012 13:02 GMT
#567
"damn BH you getting all harshies on trip c"

No, you're wrong, it is he who has been harsh on us with his travesty of a filter.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
March 29 2012 16:50 GMT
#572
On March 30 2012 00:15 froggynoddy wrote:
People should stop talking to C_C, he's out of the game.

Am in class until an hour before deadline so hopefully will post my thoughts just before in case I yet again die N1.

@ BH: What should we do should if we don't have any Vigs? I feel like there are juicier scum targets than him. I guess he'll have 48hrs to defend himself.



If right now D2 were coming to an end, my vote would be on 3C. I suspect he will post a great deal between now and the end of D2, though.

He better.

In the first game I played here on TL, Student Mafia, we made the mistake of having a day entirely without discussion since we thought a guy was "for sure" scum. It was an overwhelming wagon, and there was little to no discussion. We managed to recover from such an unproductive day, but we were lucky. Lynching someone without discussion, without dissent, is dangerous.

A day without discussion is a day that's bad for the town. Assuming that 3C isn't killed tonight, he is not "automatically" the lynch tomorrow. There are a number of things that should happen in the next 48 hours:

1) Some counter wagons should get started. People should formulate cases and try to scumhunt and lynch scum. This will help generate evidence and keep the town discussion going.
2) 3C will become more active, and post reads and push cases. If during Day 2 he does not do this, he will certainly be lynched. He can't really "defend" himself since he didn't do anything Day 1. Regardless of the truth of the matter, he'll say "Sorry, I was busy." Statements like that are completely meaningless to me, because that is what scum or town would say. The only defense he can make is to be an asset to the town.
3) Both #1 and #2 will generate discussion. 3C is not an autolynch tomorrow.

I do not believe in autolynches.

I believe in arguing and finding the truth via discussion. Should I come to believe 3C is town (and I do not currently believe this to be the case), I will argue to defend him even if I am the only one doing so. The only thing that matters is that town players be fearless, perceptive, and willing to discuss and argue. It is for this reason that I found VE's terror tactics abhorrent and it is for this reason that I will argue my cases and push my reads regardless of what people say about me.

It is the only way to play and find Truth.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
March 29 2012 16:56 GMT
#574
I'm absolutely certain you won't eat a vig bullet tonight VE. The difference between you and 3C is that a 3C lynch would have some serious issues generating the sort of discussion that's useful for finding scumleads. The case on him currently is "this guy is literally lurking as hard as possible without being modkilled" which doesn't lead to a good wagon discussion. The case on you is more complex and will force people into camps.

A D2 in which we discuss a VE lynch (or really any lynch but a 3C lynch) is a D2 that generates tons of evidence, with a chance of lynching scum. A D2 in which we discuss a 3C lynch does not generate nearly as much evidence (at least, not so far, given 3C's filter).

This could change if 3C steps up his game, but as it stands, a reasonable vigi who suspects both VE and 3C of being scum would shoot 3C.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
March 29 2012 17:00 GMT
#576
On March 30 2012 01:59 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 01:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
I can assure you that your time should be better spent on people other than me c^3. Site meta dictates that I'll probably be shot tonight, and common sense says that you'll probably be shot tonight. Any time spent analyzing whether or not I was maliciously manipulating town yesterday is likely completely wasted.

Just FYI

Do something useful.

Why is such discussion / analysis wasted? How can you be so sure you will get shot, and if you are why aren't you spending the rest of this night fleshing out your reads?


Also this.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
March 29 2012 17:09 GMT
#580
Rofl VE you're an utterly worthless townie with literally no credit. Why would scum shoot you?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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