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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
March 20 2012 20:13 GMT
#1480
On March 21 2012 05:02 Curu wrote:
Because they don't -want- to kill him but they want to be able to claim Town cred when he flips. That's why they soft bus. They had to know with day shooting Townies Caller would bite the bullet sooner or later but they don't want to instigate it happening.

It looks like Wiggles put a lot of effort/thought into it but never ever made a real push for Caller in the thread at any time. Do you understand where I'm going? He says he is suspicious of Caller but never once acts like he actually wanted Caller to be lynched until it was painfully obvious he was scum.


to add he was the last one to vote on caller (even after me)
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
March 20 2012 20:44 GMT
#1486
##vote abenson
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
March 20 2012 21:16 GMT
#1489
lol yet you somehow avoid getting modkilled
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
March 20 2012 21:30 GMT
#1492
this reeeeks of desperation
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
March 20 2012 21:40 GMT
#1494
On March 21 2012 06:37 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2012 06:28 Curu wrote:
So why have you not Masoned anyone?

And why Bill Murray? What about Abenson or Katina?

I haven't masoned anyone, because a bunch of people masoned me, so I figured I could save them for later in the game if I wanted to. After everyone claimed their contacts though, everyone talking to me went silent, for whatever reason. I don't see how that would reflect on my alignment at all.

If you're talking about the lynch, I said Bill Murray, because he's the most dangerous of the lurkers, and because Dr. H drew a link between them. If you look at my post, it's not a "Let's kill this person and ignore the others" kind of thing, it's meant to go systematically through the people and actually threaten them with the lynch to see how they react. If we still think they're scum, we follow through. That's basically what's happening to abenson right now. He's actually being threatened with the lynch, and if he can't do anything to stop that, he will be killed. I wanted to start with Bill Murray though, instead of abenson. Notice how I called him out, and then he suddenly jumps into the thread, OMGUS's, and promises future analysis which he has yet to deliver on. That show's he's actively lurking, not just inactive, and he wants to acquiesce the town. Also, now that we've seen mafia can have a role like day-vig, can't BM acting 'like a blue' also be interpreted as being a mafia power role?

You are still trying to argue over someone who was detective checked town?
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
March 20 2012 22:12 GMT
#1505
so thats why we lynch abenson to lower kp to 1 and then flip wiggles next day cycle
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
March 20 2012 23:53 GMT
#1514
if abenson is town i refuse to play with him in any game ever again
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
March 21 2012 03:33 GMT
#1520
with the way abenson has played i wouldnt be surprised... bussing him wouldn't shock me at all
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
March 21 2012 03:54 GMT
#1522
bandwagon was pretty strong we had 4 votes switch from wiggles to abenson (+1 to get to 5 out of 7 needed) in like a matter or 30 minutes

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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
March 21 2012 16:42 GMT
#1528
well this is fun. I'm trying to figure out if scum gave up or are sitting back laughing their asses off
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
March 21 2012 20:17 GMT
#1533
On March 22 2012 05:07 layabout wrote:
Since abenson has decided to "say goodbye" i see no reason for us to change the vote at all

I think that kurumi was probably the traitor because if that is true then his play actually makes sense. Do others agree or disagree with this?

If he was not the traitor then if the real traitor would have contacted kurumi and then joined the mafia or failing that + Show Spoiler +
because some derps actually thought kurumi might be town, i mean can you believe it? i know right?

they would have contacted caller the next day when it became clear that absolutely everybody was voting for him and he was probably scum.

So if Kurumi was not the traitor we could come up with a narrow down our suspects with a list of players that could have made private contact with either Kurumi or caller.
a quick look here shows that only [UoN]sentinel and DrH were in contact with them.
+ Show Spoiler +
I am also wondering how reliable that spreadsheet is


decon cant check dead peoples pm web. IMO talks of traitor should be completely negated because he was found. It doesn't matter now. we have 3 scum lets just find them
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
March 21 2012 20:18 GMT
#1534
and i think we have a really good start with lynching abenson/wiggles
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
March 21 2012 21:45 GMT
#1542
On March 22 2012 06:42 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2012 15:43 jaybrundage wrote:
I haven't called my self confirmed town in ages. And to be frank I don't care if you think I'm town or mafia at this point. You're playing sloppy, tunneling a townie all game is really making you look bad. Read my post's from the perspective of a townie or mafia and see which one makes the most sense. You tunneling like this is really hurting your play.

I think I have done well to establish what I want to do this game, and that is lynch scum. Unless you think I'm willing to bus every single one of my teammates. Then it's unlikely I'm scum. You have been tunneling me hard just like Matt.

Doc do you not think that Abenson is scum. Do you think he has been a contributing townie?

In response to ET I PM'd prplhz which I claimed already and posted the PM's to Prlphz and JayBrundage's Pms I also PM'd Curu and claimed to him. Because why not.

ET I was looking thru Layabout's PM's because I wasn't sure if he might be scum. But at the moment I'm getting a null-read.
And then there was BM but Palmar checked him. But I still stand by my read's on Abenson and Katina. And Katina was my original read silly XD. She has been scummy from the get go. And her case just gets clearer and clearer. I'm pretty damn certain she is scum. Ill be posting a compilation of my cases on Katina soon. I think we should all just go for Abenson and then start talking about who we should lynch next. We can't the discussion die down.


Why is tunneling bad? I haven't tunneled you all game, I'm just on you today because I've been busy and you were one of my strongest reads since the beginning of the game.

I don't know, Abenson is really inactive, but isn't that exactly his meta? He's probably a disinterested townie or the traitor. Whether I vote for him or not, he's gonna die today so I don't really feel the need to move my vote. I think you're scum so I'm voting for you.

You can't say that you're not confirmed and then that I look bad for tunneling a townie because no one knows your alignment except you and scum. Do you not see why that bothers me? katina has called me out for stupid reasons but I'm not saying she looks like shit for "tunneling a townie" because my alignment isn't confirmed. It doesn't look bad to anyone except you and possibly your stupid scumbuddies. If I had the time I'd write a big post on you but you've been on my radar since Day 1 doing a lot of meek posts about worthless things like LaL which don't help town (townies lie often in TL, everyone knows this)

Then you come out later blazingly confident asking people to roleclaim to you for no reason, sheeping Palmar basically, and now you're still talking to me like you're confirmed and I'm an idiot for suspecting you. Get real.

i like this post

except for that tunneling can cloud judgement
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
March 21 2012 22:39 GMT
#1548
heres a list of everyone alive
Katina
Mattchew
BillMurray
EchelonTee
Mr. Wiggles
DoctorHelvetica
[UoN]Sentinel
deconduo
layabout
Abenson
sandroba
Curu
jaybrundage
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
March 21 2012 23:06 GMT
#1550
I do find it funny how jaybrun calls anyone (me and DocH) casting suspicion on him "tunneling"


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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
March 22 2012 03:00 GMT
#1560
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
March 22 2012 03:29 GMT
#1564
that is complete and utter bullshit by abenson.
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
March 22 2012 13:41 GMT
#1570
I would much rather lynch wiggles, decon, or sentinel then katina
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
March 28 2012 13:14 GMT
#1755
ET how could you.
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
March 28 2012 16:57 GMT
#1759
On March 29 2012 01:55 Bill Murray wrote:
noone is surprised I was mafia?

nope. you lucked out with the palmar check.
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