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On March 15 2012 23:22 Curu wrote:
Oh if there really is a Kingmaker then I think we can throw all assumptions of Normal game boundaries out the window -_-
Kurumi's role is beyond belief still though. Additionally if he was Town and knew about the setup why wouldn't he post that information for all of us? It's already stated in the OP that Mafia has that information. No reason to keep it to himself.
Die Kurumi die!
SOME information. That means one thing, two things, three things maybe not the exact setup! (unless You're scum and know more than me, of course, then please go ahead and tell us Your secrets.)
You would have lynched me Day 1 if I said "Guys stop voting Jackal, I know there's Dreamflower present in the game and I trust him". Your cases are laughable and make no sense.
I did everything I could to defend Jackal from getting lynched. It's not the first I've defended someone hard D1. My defence of Schworz was the same thing, I was 3rd party back then, but I would've done that no matter what. Guess what happened after my death? Lynching him decided the game.
I wanted to look as traitor D1 to deny Mafia their guess on gaining 0.5KP. You picked up on this, but did nothing till Day 2. It makes no sense. It's obvious this lynch is scum driven. It's obvious they've tried to recruit me and it failed, so they now want to get a free lynch. I was hinting it was a plan.
My role is weird. I know that. Curu himself said that the Dreamflower role is weird but remember: role is not equal to alignment! I wanted to play without lying. Figures, it would have been better if I claimed Detective and said I had a Town check on Jackal, right?
My lynch is pathetic. There's only Jackal and Katina semi-defending me. Don't You think it's weird? Doesn't it ring some bells? I did not lie.
But I guess.. it probably doesn't matter.
Jackal, I hope Palmar isn't serious about this lynch thing...
When is it possible for Mafia to use Hide Flip mechanic? Can they sacrifice their KP in advance to hide lynch flip?(Like, they use it on D2 and lose KP on N2?)
Please answer no to the second one. If they hide this flip they won not only this cycle, but another one too.
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I will be looking at the thread from time to time. I need to learn geography. Ask questions etc. I have pretty much lost all hope about me surviving today but I want to help as much as I can,
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It is a passive role, the only "active" thing related to it is what I will try to dream about and I had no choice during N1.
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On March 16 2012 03:10 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2012 03:07 Kurumi wrote:
It is a passive role, the only "active" thing related to it is what I will try to dream about and I had no choice during N1. Post both dreams and an account of how and why you claimed.
My first "dream" was info given to me at the start of the game saying that Dreamflower role is present in the game. The second dream I've posted already, it's indeed a dream and looks like a clue. I can't get much from it. I didn't want to post it so people would try to crack it, while I could dream about roles once more and get something better.
I have claimed because I am the leading lynch candidate and I am Town so I want to avoid getting lynched obviously.
"An account of how" what does it mean? Needs some help here.
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On March 16 2012 03:29 prplhz wrote:
Tell me what you did and how, a lot of it happened in PM land and it's hard for people to follow unless you say what actually happened. Like, to my knowledge you actually claimed during night1 but now you're saying that you claimed because you are up for lynch which doesn't make much sense because you weren't up for lynch night1.
Can you copy paste both dreams again, just for my convenience?
Ask Palmar and Jackal. I hinted being an informative role.
1st clue/dream
There's Dreamflower role present in the game.
2nd clue/dream
You dreamt about mysterious figure watching people pass by during the day. You couldn't recognize their sex. When the night came, the person you saw before was busy searching for something. Suddenly, you were reading a book in your own bed with "Secrets are being unveiled" title. As soon as you read the title entire scene disappeared. You were once again on pitch black street and couldn't find the man or woman working secretly here before. A while passed with you standing just right in the middle of the street. You were sure it's not 21st century. While your thoughts were troubling you, an angry man showed in front of you out of nowhere, saying:
- You have been warned before about violating our privacy!
After that, you regained your consciousness.
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On March 16 2012 04:06 Mattchew wrote:
it has been brought to my attention that kurumi doesn't speak or type well enough in english to fake that dream. its too bold of him
##unvote
People whole look really bad to me
Abenson, Bill Murray, Curu, Sentinal, All are lurking and scummy
EchelonTee, Gumshoe, Wiggles, Jaybrundage are also lurking but are slightly less scummy
Uh, thanks I guess.
I agree with a lurker lynch given our lack of time. We probably should aim at people like Abenson, EchelonTee or Schworz.
Why Abenson:
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-His posts are one/two liners.
-His cases start and end with a single adjective
-Obviously lurks
-Voted for Jackal D1
On March 15 2012 22:57 Abenson wrote:
I'm kinda worried that the mafia will kill Caller tonight.
That post makes no sense. He does not say "Hey guys, Caller might get targetted by scum tonight, we should get a medic to protect him" or "Caller is a good player this game, I think they might want to kill him", it's just like:
Oh, Caller might die. Oopsies.
Why EchelonTee:
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-Still has to voice his opinion on D2 lynch
-Obviously lurks
-His behaviour is different from D1
Saving grace: He was one of the few people to actually post a case and push it D1. He attacked Jitsu and got into an argument with him for a bit of time.
Why rgTheSchworz:
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-1 post so far
Saving grace: He actually defended Jackal who I think is Town and said he was busy travelling or something.
Vote count D1
I hope more of You change the view on me. I am innocent. I want to help.
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On March 16 2012 05:42 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I already know what's gonna happen someone is gonna say "kurumi is too easy of a lynch" that's how scum saved RoL for like 3 days in Storm Mafia.
Wrong. He was left alone because of his low post count and incoming modkill for not voting. I am not going to flee away, because I will stand here and defend myself. I am not scum. I am the Dreamer. I am Town. You're tunelling me for some reason, why? I tried to explain it already that Rattata is not any "traitor hint". I was "fake claiming" through trolling. If I were traitor I'd use people like Illidan or Team Rocket Member, maybe Dark/Ghost-type Pokemon, Guy Fawkes, MAYBE EVEN TALK ABOUT FREAKING TEA. But I did not talk about that because I am NOT the traitor.
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On March 16 2012 05:56 prplhz wrote:
I still don't get your pokémon dreamer shit. Rattata was trained by Joey who is a dreamer or something like that?
I'm not really into pokémon so you'll have to excuse me here.
Pokemon have nothing to do with anything but trolling. There's one trainer You fight at the beginning of the game and his name is Joey. He only has a low-level Rattata. If You let him have Your phone number, he will call You from time to time bragging about his Rattata being in the "top percentage" of Rattata, thus one of the best, but Rattata is like one of the first Pokemon You can get and a very weak one.
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On March 16 2012 06:13 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2012 06:11 Kurumi wrote:On March 16 2012 05:56 prplhz wrote:
I still don't get your pokémon dreamer shit. Rattata was trained by Joey who is a dreamer or something like that?
I'm not really into pokémon so you'll have to excuse me here. Pokemon have nothing to do with anything but trolling. There's one trainer You fight at the beginning of the game and his name is Joey. He only has a low-level Rattata. If You let him have Your phone number, he will call You from time to time bragging about his Rattata being in the "top percentage" of Rattata, thus one of the best, but Rattata is like one of the first Pokemon You can get and a very weak one. So what? Why are you talking about that in a mafia game? Are you actively trying to mislead people?
I am trying to explain why it was Rattata and no other pokemon. That's how it started. You said Rattata means rat and rat means traitor. I disagree. If I were traitor and wanted to hint that I am one I'd use a pokemon like Ekans or Seviper, the Poison-type snakes. Maybe Zoroark, a Dark-type Pokemon which disguises as others. There are a lot of pokemon which would do the job better if I were real traitor. But I am not. I just wanted to troll and bait with a theme. I picked Trainer Joey and played as him.
I need to go soon. I'd really, really like You to rethink this entire situation. I haven't lied to You. I wanted to look like a traitor D1 to deny Mafia's guess on traitor, I later hinted this plan to Jackal in PMs. Before the lynch situation arose I gave him insight on the plan I had. I knew that Dreamflower existed from the very beginning. I got a clue-dream D2. Also Mafia might hide today's flip and they'll WRECK the Town because of that. I hinted being a blue "knowing more than others" in PMs to Jackal and Palmar. It makes perfect sense for Mafia to go for me on D2. I knew it was a risk, but I thought You'll see how I have planned it out. I thought You'd understand. I am not a mastermind of things such as Operation Honeypot, but I think my plan was good.
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I am moving my vote on Abenson. We need a GOOD lynch. With the time we have a lurker lynch is the best course of action. He put no effort into this game. I made a post before about him.
##Unvote jaybrundage
##Vote: Abenson
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I am here for 20 more minutes. Then I am going to bed. Hopefully geography test goes well tomorrow.
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On March 16 2012 06:46 prplhz wrote:
You knew there was a dreamflower and no one had counter claimed Jackal58 so you knew he was the dreamflower. dreamflower is a town role so you knew he was town. Why didn't you just trust him completely and tell him about your crazy plan instead of just hinting it? It still doesn't matter, you hinted it after people had already called you out for it.
If you really thought it was a good idea to try to hint that you were the traitor in the thread then you really need to start thinking things over. There are 18 townies looking for people trying to claim traitor and only 4 scum, who do you think is likely going to see it first?
I'm not really worried that there are other types of pokémon, because I don't know those other types. You are probably the only one in this game who knows so much about pokémon so it makes perfect sense to use Rattata because it looks like you're the traitor while you can just make up some excuse if people call you out. It's also weird that you're trying to implement crazy plans when you have a potentially very powerful role.
Good luck on your geography test.
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Rattata_(Pokémon)
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Normal - type Rattata is
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Dark_(type) - type of pokemon I'd use as a traitor(I repeat: I am not scum. I am not traitor. I am the Dreamer. I am Town.). Look closely at Japanese meaning.
Maybe You'll understand why.
Thanks.
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EchelonTee, thanks for believing me. I'd like to lynch Abenson. Could You help us get a proper lynch? Vote for him. Although, if things go wrong (no-lynch approaching) make sure everyone switches to me. We need a lynch. If I can't stop it, let it be. I honestly did everything I could guys. Please, vote for Abenson. Remember why You have voted me? Because You thought "Rattata" is some kind of codename for traitor. It is not. It was just me trolling. Me trolling was a "sign" of being "traitor", not "Rattata". If I were the real traitor I would get induced already. But I am not. I am town. I am not scum. I can't shoot anyone, I can't do fireworks, I can't enact double lynch, I can't blow up. I am the Dreamer and I am a passive information role. The only active thing is choosing the topic of the clue I get.
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See You guys. Hopefully I'll be alive when I come back.
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No discussion day 2 and 3 sealed the deal.
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BTW I have not lied a single time besides the Dreamer claim.
And my lynch was stupid.
Besides couple of people saying that it's been written in terrible english many started chanting "kill him" and the entire case started on D2 instead of D1 with quote of my post saying about Rattata and me needing friends (I though about PM buddies there, lol) as it was an alegory of Traitor trying to find scumbuddies, because rats are traitors.
So stupid.
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On March 29 2012 02:14 Curu wrote:
Kurumi your entire claim was so unbelievable and obviously made up that it should have been obvious to everyone you were 100% Mafia.
A Town role that just receives info about the setup? Really? And it just happened to give you stuff about Dreamflower who was being discussed?
A Coroner spin-off. Considering it was a half-flip game, an information role checking dead people was likely(or, in that case confirming roles being present). The Dreamflower knowledge was logical - I defended Jackal D1 without a claim and backed it up D2. Nothing wrong here.
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On March 29 2012 05:48 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2012 02:22 Kurumi wrote:On March 29 2012 02:14 Curu wrote:
Kurumi your entire claim was so unbelievable and obviously made up that it should have been obvious to everyone you were 100% Mafia.
A Town role that just receives info about the setup? Really? And it just happened to give you stuff about Dreamflower who was being discussed? A Coroner spin-off. Considering it was a half-flip game, an information role checking dead people was likely(or, in that case confirming roles being present). The Dreamflower knowledge was logical - I defended Jackal D1 without a claim and backed it up D2. Nothing wrong here. it was a bad claim and the poor english made it more obvious, should have went with my DT mason plan
English mine good is. Go suck lollipopers.
Yeah I probably should go with "You get role every day" thing, would've been easier.
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On March 29 2012 05:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
First we make expand.
Then we defense it.
Nonono, First we defense expand, then we make it.
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EPT
