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I would like to lynch Kurumi or Katina
Kurumi for what i think could be a scum slip. As prplhz has pointed out his Rattata reference can be seen as mafia attracting the tratior or the tratior trying to call out mafia. I'm not sure why this has been glossed over quite so easily. Tratior has to be joined with the mafia and the sooner the better a free kill point for them.
On March 13 2012 05:51 Kurumi wrote:
My Rattata and I need friends.
I am voting for the person who put the least effort into voting Jackal and this is Node. It's D1 and I don't want to lose him. We can verify his claim at any time.
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Jackal's Town: He gets roleblocked. Mafia loses 0.5KP every Night.
Jackal's Scum: Thanks to basic math we might work out that he is lying about roleblocks.
He has been posting in polish and generally not really contributing. He puts a vote on node because he has put in much effort. But besides that makes little contributions the the thread. Then votes for Caller because he he say's he doesn't think we will see the flip. Is he planning to hide it as scum. Or does he think that Caller is bullshitting about the whole thing which seems unlikely and dumb.
On March 12 2012 10:33 Katina wrote:Hi!!! Since we are all pointing fingers I am going to point one as well to blend in! Woo! Okay, Mattchew. You ask a lot of questions..... Wait... This is all you do. I'm going to ignore the following post.... Show nested quote +On March 12 2012 09:10 Mattchew wrote:
liars and lurkers comes up every game and is the easiest place for scum to hide posts that look like they contain anything useful. its a stupid policy, we should lynch on cases and strong meta reads day 1, and then cases only day 2 and forward Because it's just so damn bad <3 ## Vote MattchewI hope I have succeded in blending in now! I feel so pro bro.
Regarding Katina her first post she jumps on Mattchew. She makes a case and points fingers simply because she wants to
"fit in." So she makes a bad case on Matt with little to no reasoning saying his posts was just bad? Doesn't put any effort in it.
She calls out people for posting with no content, however she has no content of her own. This play style is very similar to how she played in BCAC. She constantly called out people with out posting any thing of her own.
She then calls out Node calling him on lack of content and flip flopping. Well this post has some merit. and Node has potential as red. I can totally see Katina pushing a teammate that has no content. Very similar to how she pushed her scum buddy sheth last game Also in BCAC.
On March 12 2012 10:33 Katina wrote:Hi!!! Since we are all pointing fingers I am going to point one as well to blend in! Woo! Okay, Mattchew. You ask a lot of questions..... Wait... This is all you do. I'm going to ignore the following post.... Show nested quote +On March 12 2012 09:10 Mattchew wrote:
liars and lurkers comes up every game and is the easiest place for scum to hide posts that look like they contain anything useful. its a stupid policy, we should lynch on cases and strong meta reads day 1, and then cases only day 2 and forward Because it's just so damn bad <3 ## Vote MattchewI hope I have succeded in blending in now! I feel so pro bro.
She also tried to discredit a now confirmed townie VE
Overall I would like to lynch either one of them. Any thoughts questions
Oh and Palmar I would like you to PM me and roleclaim to me please.
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On March 15 2012 03:55 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Curu is lying, I never once said Jackal's role was good for town or pro-town. I said it's a retarded lynch.
"Why are we lynching a claimed blue with town KP instead of Jitsu again? Because this is a "normal" game ? "
Apparently not wanting to mislynch someone who is potentially useful down the line (after a broadcasted DT check for example) which I say easily in the same breath as calling it a role that is generally bad for town, those statements are in no way contradictory, means I think his role is great for town and I'm a liar
Curu you are either scum or a complete fucking moron
Curu was desperately pushing for jackals lynch, if he had succeeded and jackal was blue like he claimed we would've lynched curu immediately after, I don't think he's scum because he's playing too reckless, but his tunnel needs to end now, curu jackal is off limits for today at least, even if he is scum there are four other mafia out there and this conversation is going nowhere, find another case please ) :
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He's straight up lying at this point. People who go out of their way to misrepresent and lie about what others are saying rarely have towns best interest in mind.
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On March 15 2012 03:59 jaybrundage wrote:
Oh and Palmar I would like you to PM me and roleclaim to me please.
Who the fuck do you think you are.
Bow to your king.
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Breaking Story!
Node was quietly walking down the alley avoiding any participation when Caller gunned him down. Node has died!
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On March 12 2012 15:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2012 15:03 Bill Murray wrote:
@doctorh, what are the reasons you like from curu? I'm catching up, and I value your opinion. That is also why I am sort of sheeping you. You saw what I saw out of gumshoe, switched when that wagon wasn't going anywhere for some reason, and probably found a good one here.
I remember Caller's posting earlier on in the day being suspect. He came in like a bull, china flying everywhere, and the broken glass and debris are making it easy to see a case on him being valid.
tl;dr: catching up, asking questions, can see caller being scum Caller came in trolling then made his case when there was light pressure and it seems forced. I'm not totally sold on him at the moment because I feel like this is pretty much in line with the way he always acts but Curu does make a better case. I still think Caller is a better lynch than Jackal but I'm not confident enough to push it. Caller's case is based on, from what I can tell, misunderstanding of jackals post and then overstating the significance of it. Curu has a meta read that is at least accurate. Jaybrundage is one of those players who seems to me to be participating only in the surface discussion and making little effort to figure out what peoples motives are or hunt scum. His last few posts speak for themselves really. His confidence is a little bit out of place for a newer scum player though. I'm torn between Caller and jaybrundage right now. I'd be on prplhz in an instant if his logic wasn't equally terrible last time I played with him. I'm waiting for Pandain to come into play, he's awful so I'll know right away if he's scum or not.
So here Doctor H makes a post about Caller’s trolling in the beginning. Then goes to say how Caller is a better lynch candidate than Jackal which is fine but later he posts the following.
On March 12 2012 08:13 DoctorHelvetica wrote:VE and Pandain have both been pretty inactive which is unusual. I don't buy into the case against Jackal to be honest, it seems forced as hell. Show nested quote +he instead first brings up a list of random people that he thinks would be lynchable in my shitty circumstance He was clearly trying to demonstrate how your logic was flawed and selective, which to be honest was right on point. I'd down with lynching Caller to be honest. This "haha i was fucking with you all along to see how you'd all react!" thing reeks of bullshit to the core. The case on Jackal is forced, he's just playing disruptively.
Now he is onboard with the Caller lynch.
On March 13 2012 05:28 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
How does Caller thinking a scum would defend another scum make him scum? Maybe I'm not following your logic.
Jackal, roleclaiming was unnecessary. If there is no claim to the contrary I'll believe you. Dreamflower is a pretty specific role and I doubt there is more than one in this game as opposed to something like medic or veteran.
We need to reconsider the business surrounding prplhz. His play is poor but it's not particularly scummy and the attempt to pin someone as scum for making a similar case around the same timeframe is ridiculous and comes off to me as a hamfisted attempt by scum to start a bandwagon. The fact that it took makes me even more sure it's scum originated or backed.
Wiggles is the first to jump on it, doing nothing in the game besides talk about mechanics/town strategy (at great length) until this point I'm surprised his first attempt at hunting scum is so forced and illogical. The fact that prplhz made a case near the same time period is inconclusive, might perhaps implicate that he is town talking to curu or caller in PM but hardly mafiaesque.
Jitsu is the only one who voted for him and he's already been in the hotseat. This is the most alarming event in this thread to me. The Caller vs VE deal is really coming off to me like an ensuing tragedy of townie vs townie.
Take a look at the last sentence, it made me eyebrow raise. He finishes this post off with the Caller Vs. VE situation. He refers to it is as a townie vs. townie when before he was a supporter of Caller’s lynch and pointing out his trolling. There appears to be a change of heart here that was not mentioned and this sentenced was buried down in last line. I took a look at Doctor H’s filter and noticed something else. He makes a habit of pointing numerous fingers at other people in his cases.The contexts of his posts are all over the place. His posting throughout the game has been inconsistent and that is scummy. He tries to divert the attention onto everyone else when the attention should be on him.
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seriously it's fucking annoying to play with people who don't attempt to play the game.
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On March 15 2012 03:55 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Curu is lying, I never once said Jackal's role was good for town or pro-town. I said it's a retarded lynch.
"Why are we lynching a claimed blue with town KP instead of Jitsu again? Because this is a "normal" game ? "
Apparently not wanting to mislynch someone who is potentially useful down the line (after a broadcasted DT check for example) which I say easily in the same breath as calling it a role that is generally bad for town, those statements are in no way contradictory, means I think his role is great for town and I'm a liar
Curu you are either scum or a complete fucking moron
I want to kill you next. How do you feel about that?
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rgtheschworz has been warned for inactivity. If this persists he will be replaced. If I missed anyone breaking the inactivity requirements that you spot please let me know.
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OK this is super weird. Kurumi claims that he got the information that there is indeed a dreamflower role present in the game with his Role PM.
In addition he claims he's a dreamer, ie: gets clues every night.
What weirds me out is that I didn't get any information with the role PM, but I know this:
The mafia will be given some information some of the blue roles that are in the game, but will not be told how many exist.
I'm just not sure
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On March 15 2012 04:10 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2012 03:59 jaybrundage wrote:
Oh and Palmar I would like you to PM me and roleclaim to me please. Who the fuck do you think you are. Bow to your king.
I'm the MuthaFuckin JayBrundage
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Also i would endorse a DocH lynch
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Who did you PM jaybrundage?
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Why aren't you PMing me? You agreed with just about everything I said so far.
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On March 15 2012 03:59 jaybrundage wrote:I would like to lynch Kurumi or KatinaKurumi for what i think could be a scum slip. As prplhz has pointed out his Rattata reference can be seen as mafia attracting the tratior or the tratior trying to call out mafia. I'm not sure why this has been glossed over quite so easily. Tratior has to be joined with the mafia and the sooner the better a free kill point for them. Show nested quote +On March 13 2012 05:51 Kurumi wrote:
My Rattata and I need friends.
I am voting for the person who put the least effort into voting Jackal and this is Node. It's D1 and I don't want to lose him. We can verify his claim at any time.
Also
Jackal's Town: He gets roleblocked. Mafia loses 0.5KP every Night.
Jackal's Scum: Thanks to basic math we might work out that he is lying about roleblocks.
He has been posting in polish and generally not really contributing. He puts a vote on node because he has put in much effort. But besides that makes little contributions the the thread. Then votes for Caller because he he say's he doesn't think we will see the flip. Is he planning to hide it as scum. Or does he think that Caller is bullshitting about the whole thing which seems unlikely and dumb. Show nested quote +On March 12 2012 10:33 Katina wrote:Hi!!! Since we are all pointing fingers I am going to point one as well to blend in! Woo! Okay, Mattchew. You ask a lot of questions..... Wait... This is all you do. I'm going to ignore the following post.... On March 12 2012 09:10 Mattchew wrote:
liars and lurkers comes up every game and is the easiest place for scum to hide posts that look like they contain anything useful. its a stupid policy, we should lynch on cases and strong meta reads day 1, and then cases only day 2 and forward Because it's just so damn bad <3 ## Vote MattchewI hope I have succeded in blending in now! I feel so pro bro. Regarding Katina her first post she jumps on Mattchew. She makes a case and points fingers simply because she wants to "fit in." So she makes a bad case on Matt with little to no reasoning saying his posts was just bad? Doesn't put any effort in it. She calls out people for posting with no content, however she has no content of her own. This play style is very similar to how she played in BCAC. She constantly called out people with out posting any thing of her own. She then calls out Node calling him on lack of content and flip flopping. Well this post has some merit. and Node has potential as red. I can totally see Katina pushing a teammate that has no content. Very similar to how she pushed her scum buddy sheth last game Also in BCAC.Show nested quote +On March 12 2012 10:33 Katina wrote:Hi!!! Since we are all pointing fingers I am going to point one as well to blend in! Woo! Okay, Mattchew. You ask a lot of questions..... Wait... This is all you do. I'm going to ignore the following post.... On March 12 2012 09:10 Mattchew wrote:
liars and lurkers comes up every game and is the easiest place for scum to hide posts that look like they contain anything useful. its a stupid policy, we should lynch on cases and strong meta reads day 1, and then cases only day 2 and forward Because it's just so damn bad <3 ## Vote MattchewI hope I have succeded in blending in now! I feel so pro bro. She also tried to discredit a now confirmed townie VE Overall I would like to lynch either one of them. Any thoughts questions Oh and Palmar I would like you to PM me and roleclaim to me please.
First off, I'm not mafia. Sorry to disappoint you. I'm not the first one to point fingers at others, have you not been here? Unlike others, I'm pointing because I have a reason, and the suspicion for it and that reason is to try and find scum. I have been reading the posts and trying to figure out who might be mafia just like the rest of the town. Of course VE is confirmed, he's dead.... Stop wasting time with me and go after the real scum.
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prpl did you use your 2 pms?
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Katina what do you think about my Kurumi
And prplhz i am not sure who i want to pm yet. Feel free to pm me tho if you want
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On March 15 2012 04:15 Palmar wrote:
seriously it's fucking annoying to play with people who don't attempt to play the game.
Not sure if you were referring to me or not, but I think my question is at least somewhat valid, seeing as how you posted this:
On March 14 2012 04:10 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2012 04:09 Jackal58 wrote:
Why don't you role claim to all of us Palmar. Don't even need to use a PM.
EFFICIENCY FTMFW!!!!!!!!
which could be construed to say that you are the Detective. Since we aren't in PM contact, I can only glean stuff that you say in the thread.
Hence, my question.
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