• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 08:18
CET 14:18
KST 22:18
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)9Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns6[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 103SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1822Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises3
StarCraft 2
General
Spontaneous hotkey change zerg Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises
Tourneys
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) WardiTV Winter Cup WardiTV Mondays SC2 AI Tournament 2026 OSC Season 13 World Championship
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution
Brood War
General
Potential ASL qualifier breakthroughs? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ I would like to say something about StarCraft BW General Discussion StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 SLON Grand Finals – Season 2
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Mechabellum Beyond All Reason Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced
Blogs
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
Psychological Factors That D…
TrAiDoS
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2309 users

TL Mafia LII: JubJub Mafia - Page 2

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 Next All
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 19 2012 21:12 GMT
#1407
Jaybundrage I've been pushing Caller SINCE HIS FIRST POST.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 20 2012 09:56 GMT
#1430
Sandroba and Mr. Wiggles, thanks for being obvious scum pushing an easy mislynch on me
Expect a big post about these two and EchelonTee tomorrow; i've got you guys, take off your hats, royalty is entering the room
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 21 2012 20:56 GMT
#1537
I'm unvoting
Wiggles is going in my town list

I almost voted Abenson without even coming back to the thread, but seeing Wiggles posting the way he does reminds me of when I'm about to be lynched as a townie. I'm catching up backwards, so I haven't seen if anyone has claimed anything, and only caught this from a spoiler in a Mattchew or an EchelonTee post.

I really view the Abenson lynch as pro-town, even if he is town
If Abenson is a pro-town PR: He needs to claim asap, and we need to assess whether or not we believe him to be a PR or scum. I don't think this will be an issue whatsoever. If Abenson is pro-town townie: It's sort of a policy lynch; I don't care if he's scum, basically. Abenson, afaik, is really rusty, and he wasn't someone I'd have wanted in LYLO when you could have players like myself, deconduo, or curu making decisions instead, if curu even makes it that far. I love Abenson, always have, always will, but this, at worst, is a "cutting the fat" lynch that wiggles was trying to push on me (he didn't know I've been in PM land a bit more than people expect). If Abenson is scum, we crack a bottle of Patron, put it on ice, hi-five, and bromance.

If you all want another candidate, I would definitely recommend EchelonTee. He and Caller were my initial scumreads, so I'm definitely wanting to go with that. I don't really have a case, it's just more the general feel of his early posting that made me believe he is scum... of course, I believed Mattchew was scum, too, but given the way the game has gone, I doubt he is.

##vote: Abenson
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 22 2012 17:49 GMT
#1572
haha
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 22 2012 18:03 GMT
#1573
On March 22 2012 06:43 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2012 13:14 EchelonTee wrote:
On March 20 2012 22:11 deconduo wrote:
Sandroba, Jaybrudage, Curu, Sentinel, Abenson, BM you guys need to claim your masons now.

this

I'm the one who prty much initiated the Abenson lynch (even though a lot of people agreed with me without expressing mcuh on the topic earlier...), so JB being on it isn't so much a bus, as a "vote for nearest lynch".

btw when I said @layabout any scum hunting, that was meant to be @jaybrundage, mbad. JB you said last night that you were going to be looking through filters, dyou have any original reads, or is it still Katina-Abenson at this point?

He wants to lynch lurkers because he's scum and too scared to do anything else lol

"klets just lynch lurkers guys i know theyre scum" is classic scum play, older than my grandpa

yeah - if i see someone proposing this this far in, or a chain lynch, i'm going to rip my hair out

On March 22 2012 07:01 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I'm learning a lot from JB. If anyone ever accuses me from now on I'll just say "you look bad tunneling a townie bro" and no one will ever think im scum

brilliant

well, i disagree
I felt like you slipped on the most recent page, but reading back, I don't see it in your other posts
I'm not going to let one weirdly worded sentence negatively effect my read on you, and considering I've only quoted you twice now, I'm beginning to believe that I'm tunneling on town, too, on you

I'd like to provide personal meta here. Dr.H, you saw how I like to out my reads as scum, make fake lists, etc?
Do you believe that I had a scumread on Caller early on in the game?
Do you feel like I had any reaction to Kurumi (i.e. did I know Kurumi was scum)?

On March 22 2012 07:07 jaybrundage wrote:
I know I'm town. So your tunneling a townie is bad. But your right me lynching scum and pushing is my reads is really scummy >.>

I haven't played meek at all this entire game. My first post was voting for Rg because i didn't like his play. You call me sheeping Palmar? Lol I thought Palmar might be scum for a long while.

Doc you act like im confirmed scum. When this game ends and I'm town. You can just see how bad your read was.

I have pushed lynches on Kurumi and I was one of the first to vote for Caller (wasn't to sure on him tho)

The funniest part is that we have the same reads and you still think im scum. Pretty funny stuff.

We are not lynching me period get over it. Would you be willing to lynch Katina tomorrow? Because that's the lynch i would like.

Almost forgot Ill try to compile a case on Katina. Im so tired tho

this is a good post

I like the point you made about not being sure about Caller. I was, but hearing you say you weren't sounds really good. It's that kind of reverse psychology that makes me believe you're probably town.
On March 22 2012 07:52 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 07:07 jaybrundage wrote:
I know I'm town. So your tunneling a townie is bad. But your right me lynching scum and pushing is my reads is really scummy >.>

I haven't played meek at all this entire game. My first post was voting for Rg because i didn't like his play. You call me sheeping Palmar? Lol I thought Palmar might be scum for a long while.

Doc you act like im confirmed scum. When this game ends and I'm town. You can just see how bad your read was.

I have pushed lynches on Kurumi and I was one of the first to vote for Caller (wasn't to sure on him tho)

The funniest part is that we have the same reads and you still think im scum. Pretty funny stuff.

We are not lynching me period get over it. Would you be willing to lynch Katina tomorrow? Because that's the lynch i would like.

Almost forgot Ill try to compile a case on Katina. Im so tired tho

You're completely missing the point of my post. "I'm town" is not a defense nor does it indicate my alignment. Since when is anyone expected to have 100% of their reads right? I'm more upset by how awful you are as a player than anything, maybe that's clouding my judgment. Either way you flip, you are a horrible player

since you said that he's awful regardless of what he flips, I want to hear what your read on him is

Tell me what your read is on jaybundrage.

On March 22 2012 08:06 Mattchew wrote:
I do find it funny how jaybrun calls anyone (me and DocH) casting suspicion on him "tunneling"



You as buddying scum? check.



On March 22 2012 08:31 jaybrundage wrote:
Not true Matt layabout was FOSing me and wanted to lynch me. I never said he was tunneling.

Doc if you think im a bad player and that is clouding your judgement on my alignment. I don't know what to say to you stop being childish maybe?

I just think what happened is that me being confident in my reads rubbed you the wrong way. Because of that you are trying to get me out of the game because you didn't like my cockiness? I don't usually play this aggressively. However nothing wrong with a play style switch.

I disagree with you. I think I have been playing very well this game. I pushed Kurumi and I also think Katina will flip red as well.

Funny Doc doesn't think I can prove that I'm not scum. Must be scum then. Doc I didn't know you played mafia jubjub style XD

you people tunneling jay need to stop

On March 22 2012 09:14 sandroba wrote:
@docH you promised you'd explain why you think JB is scum and I still see nothing. All I see is useless argument going in circles. If you think the guy is scum you don't need to convince him, you present a case for us. Please be more objective.

Are you stirring the pot, sandroba?



I've got meta on Katina, and I am completely ok with this lynch. Lurking combined with that post on 78... plus it's not even lurking, it's active lurking, that's even worse... and she has sealed her fate.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 23 2012 01:46 GMT
#1577
I have a few books I'm about halfway through, actually
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 23 2012 01:48 GMT
#1578
I just, tonight, realized it is no role reveal upon flip LOL
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 23 2012 01:48 GMT
#1579
I was like why am I not being pressured being a green, and having this many flip
I thought town was in a GREAT position, and I was merely coasting
We're approaching LYLO tomorrow...
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 23 2012 03:38 GMT
#1585
##vote: DoctorH
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 23 2012 05:35 GMT
#1589
uprising are you bussing?
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 23 2012 06:14 GMT
#1590
On March 14 2012 03:00 Katina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2012 02:55 Mattchew wrote:
i found katina
[image loading]



I love you <3 If only you weren't mafia.

What happened to this, Katina?
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 24 2012 01:44 GMT
#1607
im clear Dr.H
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 24 2012 18:25 GMT
#1612
Dr.H have you claimed?
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 25 2012 06:48 GMT
#1653
katina makes a really good point on casting doubt on, and not messaging layabout is pro town. Why open pms with someone, and not message them? It looks like seeking confirmation, and, to me, as a confirmed town, I like that.
It simplifies things

Katina is town
/speaking out against the thread

I don't see why we need to lynch Dr.H tomorrow, Curu, and you know I'm town
I'm definitely threatening to split votes on this one
I want to filter the remaining players
where are the filters?
my vote was mainly pressure... I'm not really sold on Dr.H.
I'm definitely leading tomorrow, I'm clear because of Matt
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 26 2012 21:37 GMT
#1682
I'm trying my best to sort out this mess
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 27 2012 19:32 GMT
#1700
I already tried to lynch DoctorH
Apparently people weren't satisfied with that

I am green checked, and it is LYLO, so you all need to vote with me
If I'm voting you, and you're town, you better appeal to me

My vote as of right now is going onto Katina
She just contradicted herself - twice

1) Katina attacks dr.H for muddying the waters in relation to my confirmation. Katina then attacks me in PMs to layabout. That's a snake in the grass if I've ever seen one, trying to keep out of the public eye

2) Katina attacks Dr.H for making excuses in relation to the time they have in the thread, after literally just doing so:


On March 27 2012 14:01 Katina wrote:
Sorry, life kicked in today.


and then attacks dr.h?
I feel like scum pushed 2 mislynched yesterday, and they're just happy trying to ride this one as a counterwagon
If Deconduo doesn't come off this lynch, I'm probably going to have to resignedly hop back onto it, as I'm 100% sure he is town at this point...

if it's dr.h/layabout/echelon hats off to you gentlemen, but I'm just not buying dr.h as scum
he has been pushed way too much all game, and still being pushed in LYLO? feels like a mislynch
##vote: katina

University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 27 2012 20:56 GMT
#1710
maybe i was wrong about jaybundrage after all

I have a huge townread on deconduo, why would scum have a pm checker? he's confirmably a pm checker, or so he claims, and if he has fooled me a third time then I'm going to become his personal fan - Flavor Cop

layabout just towntold to me in pm, saying that if there is a mislynch, that it will be him. Notice the language? a mislynch. That's really town. I'm upset with him that he has been playing for the hammer so much, but I have to be logical here. Why would I be upset with him? Because he's on my side - Townie

DoctorH is trying his ass off, still, after the pressure switched onto katina, to get jaybundrage lynched? Why? Because it's lylo. He is putting his personal life into this game more than he should, and needs to drop the caveman game, but he is a class act as an individual, and I will always support him. I am so very surprised that he wasn't lynched yesterday, the day before, or the day before that in relation to the Kurumi lynch. He has been slaving away, always stating his reads, and stifling over the thread - Townie

That's what made me not vote for him. I have this weird feeling in the back of my mind he isn't what we think he is. I thought, what if the mafia pushed not one mislynch, but two?

Layabout spoke out against it. Sentinel wanted to push Wiggles, Deconduo, whoever...
Sentinel was town, so is layabout. The people on it, because me and deconduo, was the 3rd voter - Katina.

Katina is scum. She has been actively lurking, and playing in PM land. That is what scum do. They don't want to contribute until pressured.

Jaybundrage was a little trickier. He is not doing what I expected, but I guess scum don't always have to be intelligent. He gets wrote off a lot because of that, yet he is still crafty, for he deceived me. I am not really that strong on this read.

Echelon, ah, Echelon. From your very first post...
literally
the same as Caller
I expected you to flip scum

DoctorH looked terrible today, but he's still pushing, so this is making more sense to me
Scum are: Katina/EchelonTee/Jaybundrage
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 27 2012 20:58 GMT
#1711
wow maybe i was wrong about echelon
if we're all happy with katina, all of a sudden, that makes no sense

dr.h is defending her as a townie too
Scum are bussing

plain and simple
let's not unvote this
there is no other logical explanation
let's let it be where there are no ties
though we know katina is going to flip red
i don't mind. It lowers their kill power to 1, so it will be 3:2 tomorrow, with more analysis.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 27 2012 22:09 GMT
#1712
@Echelon

when you said
"Being logical and reasonable throughout a game is an indicator of being town, but as town, it's impossible and frankly incorrect to remain rigid to your stances."

You say this, but is it not easier for scum to make up reasons? How is this indicative of someone being town at all?
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 27 2012 22:23 GMT
#1714
Keep the vote guys. I'm going to mow the lawn, and go out to eat with a friend.
I have been thinking about this, and I am very happy and content with this lynch.
Katina has been caught lying and being hypocritical.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Prev 1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
RongYI Cup
11:00
Qualifier 1
WardiTV1087
TKL 214
Rex138
3DClanTV 64
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
TKL 214
Rex 138
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 50961
Horang2 3261
Shuttle 2069
Stork 823
Mini 740
EffOrt 551
Larva 513
Soma 391
ggaemo 389
Rush 388
[ Show more ]
Zeus 373
ZerO 342
Hyuk 288
Light 276
firebathero 262
BeSt 175
Last 160
Leta 153
hero 126
Pusan 102
Sharp 101
Hyun 98
Barracks 91
HiyA 53
Mind 52
Sea.KH 49
Aegong 48
sorry 43
ToSsGirL 41
Free 37
Movie 29
yabsab 20
Sacsri 19
Terrorterran 17
Bale 16
Noble 12
Shine 11
Icarus 5
Dota 2
Gorgc1453
XcaliburYe700
ODPixel203
Counter-Strike
x6flipin530
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King114
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor264
Other Games
singsing2804
B2W.Neo2009
Sick155
Hui .82
ZerO(Twitch)24
Railgan1
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV43
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH228
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2164
League of Legends
• Nemesis4894
• Jankos3638
• Stunt1208
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Invitational
43m
ByuN vs Percival
Percival vs Rogue
Percival vs Classic
ByuN vs Classic
ByuN vs Rogue
Classic vs Rogue
IPSL
6h 43m
DragOn vs Sziky
Replay Cast
19h 43m
Wardi Open
22h 43m
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 3h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 22h
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
OSC
3 days
OSC
4 days
[ Show More ]
All Star Teams
5 days
INnoVation vs soO
sOs vs Scarlett
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
All Star Teams
6 days
MMA vs DongRaeGu
Rogue vs Oliveira
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
OSC
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-10
Big Gabe Cup #3
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1: W4
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Nations Cup 2026
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.