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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
February 23 2012 21:37 GMT
#870
No comments on me all game huh Jitsu what you got to hide
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
February 23 2012 21:54 GMT
#876
On February 24 2012 06:53 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2012 06:44 syllogism wrote:
A third party power that hides flips makes no sense at all. What possible function would that serve?


I have no idea. I really don't know what kind of thirdparty roles excist and all I know about them is what I know from irc-Mafia and that Batman and Catwoman might exist. Other than that I never saw a thirdparty role in a game.

I'd say it's something like that for me:
It's probably the townie that dies when lynched but flips a day later.
It's maybe some weird 3rd party shit I don't know.
It's pretty unlikely that it's a mafia power but could be.
Maybe it's nothing of thos 3 things :p


1) Assuming redFF was town-aligned, why would he claim tracker rather than that power or whatever? That doesn't make sense.
2) Unlikely
3) Hey now that makes sense, because hiding flips helps MAFIA
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
February 23 2012 21:58 GMT
#878
On February 24 2012 06:56 Jitsu wrote:
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On February 24 2012 06:37 Blazinghand wrote:
No comments on me all game huh Jitsu what you got to hide


What do you want me to comment on? The fact that you are playing like garbage?


Yeah... I mean typically if someone's playing poorly that's something you should call out. But apparently... not? In your opinion?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
February 23 2012 22:06 GMT
#889
welp
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
February 23 2012 22:07 GMT
#890
So is this a completely terrifying "no flips, no kps" game?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
February 23 2012 22:23 GMT
#898
On February 24 2012 07:17 Toadesstern wrote:
are you drunk or did I make some grammar mistake and we're both reading something else?

Show nested quote +
I seriously doubt that it's a "normal flip game" but palmar gave a mafia the ability to hide flips every single day essentially making it a no-flip game


To me this reads as "I doubt it's a normal game and palmar ended up giving mafia an ability to make it an unnormal game".
You just bolded the last part without reading the first part or I don't know what's going on oO


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Blazinghand *
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February 23 2012 22:36 GMT
#902
On February 24 2012 07:32 Jitsu wrote:
@Blazinghand

I don't need to say you're play sucks. You garnered four(?) votes yesterday because of you're poor play. Me saying that "Blazing is playing terribly this game" doesn't need to be stated again. I can't help it if you, or some other people, are too busy derping around the thread to actually contribute something solid to town discussion instead of derailing it into the ground. You've said it yourself in previous games: if you are a town, and you get lynched, it's you're own fault for acting so scummy.


Make a case other than "4 people voted blazinghand" or it just looks to me (and to any rational observer) like you're trying to get some cred without doing anything.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
February 23 2012 22:46 GMT
#906
On February 24 2012 07:37 Jitsu wrote:
Make a case on what? I said you are playing bad. I didn't say you are scum.

Guilty conscience?


So you think I'm town
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
February 23 2012 23:17 GMT
#910
Alright guys I think we should lynch BC today. Here's the case, which others have made, and which is only stronger over a day later with him not having contributed substantially in the meantime:

So here's my case for BC

BC opens up like this:

+ Show Spoiler +
On February 21 2012 11:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 11:42 Jackal58 wrote:
Dear redFF and WBG
You both suck.
Sincerely,
Jackal58


I endorse this statement fully and from the bottom of my heart I thank you for letting me know I am not insane.

Why are we debating Policy lynches this early into the day? Seriously? This isn't a game with a player like 2010 bill murray who spams while being a dick, this isn't a game with a mod hating spammer named showtime. Instead we have for the most part a fairly solid crew devoid of spammy trolls. If you want to lynch someone for being bad, wait till they start being bad / scumlike, dont lynch them for shits and giggles.

Policy lynching people on retarded reasoning is worse than RNG votes for early discussion. Cut the nonsense out. Anyone who keeps talking about it from this post on be warned.

as a side note, VE since you are making moderate sense for the first time ever I have to give you props for impressing me two games in a row.


On February 21 2012 11:53 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
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On February 21 2012 11:50 redFF wrote:
Ace is a cunt and not in this game, stop riding his dick and play.


and yet hes better than you in near every way. What does that say about you?

On February 21 2012 11:59 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 11:56 redFF wrote:
On February 21 2012 11:53 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On February 21 2012 11:50 redFF wrote:
Ace is a cunt and not in this game, stop riding his dick and play.


and yet hes better than you in near every way. What does that say about you?

him being a cunt has nothing to do with his skill at mafia.


I was more referencing the fact your behaving worse than he normally does (he is better than you). As you are being a total douche canoe yet don't carry the level of skill or better than him I was referencing that you were deserving of a far lower and baser title.

I am free to let others pick for you as I simply switch to different and more entertaining terms. Now, shall we play instead of focusing on how fun it is that you play in the shallow end of the sandbox all alone.


This is BC being mad, unhelpful, and criticising the discussion without legitimately helping or doing anything. This isn't very BC-like and isn't really helping the town at all.

Then he's actually kinda noncomittal on redFF:
+ Show Spoiler +

On February 21 2012 12:03 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 11:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
On February 21 2012 11:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On February 21 2012 11:42 Jackal58 wrote:
Dear redFF and WBG
You both suck.
Sincerely,
Jackal58


I endorse this statement fully and from the bottom of my heart I thank you for letting me know I am not insane.

Why are we debating Policy lynches this early into the day? Seriously? This isn't a game with a player like 2010 bill murray who spams while being a dick, this isn't a game with a mod hating spammer named showtime. Instead we have for the most part a fairly solid crew devoid of spammy trolls. If you want to lynch someone for being bad, wait till they start being bad / scumlike, dont lynch them for shits and giggles.

Policy lynching people on retarded reasoning is worse than RNG votes for early discussion. Cut the nonsense out. Anyone who keeps talking about it from this post on be warned.

as a side note, VE since you are making moderate sense for the first time ever I have to give you props for impressing me two games in a row.


/salute

What are your thoughts on redFF BC? I'm almost convinced that he's just bad and not scum, but I'd like your thoughts before I act on it.


Honestly I think he may be suffering from something like a bat to the back of the head. That or a level of arrogance unseen since showtime. As it stands now short of recommending a terrible idea and being a retarded troll (which is a smiteworthy offense if he keeps it up) I see him more as someone to mock / ignore than take seriously. I know I am moderately guilty of this via my last few posts, however anyone continuing the trend of useless discussion / just trading insults with redff are most likely not playing with town interests in heart. There are a few players already guilty of this obviously.

I am currently more intrigued at the people who have let policy discussion run so damn rampant for even this short a duration of a game who (in my mind) should know better.


This is actually a worthless post. "He's being bad, mocking poeple, but so am I, there are a few players like this, oh hey look a policy discussion"
On February 21 2012 12:09 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
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On February 21 2012 12:06 redFF wrote:
Actually bc I'm kind of pissed you're calling me the troll when any personal flaming/animosity started with wbg's first posts of the game, everything I've said has been a response to that. Before that I was being perfectly civil, maybe bad and stupid, but not a dick.


Trolls aren't always flaming asshats.

I find that the way you continued talking about policy lynching troll like. The continuing of posts between you and wbg (screams troll from both of you) is bad. I am moderately guilty as well, but as someone who has played with ace for years and as he is not in this game it is moderately disrespectful to trash him. You also said things I viewed as bad

Pushing what I will view as bad agendas or bad forms of play is something I near always comment on.


The kettle and the pot calling each other black


On February 21 2012 12:15 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 12:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
On February 21 2012 12:03 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On February 21 2012 11:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
On February 21 2012 11:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On February 21 2012 11:42 Jackal58 wrote:
Dear redFF and WBG
You both suck.
Sincerely,
Jackal58


I endorse this statement fully and from the bottom of my heart I thank you for letting me know I am not insane.

Why are we debating Policy lynches this early into the day? Seriously? This isn't a game with a player like 2010 bill murray who spams while being a dick, this isn't a game with a mod hating spammer named showtime. Instead we have for the most part a fairly solid crew devoid of spammy trolls. If you want to lynch someone for being bad, wait till they start being bad / scumlike, dont lynch them for shits and giggles.

Policy lynching people on retarded reasoning is worse than RNG votes for early discussion. Cut the nonsense out. Anyone who keeps talking about it from this post on be warned.

as a side note, VE since you are making moderate sense for the first time ever I have to give you props for impressing me two games in a row.


/salute

What are your thoughts on redFF BC? I'm almost convinced that he's just bad and not scum, but I'd like your thoughts before I act on it.


Honestly I think he may be suffering from something like a bat to the back of the head. That or a level of arrogance unseen since showtime. As it stands now short of recommending a terrible idea and being a retarded troll (which is a smiteworthy offense if he keeps it up) I see him more as someone to mock / ignore than take seriously. I know I am moderately guilty of this via my last few posts, however anyone continuing the trend of useless discussion / just trading insults with redff are most likely not playing with town interests in heart. There are a few players already guilty of this obviously.

I am currently more intrigued at the people who have let policy discussion run so damn rampant for even this short a duration of a game who (in my mind) should know better.


Come on guy....COME ON. You know what I'm asking. Do you think he's scum?

Also, I thought we were well beyond policy-discussion - I've put forth a scum-candidate and several people have joined the wagon (with little to no reasoning)....and some (and by some I mean WBG) have even gone on to defend him - citing meta resources that point to badTownRedFF. I mean, did you miss all this in reading? Why are you trying to color this all as policy discussion? What's up yo?


its what? 5 hours into the day? I would like to believe redff isn't this horrendous as scum to be caught this quickly. However that is wifom with someone of his experience. The only read I have on him as of now is Bad. Bad town or bad mafia. Hell, I think chaoser is also bad for defending posting town reads as a viable move at this stage in the game. It is only at all useful if people are posting clear scum reads along with clear town reads to make them fully accountable rather than "contributing" without doing much.

As for coloring it up to policy discussion, the main point you first raised (I will re-read to see what your entire argument is in exact detail so i stress the first point i saw) was his push on tyrran via policy of being bad. Factor in the mass level of general annoyance with him via his recent behaviour outside of game it is not outside the realms of possibility people are "policy" pushing him based on him being a total wad.


This is actually semi reasonable but it's an important thing to note to contrast with his next post:

On February 22 2012 10:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Why did I subject myself to read this fucking nonsense. Do I have to say this? Role does not equal alignment. Redff claiming his role in hopes to confirm his alignment is horseshit. In an unknown setup and him claiming that there may be multi target abilities the chances of mafia having a role to find said abilities is just as within reason as the town.

He then states that if he is roleblocked to lynch him, but says its not optimal to lynch claimed blues? Contradiction and sounds like hes just finding any reason to stay alive.

This level of play is so insanely bad that it makes me sad. He knows all this and yet still does the play to create a total shit fest of a thread and does not in anyway create a pro town environment.

As for syllo.

Get off my nuts. 5 hours is never enough information to actually commit to a read especially given my horrible ability to differentiate between bad play and bad scum. Find other straw men to go burn.

##vote redff



Now let's take a look at where we are so far

1) BC hasn't analyzed dick all game
2) redFF claims tracker
3) this causes BC to say "well before the claim he seemed iffy, but claiming tracker means he could be a scum-aligned tracker? maybe there are multiple trackers!"

This is possibly the worst reason to get on the redFF wagon I could think of.

He then continues to defend himself not with reason but with rage and incoherences, since there's no real reason for his defense. He claims that there's nothing you can really do day 1 in a closed setup, and generally makes excuses.

As he avoids the noose, and here's what he promises:
On February 23 2012 06:52 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 06:51 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
That's fine then. Can I expect to see some contribution beyond criticism from you on Day 2, BC?

I'm pretty sure prplhz is scum and I'll make my case on him tonight in case I die. RedFF seems likely as well, but we'll see when the flip happens. BC has responded fairly well to the pressure as far as explaining himself in my opinion, all that's lacking is for him to make some positive play or follow through with his criticisms by scumhunting on the second day.



correct.



And yet here we are, over a day later. Was BC so sure he wouldn't die overnight? Will we see anything at all useful from him today?

I don't think there's anything valuable coming out of BC because he's trying to be unvaluable. His attacks were shoddy, his vote on redFF was antireasoned (he provided a reason that was literally bad), and his defense was empty and hollow.

And here we are, greeted by crushing silence from him.

What's the deal, BC?

##Vote: BloodyC0bbler
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
February 23 2012 23:50 GMT
#914
On February 24 2012 08:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2012 08:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Good idea.


Here's a good neutral topic we can at least have a conversation about.

I think Blazinghand is scum and his vote on BloodyC0bbler serves as a.....fuck, I don't know, like an ANTI-lightning rod. I think it serves to remove credibility from the wagon by his sheer presence, repulsing votes. I think this was planned.

What do you think about Blazinghand?


If you think that's the case, then join me and lynch BC. My case is reasonable. Maybe you think I played scummy D1, but my case is fundamentally reasonable and it cannot be denied.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
February 23 2012 23:54 GMT
#917
On February 24 2012 08:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2012 08:50 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 24 2012 08:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
On February 24 2012 08:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Good idea.


Here's a good neutral topic we can at least have a conversation about.

I think Blazinghand is scum and his vote on BloodyC0bbler serves as a.....fuck, I don't know, like an ANTI-lightning rod. I think it serves to remove credibility from the wagon by his sheer presence, repulsing votes. I think this was planned.

What do you think about Blazinghand?


If you think that's the case, then join me and lynch BC. My case is reasonable. Maybe you think I played scummy D1, but my case is fundamentally reasonable and it cannot be denied.


Your case is nothing that hasn't already been said BH. I'm giving BC a chance to manipulate me (or try). Hold your horses. He's still on my list sir.


Well, believe it or not I am rather comfortable changing my vote if I should later determine him to be a town player. For now my vote is on the player who I believe is scum.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
February 23 2012 23:59 GMT
#922
On February 24 2012 08:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2012 08:54 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 24 2012 08:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
On February 24 2012 08:50 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 24 2012 08:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
On February 24 2012 08:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Good idea.


Here's a good neutral topic we can at least have a conversation about.

I think Blazinghand is scum and his vote on BloodyC0bbler serves as a.....fuck, I don't know, like an ANTI-lightning rod. I think it serves to remove credibility from the wagon by his sheer presence, repulsing votes. I think this was planned.

What do you think about Blazinghand?


If you think that's the case, then join me and lynch BC. My case is reasonable. Maybe you think I played scummy D1, but my case is fundamentally reasonable and it cannot be denied.


Your case is nothing that hasn't already been said BH. I'm giving BC a chance to manipulate me (or try). Hold your horses. He's still on my list sir.


Well, believe it or not I am rather comfortable changing my vote if I should later determine him to be a town player. For now my vote is on the player who I believe is scum.


Oh, I believe it - your buddy was actually in danger of dying yesterday, you had to do something right?. XD


Who was my vote on at the end of the day
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
February 24 2012 00:02 GMT
#924
On February 24 2012 09:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2012 08:59 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 24 2012 08:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
On February 24 2012 08:54 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 24 2012 08:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
On February 24 2012 08:50 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 24 2012 08:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
On February 24 2012 08:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Good idea.


Here's a good neutral topic we can at least have a conversation about.

I think Blazinghand is scum and his vote on BloodyC0bbler serves as a.....fuck, I don't know, like an ANTI-lightning rod. I think it serves to remove credibility from the wagon by his sheer presence, repulsing votes. I think this was planned.

What do you think about Blazinghand?


If you think that's the case, then join me and lynch BC. My case is reasonable. Maybe you think I played scummy D1, but my case is fundamentally reasonable and it cannot be denied.


Your case is nothing that hasn't already been said BH. I'm giving BC a chance to manipulate me (or try). Hold your horses. He's still on my list sir.


Well, believe it or not I am rather comfortable changing my vote if I should later determine him to be a town player. For now my vote is on the player who I believe is scum.


Oh, I believe it - your buddy was actually in danger of dying yesterday, you had to do something right?. XD


Who was my vote on at the end of the day


The guy who didn't die. So shut the fuck up about it.


well then I didn't really "save my buddy" unless I was saving him by voting for him right
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
February 24 2012 00:04 GMT
#926
Why are you asking yourself a question
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
February 24 2012 00:08 GMT
#929
On February 24 2012 09:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
I responded to your question with the quote, and asked you a question.

Why are you playing like a retard? I know you're better than this Blaze. I played with you as town before, I know you're capable of more. I know you're fucking scum Blaze, why are you pushing me?


Wat where am I pushing you >.>

I'm pretty sure you're pushing me and I'm pushing BC lol
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
February 24 2012 00:31 GMT
#933
##unvote bloodyc0bbler
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
February 24 2012 00:43 GMT
#938
On February 24 2012 09:38 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2012 09:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
On February 24 2012 09:31 Blazinghand wrote:
##unvote bloodyc0bbler


Well, that didn't take much.

I appreciate the effort BC. If your quality of posting stays at least close to the quality of your last post, I can entertain the possibility of lynching others first.

What are your thoughts on WBG BC?


at the moment an aggressive asshat who needs to shape up or ship out.


From what I gather he's always an aggressive asshat
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
February 24 2012 00:55 GMT
#945
On February 24 2012 09:54 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2012 09:51 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On February 24 2012 09:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
On February 24 2012 09:38 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On February 24 2012 09:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
On February 24 2012 09:31 Blazinghand wrote:
##unvote bloodyc0bbler


Well, that didn't take much.

I appreciate the effort BC. If your quality of posting stays at least close to the quality of your last post, I can entertain the possibility of lynching others first.

What are your thoughts on WBG BC?


at the moment an aggressive asshat who needs to shape up or ship out.


By your estimation, how much "aggressive asshattery" is it going to take before he's no longer able to "shape up" enough and has to be "shipped out"? That's a really really wishywashy stance on someone who's active when you're largest gripe with RoL is his inactivity sir.



RoL's biggest tell in near all games as red that I can recall is his activity level. He lurks and will bust out excuses as to why he was inactive but always appears when he has to (called out or to avoid being heavily suspected, etc..) whereas town he even when busy with life shite always has quality posts if inactive.

As for how much it will take for wbg is similar to what I would expect what it will take for myself or RoL. IE contribute. I am overall fine with aggressive posting but aside from a few of his posts he has come off as someone attempting to avoid leaving a huge mark on the thread in solid opinions. He obviously has had some solid posts, but he has a ton of fluff ones as well.

I agree with you assessment of RoL


In Purgatory that is how he played as well (as scum).
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February 24 2012 01:07 GMT
#949
I don't like risk.nuke. He did nothing but make some vague complaints about redFF, then nakedly voted BC with no explanation, and when questioned, was like:

On February 23 2012 06:46 risk.nuke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 06:42 Dirkzor wrote:
15 min to lynch.

Risk you are around?!? Any thought instead of just voting BC?!

Yeah I don't want to lynch redFF, just got home. So I threw my vote on BC because I like syllo.


And has since disappeared from the thread. He's probably hanging out with his scumteam being like "hey guys check out this mad lurking skill" and lurking.

##vote: risk.nuke
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February 24 2012 01:09 GMT
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On February 24 2012 10:07 Toadesstern wrote:
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On February 24 2012 10:07 Blazinghand wrote:
I don't like risk.nuke. He did nothing but make some vague complaints about redFF, then nakedly voted BC with no explanation, and when questioned, was like:

On February 23 2012 06:46 risk.nuke wrote:
On February 23 2012 06:42 Dirkzor wrote:
15 min to lynch.

Risk you are around?!? Any thought instead of just voting BC?!

Yeah I don't want to lynch redFF, just got home. So I threw my vote on BC because I like syllo.


And has since disappeared from the thread. He's probably hanging out with his scumteam being like "hey guys check out this mad lurking skill" and lurking.

##vote: risk.nuke

and I don't like that you don't like him because I don't like him either

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If that's the case, then make your own read and judge this indepently for yourself. I think he's scum and am voting him, and would like you to do so as well-- but if you don't think he's scum simply because you are suspicious of me, try to just do an objective analysis of him and see what you think
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