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On March 23 2012 00:55 zelblade wrote:
Gosh I cant sleep >_<
Kita being companion cube might be possible, but theres another possibility you guys are missing out on.
The companion cube seems to be controlled by scum, and its highly likely that they could have posted that on purpose simply to incriminate kita. I highly doubt that hes going to make such a hugeee slip, and look at what palmar did when he realised he derped. He sort of explained it immediatedly upon realising that he posted on a wrong account. I agree this is wierd and want to hear kita on this matter, but we should avoid jumping to conclusions.
Uh, what? What makes you think that CC is scum aligned? It hasn't done anything yet, other than be amazing (by the virtue of being Companion Cube. <3 ). Until it does something, I don't think we can analyze the significance of this apparent slip up.
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On March 22 2012 00:26 Nisani201 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 00:01 Adam4167 wrote:Nisani, when I compare your filter in this game to your filter in NMM1 ( Nisani in NMM1), its like two different people. Nisani in NMM1 is also lurking and has a small filter, but you can see he genuinely cares about the direction the game is heading. He is also supremely confident in his reads. Now comparing that to this game, you seem disinterested, your reads are lacking in confidence, and you seem to be happy just to let things unfold however they do. Can we expect a case that requires some form of actual effort? such as: This CaseYou played well in NMM1, even if you were lynched by town. If that nisani doesn't come back soon, I will happily vote to see you swing. I am off to bed, its 1:30am here. Ill set my alarm so I am here before the lynch to put my vote somewhere meaningful. My play in this game is different for a lot of reasons. Mainly because I'm more active in mini games because the thread is shorter. Also, there's not much to talk about this game-- as I've mentioned earlier, this is pretty much a repeat of Day 1 because it's impossible to draw information from Drazerk's lynch. Recently I've been trying to avoid analyses in big games because most of them suffer from confirmation bias; it's very easy to take anyone's filter and twist what they say to get an analysis (read TL Mafia XLII if you want to see a game where this happened a lot). On Dirk: he's posted his read, which is what I was looking for before, but the analysis seems butchered like I mentioned above and it seems like he picked a random filter and pointed at random flaws in it. I'm going to trust that Palmar revealed himself by accident and it wasn't a trick to get us to pull votes off of him. I'll keep my vote on him for now, but I'd like to see a votecount to see if a switch to Bluelightz is still viable. I would be ok with lynching him instead of Dirk.
At that time the vote count was:
Lightz 5
Dirk 3 (including himself and Sinani)
Kenpachi 2
Kita 1
Ghost 1
Wiggles 1
When Nisani voted he tied the vote count 2-2. He MUST have seen that this is a close one. You make a big post like that and ask for a vote count? I want you guys to look at the voting thread around 00:00 march 22. Just take a brief glimps, 10 seconds, you immediately see that the vote is nowhere near decided. What you don’t see is a stong mayority for dirk. The last 5 votes at that time were NOT dirk. This is bullshit.
You mention that the only reason that you don’t voteswitch is that you don’t know if a switch is viable? With like 10 hours to go? This is already not towny. And you take the time and make a larger post like you did (which took at least 5 mins to write) and never mind to justify your reason by looking at the voting thread for 10 seconds? Really?
I don’t buy it. You just want to avoid lynching your GF.
Your posts have been oneliners all over the place, your accusations are week. Your answer to me calling you a vig target is “Why am I a target” and then you disappear again?
You say you are suspicious of lightz early on?
On March 21 2012 09:33 Nisani201 wrote:
Kenpachi you are right. Bluelightz does not look town either. And in the past, I've found that chainsawing Sinani has been really useful for finding scum so he goes on my scum list.
I still want to lynch Dirk though.
This is the only time you mention him. That’s randomly dropping a name. That’s not pushing or anything. No one even read that. The last line is your real intention.
Remember this post if I die tonight. Nisani needs to be vigged or lynched.
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I dont know, someone mentioned something about it possibly being scum alinged due to the scum team being apeture stuff. And I highly highly doubt town would need a smurf. Mafia having it makes alot more sense imo. I personally wouldnt use the cube at all if I was it (and was town) since it would hide a bit of informtion from town, though I guess it could be used to confirm ones own role, I really see no point in having the cube as town, unless it has a vote or some sort of extra influence on the game of course.
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And yes I agree nisani should die.
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Btw the cube crap was in response to ghost.
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United States255 Posts
I played with Sbrubbles in newbie mini mafia V and he was a medic and blueslipped there, I don't see anything encouraging with his play in this game. The late votes on already dead people make him look really shady and he hasn't contributed like others have stated. I would be okay with a Sbrubbles lynch today unless something big happens with the Wiggles case.
RE: Companion Cube. I assume it was obtained from the Black Market since velinath posted this soon after the CC showed up.
On March 22 2012 09:03 Velinath wrote:
Companion Cube is an unlynchable smurf of someone else in the thread with no voting power.
If Velinath hasn't bought it (he hasn't claimed to) then we can safely assume that it is someone from the scum/sleeper faction simply based on the nature of the "Black Market." The fact that the cube who is supposed to be unkillable smurf is trying to implicate kitaman27 is unsettling, but I would ignore anything it says no matter how cute it is. The cake is a lie.
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EBWOP: I thought the cube was unkillable but apparently it's only unlynchable but why would waste a vig shot on a smurf, so yeah, just going to be disinformation from the CC.
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it's a smurf with no powers.. why are we even talking about this? what are the upsides?
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Because it claimed kita. I agree that we should just ignore it though.
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It's interesting because the CC is pushing against wiggles, I haven't looked much into wiggles but will definitely do.
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On March 23 2012 01:13 Jayjay54 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 00:26 Nisani201 wrote:On March 22 2012 00:01 Adam4167 wrote:Nisani, when I compare your filter in this game to your filter in NMM1 ( Nisani in NMM1), its like two different people. Nisani in NMM1 is also lurking and has a small filter, but you can see he genuinely cares about the direction the game is heading. He is also supremely confident in his reads. Now comparing that to this game, you seem disinterested, your reads are lacking in confidence, and you seem to be happy just to let things unfold however they do. Can we expect a case that requires some form of actual effort? such as: This CaseYou played well in NMM1, even if you were lynched by town. If that nisani doesn't come back soon, I will happily vote to see you swing. I am off to bed, its 1:30am here. Ill set my alarm so I am here before the lynch to put my vote somewhere meaningful. My play in this game is different for a lot of reasons. Mainly because I'm more active in mini games because the thread is shorter. Also, there's not much to talk about this game-- as I've mentioned earlier, this is pretty much a repeat of Day 1 because it's impossible to draw information from Drazerk's lynch. Recently I've been trying to avoid analyses in big games because most of them suffer from confirmation bias; it's very easy to take anyone's filter and twist what they say to get an analysis (read TL Mafia XLII if you want to see a game where this happened a lot). On Dirk: he's posted his read, which is what I was looking for before, but the analysis seems butchered like I mentioned above and it seems like he picked a random filter and pointed at random flaws in it. I'm going to trust that Palmar revealed himself by accident and it wasn't a trick to get us to pull votes off of him. I'll keep my vote on him for now, but I'd like to see a votecount to see if a switch to Bluelightz is still viable. I would be ok with lynching him instead of Dirk. At that time the vote count was: Lightz 5 Dirk 3 (including himself and Sinani) Kenpachi 2 Kita 1 Ghost 1 Wiggles 1 When Nisani voted he tied the vote count 2-2. He MUST have seen that this is a close one. You make a big post like that and ask for a vote count? I want you guys to look at the voting thread around 00:00 march 22. Just take a brief glimps, 10 seconds, you immediately see that the vote is nowhere near decided. What you don’t see is a stong mayority for dirk. The last 5 votes at that time were NOT dirk. This is bullshit. You mention that the only reason that you don’t voteswitch is that you don’t know if a switch is viable? With like 10 hours to go? This is already not towny. And you take the time and make a larger post like you did (which took at least 5 mins to write) and never mind to justify your reason by looking at the voting thread for 10 seconds? Really? I don’t buy it. You just want to avoid lynching your GF. Your posts have been oneliners all over the place, your accusations are week. Your answer to me calling you a vig target is “Why am I a target” and then you disappear again? You say you are suspicious of lightz early on? Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 09:33 Nisani201 wrote:
Kenpachi you are right. Bluelightz does not look town either. And in the past, I've found that chainsawing Sinani has been really useful for finding scum so he goes on my scum list.
I still want to lynch Dirk though. This is the only time you mention him. That’s randomly dropping a name. That’s not pushing or anything. No one even read that. The last line is your real intention. Remember this post if I die tonight. Nisani needs to be vigged or lynched.
I skimmed the voting thread. The fact is that there was a lot more discussion in the thread about DIrk than Bluelightz, so I thought that he was more likely to get lynched then Bluelightz.
And I wasn't randomly dropping a name in that other post. What more do you want than "he goes on my scum list"?
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It wouldnt be that interesting if it wasnt for the fact that what it posted seemed like it was from kita.
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On March 23 2012 01:31 Nisani201 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 01:13 Jayjay54 wrote:On March 22 2012 00:26 Nisani201 wrote:On March 22 2012 00:01 Adam4167 wrote:Nisani, when I compare your filter in this game to your filter in NMM1 ( Nisani in NMM1), its like two different people. Nisani in NMM1 is also lurking and has a small filter, but you can see he genuinely cares about the direction the game is heading. He is also supremely confident in his reads. Now comparing that to this game, you seem disinterested, your reads are lacking in confidence, and you seem to be happy just to let things unfold however they do. Can we expect a case that requires some form of actual effort? such as: This CaseYou played well in NMM1, even if you were lynched by town. If that nisani doesn't come back soon, I will happily vote to see you swing. I am off to bed, its 1:30am here. Ill set my alarm so I am here before the lynch to put my vote somewhere meaningful. My play in this game is different for a lot of reasons. Mainly because I'm more active in mini games because the thread is shorter. Also, there's not much to talk about this game-- as I've mentioned earlier, this is pretty much a repeat of Day 1 because it's impossible to draw information from Drazerk's lynch. Recently I've been trying to avoid analyses in big games because most of them suffer from confirmation bias; it's very easy to take anyone's filter and twist what they say to get an analysis (read TL Mafia XLII if you want to see a game where this happened a lot). On Dirk: he's posted his read, which is what I was looking for before, but the analysis seems butchered like I mentioned above and it seems like he picked a random filter and pointed at random flaws in it. I'm going to trust that Palmar revealed himself by accident and it wasn't a trick to get us to pull votes off of him. I'll keep my vote on him for now, but I'd like to see a votecount to see if a switch to Bluelightz is still viable. I would be ok with lynching him instead of Dirk. At that time the vote count was: Lightz 5 Dirk 3 (including himself and Sinani) Kenpachi 2 Kita 1 Ghost 1 Wiggles 1 When Nisani voted he tied the vote count 2-2. He MUST have seen that this is a close one. You make a big post like that and ask for a vote count? I want you guys to look at the voting thread around 00:00 march 22. Just take a brief glimps, 10 seconds, you immediately see that the vote is nowhere near decided. What you don’t see is a stong mayority for dirk. The last 5 votes at that time were NOT dirk. This is bullshit. You mention that the only reason that you don’t voteswitch is that you don’t know if a switch is viable? With like 10 hours to go? This is already not towny. And you take the time and make a larger post like you did (which took at least 5 mins to write) and never mind to justify your reason by looking at the voting thread for 10 seconds? Really? I don’t buy it. You just want to avoid lynching your GF. Your posts have been oneliners all over the place, your accusations are week. Your answer to me calling you a vig target is “Why am I a target” and then you disappear again? You say you are suspicious of lightz early on? On March 21 2012 09:33 Nisani201 wrote:
Kenpachi you are right. Bluelightz does not look town either. And in the past, I've found that chainsawing Sinani has been really useful for finding scum so he goes on my scum list.
I still want to lynch Dirk though. This is the only time you mention him. That’s randomly dropping a name. That’s not pushing or anything. No one even read that. The last line is your real intention. Remember this post if I die tonight. Nisani needs to be vigged or lynched. I skimmed the voting thread. The fact is that there was a lot more discussion in the thread about DIrk than Bluelightz, so I thought that he was more likely to get lynched then Bluelightz. And I wasn't randomly dropping a name in that other post. What more do you want than "he goes on my scum list"?
you skimmed through the voting thread? orly? and 3/13 votes splashed so hard into your eyes that you were overwhelmed? No sir, I don't buy it.
I don't care what you said in that 2 lines. But it was a two line post and it ended with "I still want to lynch dirk though. " Not good enough.
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...and that's why you think I'm scum?
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On March 23 2012 01:38 Nisani201 wrote:
...and that's why you think I'm scum?
yea that came totally out of the blue, I never called you scum before and your filter looks town as shit.
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Just because I wanted to lynch Dirk more than Bluelightz doesn't mean I'm scum. I'm not trying to take credit for the Bluelightz lynch. Would you still think I were scum if I had kept my vote on Dirk?
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On March 23 2012 01:40 Nisani201 wrote:
Just because I wanted to lynch Dirk more than Bluelightz doesn't mean I'm scum. I'm not trying to take credit for the Bluelightz lynch. Would you still think I were scum if I had kept my vote on Dirk?
I wanted to kill you before and now I caught you lying.
Your defense on somebody else's post on you was something like I was suspicious of blue before, so you try to get towncreds for that.
yes of course, I'd still think you're scum, if you had your vote on dirk. But the excuse for not voting lightz was a blunt lie and that's why I am even more certain now.
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Alright, finally got a computer.
Don't trust Companion Cube. It was thrown into the incinerator once, and I died an awful lot of times because of it. And that goddamn energy ball.
Either way, if the scum team is aperture-related(like the turret), it would make sense that the companion cube is actually a scum smurf. Besides, if it's a mafia-treestump, the one posting from it is Blazinghand. It would even make sense: he could take any shape he wanted, and a cute thing died bringing in another cute thing. Come on, those turrets are cute!
Anyways, I don't think we should trust it. The fact that its posts are spaced and it hasn't tried to fix the "kita slip" makes me think it was a fakeslip, and that it is not kita at all. That doesn't make kita innocent, but at very least not CC-aligned.
The fact that it is pushing against Wiggles - if you follow the train of thought that wiggles and CC are both scums - could just mean it is bussing him.
the CC posting something other than "<3" kind of posts makes me think we should also worry about ATLAS and p-bot. Where are they?
Also, keep going JJ.
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