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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 14 2012 13:23 GMT
#741
On March 14 2012 22:19 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2012 22:15 Palmar wrote:
He has also just come off a game where he actively tried to lose the game for town as town (see resistance). I agree that he's a good target anyway though.

So do you think Caller is town? In addition, I'm thinking of killing you Deconduo, what do you have to say about that?


If you are thinking of killing me because you think I'm scum then you're wrong. If its because I've been inactive then fair enough. I would be pushing for my lynch too. I'm stepping up my game though.


I think you're scum. Last time you were terribly wrong it was because you were scum, now you supported the whole "Jackal should not shoot" movement, while it's obviously the best thing he can do, given both his own statements about his expectations towards the game, and the fact that he was very close to being lynched last night that resulted in a no-lynch which will ensure he'll be controversial throughout the game.
Computer says mafia
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 14 2012 13:27 GMT
#742
On March 14 2012 22:23 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2012 22:19 deconduo wrote:
On March 14 2012 22:15 Palmar wrote:
He has also just come off a game where he actively tried to lose the game for town as town (see resistance). I agree that he's a good target anyway though.

So do you think Caller is town? In addition, I'm thinking of killing you Deconduo, what do you have to say about that?


If you are thinking of killing me because you think I'm scum then you're wrong. If its because I've been inactive then fair enough. I would be pushing for my lynch too. I'm stepping up my game though.


I think you're scum. Last time you were terribly wrong it was because you were scum, now you supported the whole "Jackal should not shoot" movement, while it's obviously the best thing he can do, given both his own statements about his expectations towards the game, and the fact that he was very close to being lynched last night that resulted in a no-lynch which will ensure he'll be controversial throughout the game.


If he is town then not shooting was the right thing. Losing 4 townies on night 1 could very well have lost the game for us on the spot.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
March 14 2012 13:31 GMT
#743
we started with 17 - 18 town vs 4 scum 1 traitor

I agree losing 2 extra townies would suck, but it would hardly cripple us... its weirder that jackal thought he was getting shot and didn't use his powers
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 14 2012 13:36 GMT
#744
The problem is that it's not beneficial for town to have to be hung up on Jackal's alignment for so long. It's strictly inefficient not to shoot just to clear shit up. Remember, he was the prime lynch candidate last night but somehow did not get randomly lynched. Usually when deadline is close and a no lynch is happening people just flock towards whatever lynch works because they think it'll give them information, this didn't happen. Why?

And what's with the pessimism? Jackal is a decent player, he is well capable of shooting scum, especially when, assuming he's town, he has been the victim of tunneling for the last game-day, it should be quite possible to spot scum on that wagon, for the person on the other end.

Even if only to clear out some lurkertrash, jackal did the town a disfavour by not shooting.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 14 2012 13:59 GMT
#745
Jackal this is boring why don't you answer my question rather than some unimportant shit asked by some unimportant person?
Computer says mafia
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 14 2012 14:02 GMT
#746
On March 14 2012 22:59 Palmar wrote:
Jackal this is boring why don't you answer my question rather than some unimportant shit asked by some unimportant person?


Because he's dodging.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 14 2012 14:03 GMT
#747
On March 14 2012 22:19 Palmar wrote:
Jackal, that's not how it works, you already claimed that:

Show nested quote +
I'm Dreamflower. The suicidal vigilante. If I shoot a townie I die. Whether I hit them or not


Show nested quote +
If I attempt to shoot a townie I die. Period. That's how my roIle PM is written. It states no matter how my shot is blocked I die.


It's reasonable to assume you didn't shoot. In addition, assuming you are actually dreamflower and Curu is scum, how would he have any knowledge of whether or not you shot?

If I shot at scum I would still be alive. Whether they used a medic or roleblock or busdriver or what not. Scum would know if I had shot one of them.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 14 2012 14:03 GMT
#748
On March 14 2012 22:59 Palmar wrote:
Jackal this is boring why don't you answer my question rather than some unimportant shit asked by some unimportant person?

Ask
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 14 2012 14:04 GMT
#749
On March 14 2012 22:31 Mattchew wrote:
we started with 17 - 18 town vs 4 scum 1 traitor

I agree losing 2 extra townies would suck, but it would hardly cripple us... its weirder that jackal thought he was getting shot and didn't use his powers

I'm the last person scum would shoot. They think they have a free lynch.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 14 2012 14:05 GMT
#750
On March 14 2012 22:36 Palmar wrote:
The problem is that it's not beneficial for town to have to be hung up on Jackal's alignment for so long. It's strictly inefficient not to shoot just to clear shit up. Remember, he was the prime lynch candidate last night but somehow did not get randomly lynched. Usually when deadline is close and a no lynch is happening people just flock towards whatever lynch works because they think it'll give them information, this didn't happen. Why?

And what's with the pessimism? Jackal is a decent player, he is well capable of shooting scum, especially when, assuming he's town, he has been the victim of tunneling for the last game-day, it should be quite possible to spot scum on that wagon, for the person on the other end.

Even if only to clear out some lurkertrash, jackal did the town a disfavour by not shooting.

You scum Palmar?
Life can only kill you once.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 14 2012 14:17 GMT
#751
On March 14 2012 20:27 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 05:09 Jackal58 wrote:
What a derp fest.
Since I die night one anyways with the regularity of 90 year old virgin on a prune diet I'm claiming.
I'm Dreamflower. The suicidal vigilante. If I shoot a townie I die. Whether I hit them or not. So go lynch scum ya derps.
Start with Node. That's where I'm switching my vote too. Caller has a tendency to piss me off so I'll just ignore him until I decide to shoot him.


If "always dying night 1" is a valid enough reason for you to randomly roleclaim and not properly trying to avert your lynch, why is it not good enough reason to shoot on night one? It's just contradictory if your reason for claiming was expecting death, that you did not seize the opportunity before your expected death to try and kill scum.


answer.
Computer says mafia
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
March 14 2012 14:21 GMT
#752
Holy shit this is just like the other game. Jackal is even posting EXACTLY LIKE SCUM JACKAL THE OTHER GAME.

I also spent a whole metric fuckton of posts arguing why use of Jackal's role is more anti Town than pro Town and DrH DISAGREED WITH ME. Now he posts this bullshit:


On March 14 2012 13:32 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

his town is inherently worse for town than it is good, if he didn't shoot that's a great thing and he shouldn't be lynched for failing to confirm his role via double townie suicide jesus christ


Like are you fucking kidding me? He disagrees with me that Jackal's role is worse for Town when I used it to try to justify lynching Jackal, now he agrees with me that Jackal's role is worse than Town to defend Jackal.

I thought DrH looked pretty damn Town but the amount of bullshit he is spewing out is ridiculous.

For the rest of you who aren't refusing to pull your head out of your ass:

Jackal's claim makes him a hesitant lynch because if Mafia claims this and they are asked to shoot, they have no way of faking it besides constantly saying they don't want to shoot. Jackal is doing this.

This game:

On March 14 2012 23:05 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2012 22:36 Palmar wrote:
The problem is that it's not beneficial for town to have to be hung up on Jackal's alignment for so long. It's strictly inefficient not to shoot just to clear shit up. Remember, he was the prime lynch candidate last night but somehow did not get randomly lynched. Usually when deadline is close and a no lynch is happening people just flock towards whatever lynch works because they think it'll give them information, this didn't happen. Why?

And what's with the pessimism? Jackal is a decent player, he is well capable of shooting scum, especially when, assuming he's town, he has been the victim of tunneling for the last game-day, it should be quite possible to spot scum on that wagon, for the person on the other end.

Even if only to clear out some lurkertrash, jackal did the town a disfavour by not shooting.

You scum Palmar?


Last Jackal scum game:

On December 04 2011 23:57 Jackal58 wrote:
Good morning. Role confirmed. Game on.

Random lynch on day 1 seems counterproductive to me. On day anything really. What would you perceive as a benefit to doing that Palmar?

Posting lists right out of the box about players who are likely on the scum team due to the hosts balancing reminds me a bit of Zodiac lists that have been posted in previous games. More often than not those lists were posted by scum. At least in the games I've seen them used in. You scum Palmar?

The only way to 100% establish your innocence is to die.


The same exact fucking phrase that made me 100% sure he is scum in that game he has just pulled out again.

Maybe you guys haven't played enough with Jackal. He is STUPIDLY AGGRESSIVE as Town. He would never post anything that mild and timid, especially not against Palmar. Jackal/Palmar are friends from outside TL and whenever Town Jackal decides to call Palmar scum he states it bold and proud with a billion curse words and crazy pushing attached.

This is not Town Jackal.

Palmar I haven't Mason'd anyone yet.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
March 14 2012 14:25 GMT
#753
The fact that Jackal insinuated over and over that he was going to shoot then didn't is another giant sign. When the claim was saving him from lynch, he constantly said he would prove it by shooting. But then he doesn't. Because he can't.
wat
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 14 2012 14:29 GMT
#754
Feel free to mason and roleclaim to me then Curu.
Computer says mafia
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 14 2012 14:44 GMT
#755
On March 14 2012 23:17 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2012 20:27 Palmar wrote:
On March 13 2012 05:09 Jackal58 wrote:
What a derp fest.
Since I die night one anyways with the regularity of 90 year old virgin on a prune diet I'm claiming.
I'm Dreamflower. The suicidal vigilante. If I shoot a townie I die. Whether I hit them or not. So go lynch scum ya derps.
Start with Node. That's where I'm switching my vote too. Caller has a tendency to piss me off so I'll just ignore him until I decide to shoot him.


If "always dying night 1" is a valid enough reason for you to randomly roleclaim and not properly trying to avert your lynch, why is it not good enough reason to shoot on night one? It's just contradictory if your reason for claiming was expecting death, that you did not seize the opportunity before your expected death to try and kill scum.


answer.

I didn't "randomly" role claim. I claimed to avoid being lynched. And if I had a high expectation of somebody being scum I would have shot. But I didn't. So I didn't. So bite me.

Curu is scum. I'll shoot him tonight.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 14 2012 14:45 GMT
#756
On March 14 2012 23:25 Curu wrote:
The fact that Jackal insinuated over and over that he was going to shoot then didn't is another giant sign. When the claim was saving him from lynch, he constantly said he would prove it by shooting. But then he doesn't. Because he can't.

I never said I'd prove it. Show me scummy.
Life can only kill you once.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 14 2012 14:48 GMT
#757
On March 14 2012 23:44 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2012 23:17 Palmar wrote:
On March 14 2012 20:27 Palmar wrote:
On March 13 2012 05:09 Jackal58 wrote:
What a derp fest.
Since I die night one anyways with the regularity of 90 year old virgin on a prune diet I'm claiming.
I'm Dreamflower. The suicidal vigilante. If I shoot a townie I die. Whether I hit them or not. So go lynch scum ya derps.
Start with Node. That's where I'm switching my vote too. Caller has a tendency to piss me off so I'll just ignore him until I decide to shoot him.


If "always dying night 1" is a valid enough reason for you to randomly roleclaim and not properly trying to avert your lynch, why is it not good enough reason to shoot on night one? It's just contradictory if your reason for claiming was expecting death, that you did not seize the opportunity before your expected death to try and kill scum.


answer.

I didn't "randomly" role claim. I claimed to avoid being lynched. And if I had a high expectation of somebody being scum I would have shot. But I didn't. So I didn't. So bite me.

Curu is scum. I'll shoot him tonight.


How do you feel about shooting DrH or Deconduo instead?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 14 2012 14:51 GMT
#758
I hate playing roles, but fuck it. Jackal is likely telling the truth, I have additional information to back up his claim.
Computer says mafia
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
March 14 2012 14:53 GMT
#759
Mattchew's looking pretty damn bad too. After VE made the case on Caller he didn't say anything about it, choosing to go for BM instead and not even commenting on the case.

After VE dies the case is suddenly "very good" and he decides to go with it without once mentioning or commenting on it before. Then he tries to ridicule the Jackal58 case with some stupid quoting from the OP then when Palmar lays it on Jackal as well he starts softly "reconsidering." Smells like riding the bandwagon to me.

Think Town, if I was scum what motivation would I possibly have to push Jackal as hard and singlemindedly as I am? To kill a "blue?" The blue role claimed is more detrimental to Town than Mafia, if I was Mafia I'd happily leave him be and let him do whatever he wants.
wat
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 14 2012 14:54 GMT
#760
On March 14 2012 23:53 Curu wrote:
Mattchew's looking pretty damn bad too. After VE made the case on Caller he didn't say anything about it, choosing to go for BM instead and not even commenting on the case.

After VE dies the case is suddenly "very good" and he decides to go with it without once mentioning or commenting on it before. Then he tries to ridicule the Jackal58 case with some stupid quoting from the OP then when Palmar lays it on Jackal as well he starts softly "reconsidering." Smells like riding the bandwagon to me.

Think Town, if I was scum what motivation would I possibly have to push Jackal as hard and singlemindedly as I am? To kill a "blue?" The blue role claimed is more detrimental to Town than Mafia, if I was Mafia I'd happily leave him be and let him do whatever he wants.

Because you're not very bright.
Life can only kill you once.
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