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Adam4167
Australia1426 Posts
Killer Cup, what exactly are you voting for Probulous for? From what I gather from your post, its because he was discussing policy. If that's the case, why not vote for myself, or Misder, or bluelightz? we were all discussing policy. Why single out Probulous specifically? You then go on to say you're willing to talk about another policy. Please, be clear with your reasons. As it stands I find your vote contradictory and bandwagony. Plus, you messed up the voting format and Probulous name. | ||
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rgTheSchworz
Romania425 Posts
Palmar, you are not Flash or some other god. If you flip town, we will surely take a look at your filter,but I will not take your opinion for granted. I havent seen a good town game from either you or sandro. What is a fact is that you gather support quite quickly-people pointed you as town in WW2, which I did not believe it was the case.With 2 scum factions on top of that, it was quite obvious that one would go after the other at daytime. Derp townies always exist, though here they re not a majority. Why so serious?Calm down.Vets are vets, but if scum takes over town leadership.......Lets say that it might be troublesome. | ||
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rgTheSchworz
Romania425 Posts
Plus,saying ,, listen to me and only to me'' is somewhat scummy. Scum's disadvantage is numbers, so if even half the town turns out to be useful, then we re going the right way, regardless of who s scum.They will not have a majority in even that group. | ||
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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
So, Let's start discussing more stuff! I Agree with Adam, why are you voting Prob? I don't see how discussing stuff(In this case LAL) causes much harm unless we actually adopt said policy. | ||
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rgTheSchworz
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Palmar
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rgTheSchworz
Romania425 Posts
You see, Scum are more likely to do that since if Town becomes scum-led, the game really becomes simple from their POV.They just have to mislead a few days and leave no trails and Voila. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
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Bluelightz
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On March 01 2012 12:19 Misder wrote: Awww, so slow... 1). I like lynch all liars. Lynch one lurker on Day 1 if needed- analysis takes care of the rest. I like analysis. 2). LAL, like most policy lynches, is a massively stupid idea. There are situations where a good move is to lie, blue claiming/softclaiming to draw hits for example. On March 01 2012 12:18 Probulous wrote: ROFL, the only one who posts is the one who shouldn't be lurking. Great start! LAL is a stupid policy and so is discussing it. The whole point of mafia is to make decisions based on the evidence in game. Having premade policy's that by their very nature preclude taking each circumstance on its merits, is stupid. I will not support a LAL policy. I doubt anyone would. LAL is dumb, however discussing it isn't bad at all. It gets people talking day 1 when there's no elections to stir things up. You shouldn't shoot down discussion of anything just because you disagree with it. On March 01 2012 12:41 Probulous wrote: Thanks for the reminder Adam. For reference Player List: 1. Jackal58 - USA 2. Paperscraps - USA 3. Bluelightz - Indonesia 4. Probulous - Great Southern Land 5. Snarfs - Kanucksland 6. rgTheSchworz - Romania 7. Misder - Fairy Land AKA who the fucks knows 8. Pandain - USA 9. Palmar - Iceland 10. Sandroba - USA 11. TheToast - USA 12. Adam4167 - Land Down under 13. A Killer Cuppa Tea - Neighbours with Misder 14. deconduo - Ireland This is what I have for countries based on profiles. Misder and Tea where are you boys based? Making pointless lists sets off my scumdar like crazy. On March 01 2012 13:33 Probulous wrote: @Misder I am not advocating analysing a lie. We all agree that lieing is scummy. That is all I meant by using it as a piece of data. Town should not lie unless they absolutely have to and have damn good reasons for it. If you do, it should be counted as evidence towards you being mafia. That is all, just another brick in the wall so to speak. Your case should stand on its own regardless of the lie. If the liar can't show why they did it and they looked scummy already then yes they should be lynched, but be aware that is not a policy lynch. Good post, good points. On March 01 2012 13:51 Probulous wrote: See this bugs me. It is the same for Pandain. I am trying to get people to post. I am actively pushing the thread along as best I can. What exactly do we have to avoid here? We are not on a track. I agree with Sandroba that policy talk is useless but it was brought up and I responded to those that asked me questions. However both of you guys are saying that I am spamming the thread with useless information. When I respond with my reasoning, neither of you acknowledge it. Pandain then ignores it and suggests that because I took "so long" writing it, I am hiding something. How do those things go together? Pandain calls me out for posting too much, but I am hiding something? Does anyone else find this strange? Scummy post. You are getting overly defensive over one small accusation from Pandain and a post by Toast that wasn't even directed at you. Its easy to post a lot of fluff as mafia, without actually saying anything significant. Your list of people/countries is a good example of a filler post. Stop trying to post so much and worry more about the content of your posts. You're not inspiring me so far. On March 01 2012 12:52 Misder wrote: And then what. "But maybe he had a reason to lie! He could have been doing <insert WIFOM here> and actually been trying to help town!" Do you think it's going to be net beneficial for town to have to deal with this crap (excuse the language) than for the supposed reason to lie? I don't think so. On March 01 2012 13:25 Misder wrote: If you think you can analyze lying as a piece of data correctly, go right ahead. Don't blame me when scum tricks you. On March 01 2012 13:39 Misder wrote: Again, go right ahead w/ your analysis. If you believe that you can tell if scum is lying about having good reasons or even that town had good reasons to lie, fine. Using WIFOM as an excuse to push LAL is pretty weak. The only justification for LAL is a universal rule to punish lying in any game. It only works if its used in every game. As it never has enough support in TL games its pointless to try and implement now. Your posts so far this game have been short and one dimensional. ##Vote Misder | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=315210&user=53375 | ||
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sandroba
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Palmar
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On March 01 2012 16:28 rgTheSchworz wrote: Your chances of surviving another night are now halved,sir. Best way to start this is with a feeler vote, so ##Vote: Probulous Arguing with Misder about lynching liars and lurkers is unproductive. We all knew beforehand that most players were gonna be US-based, so why bother with a list? Besides,duh, its in the profile, and we only have 14 players, not veery hard to remember. This ,,friendly chat,, provides the opportunity for scum to blend in perfectly.They arent forced in any way to react scummy, and can just sheep the towniest around.Your spam, Probulous, doesnt inspire me, because indeed it is spam.If we are gonna discuss strategy, then let it be based on names, which we can hold accountable on further days. If not, just vote between posting. A feeler vote D1 is absolutely justified,as long as you are willing to change who you are voting for once you have a strong suspicion.It provides pressure on normally presureless D1 s for scum.Waiting for scum to fuck up is lame, lets make em fuck up. Good post up to this point. Calling out Probu for posting a pointless list is spot on. However.. Ive randomed a purely awesome role this game. .. I really hate when people do this. | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On March 02 2012 01:12 Palmar wrote: I think that analysis is surprisingly bad deconduo. Why is it so bad? Can you explain that to me? Dunno I'm going through filters so I might be missing the order in which things were posted. I'm just reading the game for the first time now. | ||
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Palmar
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