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Maverick32x
Profile Joined April 2011
United States310 Posts
March 19 2012 21:05 GMT
#1141
On March 20 2012 05:48 Kenpachi wrote:
I win with Town.


Now what are your other win conditions I wonder...? I don't think you're Chell.. in fact, I think you're one of the 3 'beings' that was pointed out in Draz's death..
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blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2400 Posts
March 19 2012 21:09 GMT
#1142
I don't think that Kenpachi is one of the beings, imo they all have the wincond to kill eachother. But Kenpachi wants to kill Glados all the time.
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Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States638 Posts
March 19 2012 21:10 GMT
#1143
I just woke up and was at work all weekend. I have finals this week, so my activity level might be a bit low. I still feel I will be able to contribute and find scum.




Dirk is probably scum. He wants to lynch Foolishness who I think is very town. It is definitely OMGUS and he hasn't really provided any enlightening material. He is AtEing pretty hard to not be shot tonight, instead of actually scum hunting.

Bluelightz is still suspicious to me. His filter is different than other games. A lot of one liners and not as many bad cases as usual. Honestly I have played with Bluelightz enough now I think I can kind of read him. This game I think he is scum. Bluelightz has buddied with Dirk a bit, then he is setting him self up for a soft bus. I find it odd how Bluelightz singled out Sinani from the beginning. Maybe it was just luck or maybe Bluelightz is bussing again.

Sinani is another scum read for me. His complete flip on the Drazerk lynch bothers me. He has contributed anything concrete. Just look at Sinani's filter and this isn't a hard read.

The interactions between all three of Dirk/Blue/Sinani have brought me to this conclusion. I am using meta to read Bluelightz as well. I just don't see Bluelightz calling out Sinani like that so early on without knowing something others dont. Dirk is pretty obvious scum as well.




gonzaw is interesting this game. I have only played with him once before when he was scum. I don't see that gonzaw right now. He is very active, but his incessant amount of questions bothers me. Right now I am leaning town on gonzaw, but he might possibly be third party. I dont think gonzaw is scum.




Zephirdd is going to push on me tomorrow, so I will just refute it now and to give us more time tomorrow to hunt real scum.

On March 19 2012 01:32 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2012 17:58 Paperscraps wrote:
Foolishness is a boss. Definitely a good target to be saved tonight.

Velinath continues to impress upon me he should be elected.

I am also ok with lurkers being shot in the night. Just make sure you claim before you do so.




On March 18 2012 17:40 Bluelightz wrote:
On March 18 2012 17:33 Dirk Hardpec wrote:
Why are people giving me their votes?



What is this... I don't even...



On March 18 2012 17:51 Bluelightz wrote:
Seriously Dirk, step up, like others said your analysis post is fluffy as derp and your not helping town in any way.


This looks like buddying to me. Bluelightz or Dirk are a good lynch. I will keep my vote on Bluelightz for my reasons stated earlier.


> Directs blues
> Asks for blue claims

Yeah, I'm electing BH and I got my scum right here.

[b]##Elect: BH[/b
##VoteLynch: Paperscraps



Extras for his case:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=319120&user=62048

> Unnecessary clarifications
> Finds a lurker to park his vote in
> Keeps saying how good Velinath is, even though it was suggested by the one player he wants to lynch
> Wants to lynch Bluelightz because Bluelightz is Bluelightz; Never has a solid target

And most importantly, a very low activity as to be very careful with his own posts.

If anything, I'd say Veli is scumbuddy with Paper; However I am not sure about that at this point. Still, it's pretty clear that all Paper has done is to try to buddy up with a relatively well accepted player(as in, many people want him elected) while staying wishy-washy with his lynch targets. Oh, and of course, blue fishing.



Honestly I thought Zephridd was joking or something, because the arguments against me were so bad. Hence why I didnt respond.

1. I said Foolishness would be a good save, because he is pro-town and has great reads so far. I don't control the blues, but if I can help them save an asset to town I will.
2. Completely misinterpreted my asking for vigs to claim their shot before shooting as role fishing. This point is so bad I don't know what to think.
3. The second part of his post isn't objective at all. I took my vote off Dirk when he posted and put it on some one I thought was scum. The rest is just weird conjecture on how Velinath is scum, so I must be scum and I am buddying a "well-accepted" player. Velinath is well-accepted for a reason. Use your head bro.

Low-activity does not equate scum. I have explained why I haven't been super active. I have however provided more thoughtful posts than half the players in this game.

With all that being said I think Zephridd is town for now. (LOL at him calling me noob/town after making this case against me, haha. Dat irony)

"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
March 19 2012 21:17 GMT
#1144
On March 20 2012 05:48 Kenpachi wrote:
I win with Town.

Does this mean that you cannot win alone?
You're 100% positive that the hosts are glados and that it's not actually a role in the set up? I'd like to ask why, but I'm not going to cross lines.
If there were one person in the game that you had to put all your faith in and give them your vote to control, who would it be? Feel free to leave that til the day, if you want.

There are a lot of players I've never seen before and I think that's throwing me off a bit more than normal. Really would like to know who dirkwhateverhisnameis is. The thing with my reads is that most of my more solid reads are town, and because of that, I don't think they're entirely necessary. Someone I intend to keep my eye on, after blazing's post, is that zelblade fellow.
I'm intending to keep my eye on gonzaw as well. Any recommended reads of his past games? I've never played with him that I can remember.

On March 20 2012 06:05 Maverick32x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 05:48 Kenpachi wrote:
I win with Town.


Now what are your other win conditions I wonder...? I don't think you're Chell.. in fact, I think you're one of the 3 'beings' that was pointed out in Draz's death..


May I ask why you think kenpachi is one of those three? I really can't see how you drew that conclusion.


I'm really sorry this weekend hasn't been as active as I'd hoped. Having a bit of an issue that I'm trying desperately to resolve. Off to make cookies with him so we can heal. Again, my apologies.
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Maverick32x
Profile Joined April 2011
United States310 Posts
March 19 2012 21:28 GMT
#1145
@Lanai
I came to that conclusion through the following:

On March 17 2012 11:16 Kenpachi wrote:
Catch is, i cant reveal my name or Superpower or i get modkilled.
But to be honest, i dont understand the context of my Role PM and it doesnt have anything to do with Portal except killing GLaDOS (Meaning GLaDOS will die, gonzaw)


At first I thought this was just more spam.. however....

On March 17 2012 15:48 Kenpachi wrote:
its not standard mafia game. i was referring to the team set up (language sucks) and Wiggles nailed it in his post.

I cant give more info than i get the superpower if the conditions are met and the restrictions are followed (or ill be modkilled).
so srs vote glados. i dont see how it could hurt town at all. What more could i offer? oh i have an item. ill give it to the election winner regardless of who it is if i reach majority for killing GLaDOS.
nothing else i can do except get trust. But im more than capable of using analysis when im town and focused.
But thats all words, the sooner we kill GLaDOS, the better for town itll become. I am indeed BEGGING for you guys to comply to my wish but if i cant get majority, there is no loss involved because im completely town oriented.


I get the feeling that there are a couple 'teams' that exist.. we have the Sleeper Agents.. and we also appear to have this "beings" group.... the "Beings" clearly aren't aligned together, since Draz's wincon was to kill one of his fellow beings.... I'm wondering if his wincon is similar?

On March 17 2012 15:51 Kenpachi wrote:
BH lets be assholes together. we will conquer town with the self proclaimed 3rd party
Blazing Kenpachi Party. our motto would be familiar to the Italian guy you know and love

[image loading]
Me ne frego

Our Win condition? we win with town


This post- though possible in jest.. also made me consider what was really going on.. another person alluded to this as well and it got brushed under the rug... "People from the Past" .. hmm!!

And generally speaking, he is just a jerk to everyone else, which makes me think that he views others as dispensable and he doesn't care about 'helping them' since he has his own objectives...

Also- @ Rayzhor- I realize I'm talking about third party, which contradicts my last post- but I figured I'd answer this question!!
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5335 Posts
March 19 2012 21:29 GMT
#1146
On March 19 2012 09:00 gonzaw wrote:
Zephird: I'm waiting for your responses as well.

Kenpachi: Can you give reasoning behind those reads?


Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 08:40 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On March 19 2012 08:10 Grackaroni wrote:
On March 19 2012 08:07 Velinath wrote:
On March 19 2012 08:05 Grackaroni wrote:
Great so he told the truth about Velinath being 3rd party.

How do you figure? He had role names, throwing out random accusations means nothing. I'm town.

Well he had a DT ability that can be used during day that checks if a player is a being of great power.
He told us you were the planar dragon. I guess he could have lied, he has no more reason to help town than he does to mess with it.

On March 17 2012 10:23 Drazerk wrote:
On March 17 2012 10:21 Bluelightz wrote:
My eyes O_O, I think that Wiggles is town and trustable for the elections, vote for the wiggul cause!


Wiggles is someone who should never win the election for several reasons

1) If he is scum we are screwed and there is no coming back
2) If he is town and it turns bad we are also screwed
3) I used an item on Wiggles and know he is not the same as me which makes me hesitant for anyone to vote for him without an excellent argument


@gonzaw:

I'm not sure what exactly you want me to do or say in response to you. If you want me to spew all my reads into the thread, I'm not going to do so. When I want to push a scum in the thread, I'll write a case and post it. I don't like to share town reads either, unless it's a person under discussion/scrutiny, or there's a specific reason to, i.e. they're up for a lynch, someone's saying to shoot them, etc..

For example, I think Kenpachi's a great target for a check. He's being obscure about his role, and he gave an item to a self-claimed third party, who was very likely to be lynched. That he did so, makes me think he's playing more towards an alternate win condition, than actually trying to win with town.



You haven't done anything like that by now. You haven't written any "cases" yet.
If your answer to that is "Well, I don't think anyone is scum for now", then why don't you pressure people and try to find them?
Will you just sit back and do nothing until someone does something scummy enough for you to notice?

That's not how it works.
There are some things I want you to do, for instance tell me what you think about Lanaia and Zephird, with reasoning and thought process behind it.


Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 08:50 Velinath wrote:
Vig shot, track, watch at the moment. Like I said it's not exactly an inventor role. That's the closest thing I can think of to describe it.

Or if you want a bucket of water I can do that too, I guess.



Why could you create a bucket of water? What specific thing about your Role PM tells you you could create such an object?

Stop being vague Velinath, you promised to be transparent about this, so stop wasting our time, just spill everything out from the get go.



Show nested quote +
Also, I believe other players will gain access to the resource that I would be using to get these items as the game wears on.


What resource?
Again, spill it out.

On Zephird:

I don't like his early posting, as it mostly consists of spam and commentary. After that, though, it actually picks up a fair bit. He puts pressure on Drazerk, and actively participates in relevant discussion. He seems like he's playing freely, as he isn't scared to share his reads when relevant, and changes his mind a few times. He's also been consistent on his stance on directing blues. Overall, a slight town-read.

On Lanaia:

Null. I always seem to have trouble reading her, because her play never seems to stand out a lot to me. In this game, she's been posting a lot of reads, but without much reasoning, which makes them pretty throwaway. Her other posts are based around the game mechanics, which doesn't reflect much on alignment. I'll have to watch her more on day 2, to see if she actually starts to provide reasoning, or just continues only giving alignment reads. Could be a good night 2 shot.
you gotta dance
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9105 Posts
March 19 2012 21:54 GMT
#1147
Threads about to close. In case I die
I think JJ/Wiggles/Velinath/Gonzaw are all probably town.
I Would be surprised if 2/3 of JJ-Wiggles-Foolishness aren't hit.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6015 Posts
March 19 2012 22:01 GMT
#1148
ATTENTION

[image loading]


The testing course is being closed for mandatory robotic testing. We ask that you return to your cells and refrain from communication at this time.
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Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2294 Posts
March 19 2012 22:02 GMT
#1149
On March 20 2012 06:54 Grackaroni wrote:
Threads about to close. In case I die
I think JJ/Wiggles/Velinath/Gonzaw are all probably town.
I Would be surprised if 2/3 of JJ-Wiggles-Foolishness aren't hit.


thanks for suggesting good mafia hits. that'll help.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6015 Posts
March 19 2012 23:00 GMT
#1150
Day 2

[image loading]


GLaDOS: "Oh dear, there seem to be some of you missing. Apparently some panels were malfunctioning last night, so i just had them all destroyed with crushers. There did seem to be some test subjects underneath however, so I did not manage to destroy all of the faulty plates. Oh well, I'll have to come back to that later.

Now its time to test."



Gonzaw was CAST SCREAMING INTO THE RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFT!

Blazinghand was drowned in a sea of madness!

RayzorFlash was burned to death!

Cwave was burned to death!

Cyber_Cheese was burned to death!

Foolishness was sent to android hell!

A Security Camera Was invented!

The Rift has reached stage 2 Destabilization!

It is now day 2! with 23 alive it takes 12 to lynch! the day ends in 48 hours on Wednesday, Mar 21 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
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Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2294 Posts
March 19 2012 23:04 GMT
#1151
great. no flips.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
RayzorFlash
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada253 Posts
March 19 2012 23:05 GMT
#1152
GG guys, GL
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2400 Posts
March 19 2012 23:06 GMT
#1153
What's that? And it looks like Gonzaw is the LORD OF THE DIMENSIONAL RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFT.
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9105 Posts
March 19 2012 23:06 GMT
#1154
KALTHAZAR, LORD OF THE DIMENSIONAL RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFT clearly wanted Gonzaw's item as well.
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2400 Posts
March 19 2012 23:07 GMT
#1155
On March 20 2012 08:06 Grackaroni wrote:
KALTHAZAR, LORD OF THE DIMENSIONAL RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFT clearly wanted Gonzaw's item as well.

That could be the case too, so gonzaw is maybe not the LORD OF THE DIMENSIONAL RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFT.
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5335 Posts
March 19 2012 23:08 GMT
#1156
Also interesting, are that CWave, RayzorFlash, and C_C all seemed to have been killed by the same thing.
you gotta dance
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2294 Posts
March 19 2012 23:09 GMT
#1157
On March 20 2012 08:06 blubbdavid wrote:
What's that? And it looks like Gonzaw is the LORD OF THE DIMENSIONAL RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFT.


you misunderstood. he was killed by him.

I also shot Sinani who is still alive. so he's either bulletproof (third party with item or whatever) or he was protected or he is a vet.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Velinath
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States666 Posts
March 19 2012 23:09 GMT
#1158
So, I'm going to assume that the third parties have similar conditions; given the Destabilization Engine, that makes sense, anyway.
Velinath
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States666 Posts
March 19 2012 23:10 GMT
#1159
ebwop similar win conditions
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5335 Posts
March 19 2012 23:12 GMT
#1160
On March 20 2012 08:09 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 08:06 blubbdavid wrote:
What's that? And it looks like Gonzaw is the LORD OF THE DIMENSIONAL RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFT.


you misunderstood. he was killed by him.

I also shot Sinani who is still alive. so he's either bulletproof (third party with item or whatever) or he was protected or he is a vet.

I don't really see a reason for him to have been protected. Let's see what he claims.
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