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Gossemerr
United States195 Posts
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DoYouHas
United States1140 Posts
Night 2 ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/P4fAt.jpg) The field was narrowing for the ChronoCorp lab crew. The confirmed status of 3 of their number gave everyone a new perspective from which to look at the information they had gained in their interviews. Armed with this new insight, the town confidently chose two possible candidates, Nova_Terra and Seviro. Both were given the chance to clear the air and defend themselves. At the end of the day the voting was unanimous, Seviro would have to die. The crew knew they had got it right this time, they were well on their way to avoiding the end of the universe via crashing into the beginning of time. Already here and there a smile could be seen, a congratulatory pat on the back. Finally, in this moment of anticipation, the paranoia that had gripped the crew for so long eased just a bit. Seviro knew struggling would be futile and allowed himself to be led to the makeshift gallows. He held his head high, even as the cable noose was placed around his neck. His eyes held only contempt for those in front of him and he spoke not a word as he was pulled into the air. Even up to the moment he went limp, Seviro stared back at his accusers and spoke not a word. Seviro the Vanilla Townie has been lynched. Final Vote Count + Show Spoiler + Seviro (9): Nova_Terra (0): michaelthe (0): It is now Night 2. Day 3 will start in approximately 24 hours. Please PM any night actions to BOTH GMarshal and myself. The deadline for night actions is 03:00 GMT (+00:00). Any actions PMed after that deadline will be ignored even if the day post is not yet up. | ||
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Gossemerr
United States195 Posts
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BlueyD
Canada437 Posts
I wish he'd defended himself like he did in his last post earlier, instead of self-voting... | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12970 Posts
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12970 Posts
Pretty sure town: Gossemerr, virtu 50/50: BlueyD, Ninja4ever Leaning scum: Nova_Terra Almost sure scum: Michaelthe That's how I view it at this point. And now I'm going to need to catch some sleep. | ||
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Gossemerr
United States195 Posts
Mementoss, the apparently super green townie On March 26 2012 21:38 Mementoss wrote: If we lynch Seviro and Seviro flips town, Michael would be highly suspicious and so would Nova Terra. If we lynch Seviro and Seviro flips scum, Michael would be off my radar, and Nova would still remain suspicious. Mementoss did this EXACT SAME thing last game. For those of you whom didn't read it: He was a scum that game, and he basically said this "either Seviro (who was also in that game, was town) or Gossemerr (me, was also town) are scum, but NOT both." Basically it meant that if we followed his logic then we would lose two townies. It so happened that we lynched Seviro and the game ended because of mod kills, but you all should get my point. I don't like this shit. Its like adding connections where they should not be, in order to influence votes. Here look at this earlier quote: On March 22 2012 23:38 Mementoss wrote: Another thing I learned from last game and I think Nova_Terra will agree with me is, making connections (or anti-connections) between players is absolutely useless until the town flips its first scum. Keep track of it for all means, just no need to post it until scum is flipped and it can be used with case analysis (can't stand alone as a case). Cause you can literally find these connections between most players, its just the nature of the game, and the town trying to work as a team. He clearly states that we should not be adding connections above, very clearly actually. Also he did this same thing last game at the same time, when the next day would be a lynch or lose situation. If we lynch wrong D3 we lose already, unless there are more blues (but I don't think so as there was only one last game). notice how, Seviro flipped town.. If he is scum, this would be another smart play to make sure the game is won. All of us remaining town really need to read and analyze tonight. If you are scared to post because you might be murdered, just post with like <5 minutes left or whatever before the night post (I will probably do the same in case I die tomorrow as well). ##FoS: Mementoss | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12970 Posts
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michaelthe
United States359 Posts
2.) 3.) Artanis[Xp] 4.) 5.) virtu 6.) Nova_Terra 7.) michaelthe 8.) 9.) Gossemerr 10.) Ninja4ever. 11.) BlueyD 12.) Crazy. Self voting and going afk made it look clearly like a mafia move, but there will be plenty of time for that later. We will most likely be at 4 Town 3 Mafia tomorrow (pending vet/doc chance). This is a MYLO tomorrow, and will be even if we hit a mafia each lynch, assuming they get a townie each night. Forget single cases and single suspicions. We need to each go over everyone with a fine tooth comb. I have a busy day tomorrow, but will try and get something out before the end of night. | ||
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Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
On March 27 2012 12:24 Gossemerr wrote: I need to post something before I go away for a while, as it REALLY bothers me: Mementoss, the apparently super green townie Mementoss did this EXACT SAME thing last game. For those of you whom didn't read it: He was a scum that game, and he basically said this "either Seviro (who was also in that game, was town) or Gossemerr (me, was also town) are scum, but NOT both." Basically it meant that if we followed his logic then we would lose two townies. It so happened that we lynched Seviro and the game ended because of mod kills, but you all should get my point. I don't like this shit. Its like adding connections where they should not be, in order to influence votes. Here look at this earlier quote: He clearly states that we should not be adding connections above, very clearly actually. Also he did this same thing last game at the same time, when the next day would be a lynch or lose situation. If we lynch wrong D3 we lose already, unless there are more blues (but I don't think so as there was only one last game). notice how, Seviro flipped town.. If he is scum, this would be another smart play to make sure the game is won. All of us remaining town really need to read and analyze tonight. If you are scared to post because you might be murdered, just post with like <5 minutes left or whatever before the night post (I will probably do the same in case I die tomorrow as well). ##FoS: Mementoss I'm town. Right now my opinion is that I could be off that they were one of them were scum. But I had more of a feeling Nova was scum than Seviro, but with Artanis (one of the most influencal players) keeping his Seviro vote, Seviro actually voting himself and running off, and virtu a player who would not be posting all voted Seviro. Seviro voting himself as town was a really stupid move. It basically made it impossible to get a majority on Nova if we wanted it. He made it seem as he wasn't going to post before nights end then made a good post before he died. -_-. If Nova was scum, with 3 mafia in play, Seviro, +3 mafia, + virtu. Made a majority for him almost no matter what. How is the above a connection? I did not connect 2 players, I basically said what information we could get from the flip. As for the lynch, I actually think going for a Nova lynch in a lynch right or lose situation is a really risky move. And would rather go for these new suspicions from the flip/Seviro's confirmed town last dieing words. All WIFOM though not a strong case leads me back to michael. Will go into this further later. From my experience in mini's the 3 person mafia team usually has the following team composition: The Controller (Tries to control the town's opinion) - This case Michael (SNMM VIII - Mementoss) The Semi-Contributer (Pops in with a opinion when its convienent) - This case BlueyD>Nova>>Gossemer (SNMM VIII - Janaan) The Semi-Lurker (Barely ever posts, but posts just enough) - This case Ninja4ever or Virtu (SNMM VIII - Cosine) Also I underlined your last opinion, how bout no. That is a scummy statement. We want people to keep the discussion up or the town is doomed. Don't worry about dieing, worry about saying something that leads to a scum kill after your death. Honestly, I don't think anyone should be worried about dieing. There are only two possible mafia kills in my eyes. 1. Artanis 2. Mementoss Probably not me anymore because I am thought of as less green than before by a couple townies. Lets not worry about confirming town, lets worry about nailing scum. Post your best analysis tonight, post what you think will get a kill tomorrow. We can still win this with good play, hopefully virtu was town and we get a good replacement. After the first one it should only get easier. | ||
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Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
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Nova_Terra
Switzerland1190 Posts
This is ridiculous. He should have done something other than self vote...his best case would have been to post vs michaelthe and vote him. I am completely in agreement with seviro's so called "will". Michaelthe first thing, and then its quite probable that BlueyD is mafia. He made an early vote on seviro, and then sat back and didnt do very much, except for late into the voting period where he notes that he is unsure how good seviro's self vote was for the town, and that he was skeptical of michaelthe (which was a common thought at the time. he isnt getting very involved with important decisions yet, and therefore after michael he is my first suspicion. | ||
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Nova_Terra
Switzerland1190 Posts
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Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
Alright off of the game balance talk, Nova, if you are town. Please step it up today. I want to hear some good analysis from you. As of late you have at least been putting logic into your play. Make your best analysis you ever made ever. We need everyone on board asap. That being said, I plan on doing a huge post later today on my thoughts on this game. Hopefully I can get some good analysis, and good cases and figure it out. | ||
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Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
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virtu
United Kingdom147 Posts
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Nova_Terra
Switzerland1190 Posts
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Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
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Nova_Terra
Switzerland1190 Posts
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BlueyD
Canada437 Posts
Look at who we have active as well: Mementoss, Artanis, You, Seviro, Nova. We can get the guaranteed kill on Nova easily. Goss and Ninja are both afk. Goss (who had his vote on Nova) was not afk at the moment this post was made. He had posted just 40 minutes before, commenting on michaelthe’s voteswitch. AND MICHAEL ACTUALLY REPLIED TO GOSS, so he can’t have missed the fact that he was there. But after that, it’s convenient to turn around and tell me Goss is afk… So what we have here is a nice little lie! I don’t know how the vote switch relates to motive, though. If michaelthe is scum, then he knows Seviro is town, yet he’s trying to direct the lynch in the other direction, towards Nova. The least risky move for mafia, by far, would have been to just stick with that lynch. This said, if michaelthe is scum, then Nova is probably townie, and he’s been more threatening to michaelthe than Seviro has so that might be the motive? In terms of information, this is a good lynch – but we can NOT afford a lynch based on acquiring information here. Still I think the case stands on its own. ------------ Since I appear to be under heavy suspicion, I’ll comment on Seviro’s last post, which I wish he’d done a few hours earlier instead of self-lynching, because there was a lot more effort in it. I still think my analysis of his ‘defense’ of Rise was all right: Sure, you can point out places where he’s saying ‘I think he’s townie’ without real justification or defense of the argument, and others where he’s saying “give him time”, which I don’t call a defense because whoever put out a vote against Rise at that point still had the option to unvote later on – everyone was already giving him time until the first lynch, and many were saying “I find Rise suspicious but I’m gonna give him a chance”, like Seviro was. Then Seviro says: Hell i'm like the only one that is trying to defend him. I don’t think I should get any scum points for pointing these things out… It’s pointed out by others that I was more useful at the beginning than at the end, to which I reply that I get home/wake up and the best cases are already written by other people, so all I can do is add to them, so I review the thread and filters and point out what I find, which most of the time turns out to be against someone who has a case on them already. I can’t really point out anything against Artanis (confirmed townie) or mementoss (whose play has been very green, so not a lot to point out), or our inactives like Virtu, so yeah my commentary fell to Goss, Nova, michaelthe (see above) and the late Seviro most of the time – and surprise! They were the ones with cases on their back. When I agree with a case I just say so, no need to clutter up the thread. | ||
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