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On February 27 2012 07:52 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 07:47 Dirkzor wrote:On February 27 2012 07:30 Toadesstern wrote:On February 27 2012 07:23 layabout wrote: Toad, how could he answer your question?
he's not supposed to. It was rhetorical and I'm just saying it looks really strange that we have not a single suspicious guy flipping because of vigs. At least both syllo and Jackal look like mafia work. I disagree: Jackal could very well have been a Town vig... Jackal is hard to read and he havent really been Mr. Helpful. If a vig hit Jackal I think they might as well claim so
Agree. My point was basicly that I can't find a reason for scum to shoot jackal so I think it was a town hit.
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Only private? I was sergeant in real life =/
Is that list in order of who lurks the most?
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I'll do a short Q&A for you guys.
Q: Is DrH's filter long? A: There is not a precise answer to that. That depends on game length, game type and what you define as long. But the purpose of this Q&A the answer would be: Yes. 6 pages and counting.
Q: Have DrH called anyone scum? A: Yes. As a matter of fact he have.
Q: How many have he called scum? A: Let me see... *counting counting* Lets say more then a handful.
Q: Have DrH made cases for any of these so called scum players? A: Oh yes. He very much have. He have made 3 big ones at least. On RoL, Dirk and VE.
Q: Have DrH actively pushed for a lynch for any of these people. A: No.
Q: Why not? If he think they are scum why not try to convince others so they'll hang? A: No one knows. DrH works alone and in mysterious ways. It would be normal town play to do so.
Q: Is he scum himself then? A: What a observant questioneer. He might.
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Prplhz why do you want to remove focus from the players who are currently lynchtargets?
First you tried with Tyrran and no one supported you so now you want to lynch chaoser?
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You're inconsistent. You say that we should be able to get a decent read. Then you say you can't see any of them as scum. Are they all town then?
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While I was sleeping DrH have accomplished to add 2-3 more page to his filter without saying anything. He have called 6+ player scummy but made no cases or really pushed for their lynch. He called out toad for cluttering up the thread but continued to do so himself the same way he have done earlier.
##Vote DrH
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On February 28 2012 19:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2012 19:14 Dirkzor wrote: While I was sleeping DrH have accomplished to add 2-3 more page to his filter without saying anything. He have called 6+ player scummy but made no cases or really pushed for their lynch. He called out toad for cluttering up the thread but continued to do so himself the same way he have done earlier.
##Vote DrH That's not at all why I called Toad out, I don't think I even mentioned him spamming at all
On February 28 2012 12:27 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Why would a scum VE push you if you're also scum?
Why would a scum VE abandon the case he established on Day 2 and push you instead, if you're town? You're assuming that EVERY scum in the game MUST bandwagon you if you're town, why the fuck are you so special? Yes, it's an easy bandwagon. That doesn't lead us to a single thing except worthless speculation.
I'm not assuming WBG is town either btw
You've done a good job of diverting the conversation into something totally useless. Unless anyone else in the game is dumb enough to think you're making a point I'm going to ignore this line of conversation now.
Have any interest in establishing why YOU are innocent or why we should lynch someone other than you or VE and who that is? Your whole play right not will accomplish nothing except maybe:
1. Setting yourself up to get bussed and then buddies push a town-VE lynch Day 3 2. Preventing VE from getting lynched. By the way, VE never "defended" you literally all he did was make a case on somebody other than you. 3. Creates useless confusing conversation in town, distracts from lurkers etc.
Hey, by Toades' logic, all you have to do to be 100% proven confirmed town is to push a lynch OTHER than Toadesstern. This proves you are townie, so everyone go ahead and confirm themselves so we can find all the scum!
The exact same points can be made of you in my opinion.
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I already acknowledge you made cases yesterday. No one is saying you havent. I'm saying that you haven't done anything the last 8 hour. Even if you have made a lot of posts.
Yes you have pushed Toad. You called him many bad things. I agree that most of toads argumentation regarding "WBG is scum because WBG doesn't think like a townie would" are bad logic and you were right to point it out. But you have NOT pushed for his lynch. Point out 1 post of yours where you are trying to convince others that Toad is scum?
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Look. Either you are misunderstanding my post because I'm not clear or you misunderstand on purpose to make me look bad.
When did I admit that you made any case the last 8 hours? I have not. I said that you haven't done anything the last 8+ hours. That include making cases, pushing your scumreads for lynch and generate a good town atmosphere. I combined this with my Q&A earlier where I also noted that you haven't really pushed this game forward in any way. You have just stated a few reads and then just followed the current to lynch.
I said you have pushed toad. But you have NOT pushed to get him lynched. Thats two completely different things.You haven't even stated in this thread that you are voting for him? Why not? Would that not be a perfect way to try to get others to vote for him aswell? I couldn't care less about the actual points of your "case" (which i can't see. You just been shooting down his poor logic and reasoning) on toad since thats not what I'm pointing out here. Reason I brought up that one point is because its true about you aswell. What I'm pointing out is that you are not pushing any agenda. Not scum, not your own and not town. You're just here.
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On February 28 2012 23:32 Jitsu wrote:There is so much anti-town shit going up in here. Dirkzor, according to you, Dr.H has so nothing in the past eight hours. Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 08:10 Dirkzor wrote:On February 27 2012 07:52 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On February 27 2012 07:47 Dirkzor wrote:On February 27 2012 07:30 Toadesstern wrote:On February 27 2012 07:23 layabout wrote: Toad, how could he answer your question?
he's not supposed to. It was rhetorical and I'm just saying it looks really strange that we have not a single suspicious guy flipping because of vigs. At least both syllo and Jackal look like mafia work. I disagree: Jackal could very well have been a Town vig... Jackal is hard to read and he havent really been Mr. Helpful. If a vig hit Jackal I think they might as well claim so Agree. My point was basicly that I can't find a reason for scum to shoot jackal so I think it was a town hit. Show nested quote +On February 28 2012 02:35 Dirkzor wrote: Only private? I was sergeant in real life =/
Is that list in order of who lurks the most? Show nested quote +On February 28 2012 06:10 Dirkzor wrote: I'll do a short Q&A for you guys.
Q: Is DrH's filter long? A: There is not a precise answer to that. That depends on game length, game type and what you define as long. But the purpose of this Q&A the answer would be: Yes. 6 pages and counting.
Q: Have DrH called anyone scum? A: Yes. As a matter of fact he have.
Q: How many have he called scum? A: Let me see... *counting counting* Lets say more then a handful.
Q: Have DrH made cases for any of these so called scum players? A: Oh yes. He very much have. He have made 3 big ones at least. On RoL, Dirk and VE.
Q: Have DrH actively pushed for a lynch for any of these people. A: No.
Q: Why not? If he think they are scum why not try to convince others so they'll hang? A: No one knows. DrH works alone and in mysterious ways. It would be normal town play to do so.
Q: Is he scum himself then? A: What a observant questioneer. He might. Show nested quote +On February 28 2012 18:47 Dirkzor wrote: Prplhz why do you want to remove focus from the players who are currently lynchtargets?
First you tried with Tyrran and no one supported you so now you want to lynch chaoser? Show nested quote +On February 28 2012 19:04 Dirkzor wrote: You're inconsistent. You say that we should be able to get a decent read. Then you say you can't see any of them as scum. Are they all town then? Show nested quote +On February 28 2012 19:14 Dirkzor wrote: While I was sleeping DrH have accomplished to add 2-3 more page to his filter without saying anything. He have called 6+ player scummy but made no cases or really pushed for their lynch. He called out toad for cluttering up the thread but continued to do so himself the same way he have done earlier.
##Vote DrH I just copy and pasted the entire last page to you're filter. It was painful, but I did it anyway. Save the last two posts (which are attacking a player who is actively contributing to the town) you have given us absolutely nothing. Nothing. All of the shit near the top is fluff. You are speculating (much like I was) but you were building on it. Trying to take off with it and run, and push it deeper into the ground. Looking back, I was lost and trying to contribute to the thread somehow, but you try to almost ENCOURAGE this kind of shit, and make it look like you are at least trying to contribute. Then, when the speculation is over, you stop and disappear. Then you post a fucking Q&A that leads you to the conclusion that you have a null read on DrH. But, the point of the entire thing is to discredit whatever DrH is saying. wat Then later on, you do the same thing, only more boldly. You actually vote for him. With a shoddy case at that. Probably with the worst reasoning possible in my book. Because his filter is long?? You're case is actually based on the fact that his filter...is long. In his "Q&A" he says that he can't get a read on DrH. Then 4 votes later, posts that he thinks that DocH is scum and wants him dead. I asked DrH is he thought that Toades and Dirkzor could be mafia together. I find it a bit humerous that as DrH is attacking Toad, Toad is sitting here defending himself and trying to look at other people...while Dirkzor comes in and tries to discredit and actually votes to lynch DrH. Chainsaw Defense much? Toades Dirkzor
I don't know why you don't like me much. Well I have a hunch.
Your post is full of misreading, misunderstanding and misrepresentation that it hurts my eyes.
I've never said DrH was a null read to me. I never said I couldn't get a read on him. The whole point of my Q&A was to point out what I found scummy about DrH behavior so far. I did so without explicitly stating "I find him scum" "I want him dead". I'm sure if you did not understand that. When have I said he was scummy beacuse is filter is long? I think he is scum because dispite his long filter he haven't really pushed any agenda. He just flows by with weak scumreads. I don't care if toad dies. The fact is that I find it hard to find any town reads this game so everyone can go commit suicide and I'll be happy. Also toad is/was not in any danger of getting lynched (or wasn't) he had what... 1 maybe 2 votes?
If i wanted to defend him I would have pushed someone easier to get lynched... I'm not stupid.
Regarding RoL:
I could get behind lynching him. He is not here. He haven't done anything particularly pro town. He is playing like he did in purgatory: Feigning activity, getting mad when people don't agree and made excuses.
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A day role? You say once per cycle, does that mean 1 every day/night or 1 time per day or 1 time per day + 1 time per night?
And you're right its not a role that can confirm you.
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On February 29 2012 05:18 Tyrran wrote: Okay, so mafia likely has 2 KP, because i dont think any player here is stupid enough to vig shot syllo. Also, with RoL getting modkilled, i moved my vote to prplhz.
Stop with the RoL is getting modkilled. We don't know that. Stop saying that.
DrH: Why did you bring up your role now a few hours before lynch? It's completely irrelevant and you're not going to get lynched anyway.
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WBG: okay. If you say so. *grumbling about reading comprehensions and stupid people*
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I like that I masterminded that lynch. You claimed earlier that you pushed that lynch? But now suddenly I've masterminded it. I actually thought he was scum...
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Which lynch would provide the most information?
And no this is not a trick question.
If player X flipped scum how many other would you be able to see as scum?
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Thats a question to everyone btw...
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I'm torn between DrH, Prplhz or WBG.
So I'm wondering...
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Fuck this.
##Vote Prplhz
Someone have to be scum... If prplhz is it would explain some things...
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On February 29 2012 04:19 Kurumi wrote: This game is dominated by scum deciding which lynch and when. Sad. What did you mean? Are this happening now?
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