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Blazinghand 11: Jitsu Wherebugsgo BloodyC0bbler DoctorHelvetica Dirkzor prplhz VisceraEyes Toadesstern Jackal58 risk.nuke chaoser all of my red reads were on BH yesterday. yeah tbh I'm pretty mad town isn't winning overwhelmingly right now. I've been lazy, but judging from how inactive this entire game is, mafia probably has just been lurking all game. You might as well have no scumbuddies, it wouldn't seem any different. You were gone for two whole days! | ||
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On February 28 2012 10:20 VisceraEyes wrote: Easier conclusion to swallow: VE is town. Your mileage may vary. so town VE goes and disappears for 2 days? What happened to the town VE from Responsibility that spammed while no one was talking to get the thread active, and complained that he was the only one talking? Why would town VE sit around and let the thread die? I'll tell you the answer: town VE wouldn't do those things. So, you're not town VE! Woot Occam's Razor. | ||
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On February 28 2012 10:24 VisceraEyes wrote: Oh man, look at how amazingly large my filter is! It's because I've been doing that self-same thing ALL GAME THIS GAME! Except, aw shucks - for the first time in like 5 years I actually decided to get schwasted for a whole weekend this weekend. Guess that means I'm scum right? Right Bugs? RIGHT?! size of filter does not equal quality of contribution. Nor does it indicate anything about consistency of activity, either. It's a fact that you've been completely inactive from halfway through day 2. It's something I noted myself; I put it down as scummy that you randomly disappeared and that you never followed through on your promise to comment before lynch. You've also still chosen to not give your thoughts on the other people you listed as scum (namely, BC.) Instead, you saw me posting in the thread and saw it as an opportunity to tunnel me, I suppose. Anyway I have no idea what you're doing, since I'm not you, but at no point in the last 48 hours have you done anything that has suggested to me that you are town. Nice charade day 1 though, I fully believed you were town for a very long time. On February 28 2012 10:25 Toadesstern wrote: he's got more pages in his filter than I have in mine. I'd consider that spamming. except you've been consistent in your activity and he has not. It's a known fact that scum generally are very active day 1 and then they drop off later. Town tend to be more consistent. On February 28 2012 10:26 VisceraEyes wrote: No, I'm personally responsible for the thread dying Toad - not spamming. Get it right. hello further misrepresentation nice to see you're still putting effort into twisting my words. On February 28 2012 10:28 prplhz wrote: Partially, you're responsible for the inactivity because people post less when there's an asshole around. So me being a dick is me being scum? Guess Palmar is scum every game, then? On February 28 2012 10:28 prplhz wrote: The bad state I was talking about was how there is virtually no scum hunting going on and none of your activity seems to be focusing on this. So what scumhunting have you done to remedy this problem, prplhz? And what the fuck do you think I've been doing if not scumhunting? I pushed BH yesterday because I legitimately believed he was scum. I pushed redFF for the same reason (after initially finding him unreadable.). I'm pushing VE for the same reason now. If I'm not scumhunting, then no one is. And you can't blame me for that. On February 28 2012 10:28 prplhz wrote: You have pushed left and right but never used it for anything, now you want to lynch VisceraEyes on a bad case. Explain how my case is bad. You assert things but you don't even justify your assertions. I have justified 100% of what I have said but you literally said you don't even have to make a case on me bc of "burden of proof." (which is bs, the burden of proof is on the accuser) On February 28 2012 10:28 prplhz wrote: You're usually unflappable but this seems kind of like an OMGUS on a player I don't think looks scum at all. What the fuck? Do you not remember XLV? I don't give a fuck what anyone thinks of OMGUS, it is in no way IMO a scum tell. It's a great way to catch scum when I know they're using bad reasons to call me scum. That's 100% the reason I caught Dr. H scum in LoTR. I OMGUSed him when he called me scum for asking for the ring, and I was correct. On February 28 2012 10:28 prplhz wrote: I think all of those problems you have with VisceraEyes are off. Do you actually think he's scum? Ofc I think he's scum, what a loaded question. Do you actually think I'm scum? You didn't even justify your vote. That's why I highly doubt you're town. Every game you talk about changing your play to be more pro-town, and when you actually roll town you look pretty pro-town. But this game is far from it. | ||
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On February 28 2012 10:34 prplhz wrote: Like, I miss the wherebugsgo who poked me in like two posts in PYP:Interesting and then concluded that I was scum while I just sat there with an open mouth thinking "How the fuck did he do that?". Instead you're hiding behind a bad case on a player. The premise for that your is "Palmar said he was getting better.". That's just fucking weird. Right now, there are 4 people in this thread, you and Toadesstern, VisceraEyes, and myself, and you're calling us all scum. What the hell? that's not at all the reason I'm accusing VE of being scum and you'd know it if you were actually reading. w/e though, you'e probably scum so i'm just wasting time responding to you atm. | ||
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On February 28 2012 10:41 Toadesstern wrote: That's a really important point I made and I'm going to bring it up again: The logical conclusion for a townie in wbg's position would be: Mafia would not try to get another wagon but unless Toad is mafia himself, therefore it's either Toad + VE mafia and VE is trying to rescue him or it's ONLY Toad mafia + a confused townie VE who joined the wrong side. OR both are townies. However, VE being mafia is while I am a townie is the most retarded thing ever. VE could hve easily joined the Toad-wagon and he did not. So now one might ask why isn't wbg asking himself those questions? I'd consider those things pretty important if I were confused about 4 people and can't figure out which of those 4 are mafia. I guess by now you guys already figured out what the funny thing about this all is: Wbg isn't asking these questions because he doesn't need to. what the fuck is the point of asking any of that you can go mindfuck yourself some more since you clearly have no idea what you're talking about you need to step up and contribute. You are almost 100% confirmed to me but you are doing nothing. Please. Do. Something. | ||
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On February 28 2012 10:48 Toadesstern wrote: wat? That question PROVES I am mafia if he really thinks the way he does. IT PROVES I AM MAFIA OR NONE OF THE GUYS HE WANTS TO LYNCH IS MAFIA. How is that pointless? He said he can deliver you 3/3 mafia if we lynch into VE / RoL / ME. VE is a confirmed townie for me right now because of what I said (that' not bad either, is it?) so 1 is wrong. I am wrong as well but instead of telling people "well that proves toad is mafia" he goes on to pressure prpl? The fuck? no, it doesn't prove anything. It's complete WIFOM because I have no fucking clue what the mafia would do in this situation. The fact that you're insinuating that I could actually find out the answers to those questions makes you look redder. | ||
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On February 28 2012 10:52 DoctorHelvetica wrote: It's funny because if I were in VE's spot as mafia and toades was town I wouldn't vote for Toades at all yes but that's what you would do. A mafia in that situation can do literally anything he wanted as long as he had the proper justification for it | ||
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On February 28 2012 10:54 Toadesstern wrote: why not? Why should mafia start a counterwagon and defend me? why shouldn't they? now you've delved into the realm of WIFOM; congratulations, you are now helping waste all of our time more efficiently. | ||
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On February 28 2012 10:54 DoctorHelvetica wrote: That's why toades point is stupid because he has no way of knowing what any 1 particular scum would act. Scum intentionally obfuscate or make inefficient moves to cause confusion. They will defend townies and attack each other, etc. agreed. However, I don't care atm because it's a waste of time. Do you think RoL is mafia? prpl? VE? I assume since you still have your vote on Toad you still think he is scum. | ||
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On February 28 2012 10:55 kitaman27 wrote: I just spent 2 hours on my power ranking  Also, I have no idea why I would be confirmed town to you. ![[image loading]](http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/2/22423/1465854-yoda1_super.jpg) it's cause you drank the good stuff | ||
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On February 28 2012 11:00 kitaman27 wrote: But why does that make me confirmed town? Are scum incapable of drinking the good stuff? :/ it doesn't make you confirmed, just near confirmed. At least, if you're not town that means we've already lost. | ||
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On February 28 2012 11:01 Toadesstern wrote: Ok, so you think VE is mafia and his masterplan is derping big time instead of going with the ez lynch and because we all see how much towncred got (according to you) from that ingenius move he just it's more likely that he's mafia? Oh crap, you're going after him now, guess his masterplan wasn't that ingenius after all, OR HE'S A FUCKING TOWNIE I see you want to continue wasting time. So you're scum then? How goes the QT? | ||
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On February 28 2012 11:02 prplhz wrote: Okay, I mean, it's just so stupid of wherebugsgo to be all "lets split our votes between these three, then we will hit scum today". It's stupid for the obvious reason that Toadesstern pointed out and it's stupid because one of them isn't even red on his next list. Right now wherebugsgo seems to legitimately be pushing the idea that out of the 5 people who are active in this thread right now, the 3 that are pushing him are all scum. This is just so bad. Does stupid and bad mean that wherebugsgo is likely to be scum? Yea. He's a smart guy, I have no fucking clue why he's doing this. who's not red on my next list? I consider RoL to be reddish but I didn't have him on that list because he didn't vote BH. I have something like 7 red reads right now. Yeah, they can't all be scum obviously. But I really wish I had a machine gun so I could just kill them all indiscriminately. | ||
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On February 28 2012 11:03 VisceraEyes wrote: Inversely, for my ease of writing. Yes, that's vastly different than what WBG asked of Syllo - for the same reasons the question I posted earlier. I asked Syllo a specific question, relevant to something I was looking at. Holy fuck. Okay VE. Here's where I prove you're full of shit. Here's what I asked syllo: On February 22 2012 06:37 wherebugsgo wrote: syllo can you give me your opinion on redFF? I think I was completely wrong about him. Here's something you asked BC: On February 21 2012 11:59 VisceraEyes wrote: /salute What are your thoughts on redFF BC? I'm almost convinced that he's just bad and not scum, but I'd like your thoughts before I act on it. Okay. WHAT THE FUCK IS THE DIFFERENCE? The straw grasping is just blowing my mind right now, I can't believe anyone would actually seriously consider this an adequate reason to call someone scum. His answer, while unhelpful to me in the long run, helped me get a read on Syllo. Not only was the question specific, I immediately gave him MY thoughts on the question I asked, encouraging him to respond in an informative and relevant way by providing context to the question. If you'll look at WBG's post, it was literally "what are your thoughts on redFF? I think I may have been mistaken all game" First of all, the question was vague as fuck. His thoughts? Does he mean regarding his skill-level or alignment? Does he mean regarding redFF's demeanor or his play in Sleeper Cell 2? Obviously we can assume he was just asking him about his alignment, but we don't REALLY know do we? Not only that, but he goes on to say "I think I may have been mistaken all game"...which doesn't provide any context at all! Why? Because all game long, all WBG has had to say is "I have no idea what redFF's alignment is! I only know that he's sooooooo bad!" rofl. So you're calling me out for being "vague" when you were equally vague with more than half of your questions to people this game. There is no way that anything I did was alignment-indicative yet you are grasping at straws to try and make it so, when you were guilty of the same thing you were accusing me of. The huge double standard is pretty much why I'm leaving my vote on VE right now. Also, I said he was unreadable for the first half of day 1. That's not all game long. What the fuck else would I ask if not syllo's thoughts on redFF's alignment? Like seriously, the fuck is this? First of all, the question was vague as fuck. His thoughts? Does he mean regarding his skill-level or alignment? Does he mean regarding redFF's demeanor or his play in Sleeper Cell 2? Obviously we can assume he was just asking him about his alignment, but we don't REALLY know do we? LOL WHAT? In what world do you come to this conclusion? this case is fucking indefensible. | ||
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On February 28 2012 11:14 Toadesstern wrote: It's not wasting time. Remember AC when noone was asking who got RB'ed the next night? That's what syllo said to me and it was, according to him, one of the most important question to ask. You want to tell me that kind of thing is wifom as well because "hell, for all I know mafia could just chose to note use their RB TO CONFUSE TOWN". No mafia would not do that. What I am talking about is not wifom, just like mafia doing /dance is not a possible explanation to why we had no kills n1. Yet you're not telling me "well that's wifom! Mafia could have willingly chose to not shoot at all to confuse town!" because you know noone would do such a thing. You didn't realize that I had to be mafia according to what you said because I know I can't be mafia and didn't think about it. It's that easy. the fuck? I'm not understanding anything you're saying atm. Ofc it's wasting time. Claiming RB and asking circular questions are two different things. In fact, different people have different opinions about RB claims too, and I have no clue what the point of that discussion is. (ex. IMO if there's no KP missing then usually roleblock claims are legit but if there's KP missing then you shouldn't trust a RB claim) Right now your questions are circular and both myself and Dr. H have independently shown you why that is true. Unless you think both myself and Dr. H are scum then I have no fucking clue why you're still trying to extend this pointless argument. Here's a hint: when two different and generally reliable players independently come up to the same conclusion for different reasons, it probably means they're right. | ||
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On February 28 2012 11:17 prplhz wrote: Yes, VisceraEyes is fucking out of his mind. That doesn't really mean anything though. The premise of your case is "Palmar said he was getting better" and that's not good enough. Find somebody else wherebugsgo or you should really be lynched. You usually push people because they're scum, not because they said some stupid shit. NO IT ISN'T LOL You keep fucking putting words in my mouth. The premise isn't "Palmar considers him good" and you KNOW that, yet you take that ONE statement and then misrepresent my ENTIRE case around it. This is why I'm so pissed off. It doesn't matter what your alignment is at this point, I'm just frustrated. | ||
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On February 28 2012 11:19 Toadesstern wrote: holy shit it's irc mafia all over again: Toad gets shot by mafia 6 times in a row. -> VE: "TOAD COULD BE MAFIA SHOOTING HIMSELF TO LOOK TOWNIE, WE SHOULD LYNCH HIM" ![[image loading]](http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5258/5509611799_82aa328735.jpg) you make 0 sense | ||
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On February 28 2012 11:16 VisceraEyes wrote: Like seriously Bugs - just calm down and ignore me - I'm not responding to your bullshit anymore as I'm 100% convinced of your guilt. ignore you why, you can't take the heat? I see 0 reason for any townie to ever say this; to tell THEIR TARGET to ignore them. Your case is so bad that any townie who sees reason would've dropped it more than 2 pages ago, yet you're still pushing it because you're scum and you passed the point of no return. Sucks to be you. | ||
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