EPTlol @ MannerKiss dropping a one liner and fading away
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EchelonTee
United States5239 Posts
lol @ MannerKiss dropping a one liner and fading away | ||
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blae000
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Janaan
United States381 Posts
1. It's already been mentioned, but I think that gumshoe's poll, while not a very useful idea, came from a newbie trying to find a cool way to start discussion and help the town. I'm not really getting a scummy vibe from it. 2. The bout between Sloosh and EchelonTee. I'm seeing Sloosh using a hint of WIFOM reasoning, but not enough for me to call it scummy action. I will keep my eye on him, though. As far as EchelonTee goes, I actually follow his reasoning pretty well, he does seem to be getting a bit defensive, though. 3. Something I'm really concerned about right now is that there seems to be a few players who have posted since the game started, but only in the most fluffy of ways. Specifically, jaj22, DimmuKlok, trackd00r, MannerKiss, and to a lesser extent, Steveling and TKHawkins. I understand if they didn't have the time to do more than just check in at the start of the game, but still, for so many people to just put out one or two fairly useless posts is overall not a good pro-town atmosphere. We HAVE to find some way to get people involved and posting. One player that concerns me right now is MannerKiss. First he gets called out to provide some decent content by DoYouHas, then he posts a single sentence acknowledging DoYouHas's post, but doesn't post any content. I'm getting slightly scummy vibes from his play right now. It's worth looking into as we go forward. | ||
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DimmuKlok
United States225 Posts
On February 17 2012 17:11 Janaan wrote: 3. Something I'm really concerned about right now is that there seems to be a few players who have posted since the game started, but only in the most fluffy of ways. Specifically, jaj22, DimmuKlok, trackd00r, MannerKiss, and to a lesser extent, Steveling and TKHawkins. I understand if they didn't have the time to do more than just check in at the start of the game, but still, for so many people to just put out one or two fairly useless posts is overall not a good pro-town atmosphere. We HAVE to find some way to get people involved and posting. One player that concerns me right now is MannerKiss. First he gets called out to provide some decent content by DoYouHas, then he posts a single sentence acknowledging DoYouHas's post, but doesn't post any content. I'm getting slightly scummy vibes from his play right now. It's worth looking into as we go forward. Alright, lets take a look. MannerKiss: I think it's unanimous that we would like to hear more from him. His first post was a simple one line introduction, and his second was his one line reply to DoYouHas, which was almost humorous in how suspicious it sounded. Jaj22: He was the one that initially started the conversation about lynching lurkers. I don't agree with his stance. I would rather not have a lynch than lynch a lurker on the first day. I'm not sure if his posts are much to be suspicious over, but worth keeping an eye on. Me: I don't see how someone could read my post and think it didn't have a pro-town atmosphere, but that's your opinion. Trackd00r: I found his first post to be useful and agreed with some of what he said. He never contributed again after that, but it's still pretty early. I don't see the anti-town atmosphere in his post. | ||
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zelblade
Australia901 Posts
Next, Lurker lynch v.s. no lynch. Although I would definately prefer it if we could find scum through analysis, if we cannot find any decent targert, I would definately prefer lynching a lurker vs a no lynch, simply because lurking is anti-town, and scum have a tendancy to lurk. I dont have the time right now to take a proper look at the thread (have taken a quick glance) and thus will not comment on what has happened till tomorrow where I will read through it properly. Have also played one game on TL, Newbie Mini Mafia III. Played pretty horribly in it though =( Will try to do much better this game. On that note, to the first time players, dont be afraid to voice out your opinions, and try to sound confident. Made the retarded mistake of being kind of scared of posting "scummy" things in that game after being called out and helped bury myself with my overly apologetic attitude and weak stance in the first day. Remember, as town one of our main aims is to establish our innocence - and the best way to do so is simply to take an active role in the thread - pushing your own reads and being confident in your own abilities. Give off the impression of being fearless, not the impression of being afraid and that you have something to hide. | ||
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blae000
Norway1640 Posts
On February 17 2012 17:11 Janaan wrote: Alrighty, after reading the thread and what filters we have, I have a few thoughts. 1. It's already been mentioned, but I think that gumshoe's poll, while not a very useful idea, came from a newbie trying to find a cool way to start discussion and help the town. I'm not really getting a scummy vibe from it. 2. The bout between Sloosh and EchelonTee. I'm seeing Sloosh using a hint of WIFOM reasoning, but not enough for me to call it scummy action. I will keep my eye on him, though. As far as EchelonTee goes, I actually follow his reasoning pretty well, he does seem to be getting a bit defensive, though. 3. Something I'm really concerned about right now is that there seems to be a few players who have posted since the game started, but only in the most fluffy of ways. Specifically, jaj22, DimmuKlok, trackd00r, MannerKiss, and to a lesser extent, Steveling and TKHawkins. I understand if they didn't have the time to do more than just check in at the start of the game, but still, for so many people to just put out one or two fairly useless posts is overall not a good pro-town atmosphere. We HAVE to find some way to get people involved and posting. One player that concerns me right now is MannerKiss. First he gets called out to provide some decent content by DoYouHas, then he posts a single sentence acknowledging DoYouHas's post, but doesn't post any content. I'm getting slightly scummy vibes from his play right now. It's worth looking into as we go forward. So I have read through the thread so far. BTW, this is my first ever mafia game. First I've got to say that I agree with the first two point you make. The gumshoe poll feels like a fairly unimportant post, just a (bad;P) suggestion to start off the game. In Sloosh vs ET I also sided with ET, although I feel like he overreacted and got a bit to defensive, a bit to fast. But Sloosh arguing with slight WIFOM felt more suspicious to me. Then again, they had the first big discussion, the others (including me) had not posted much yet. So, it might aswell be two townies trying their best to avoid getting the bandwagon on their name. To early to say anything for sure. Then about getting people involved. This has probably been discussed countless times in mafia history. I have a lot of studying to do, so I'll do my best, but I'm 100% not going to be the most active. The big thing I wanted to bring up is language. I'm from Norway, I'm not confident in my english at all. And there are alot of wellspoken gents in these games. So if that's the case for some of the poeple who havent posted, hopefully they read my terrible english and gains confidence enough to post a few lines here and there. Other than that I'm pretty much ready to rumble. ^^ | ||
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jaj22
United Kingdom1376 Posts
Ok, I'm going to explain why you're acquiring suspicion, just in case you haven't figured it. Calling someone out is almost universally a pro-town action. Therefore your accusation is baseless. If you're town, please post some better-justified opinions as soon as possible. If you're scum, carry on as you are. Gumshoe: I'd dismiss Gumshoe as newbie-with-a-plan except for these points: 1. There was a rush of unclaimed mafia votes immediately after he posted, suggesting possible synchronised collusion. 2. He didn't vote town himself, at least not within 20 minutes of posting. Considering the wording of the post, that's stunningly hypocritical. On the other hand he's very active, so if he's scum he'll probably dig himself a deeper hole soon enough. EchelonTee vs SlOosh: Nothing too surprising here. EchelonTee posting like he just solo'd a game as scum (re: Normal Mini Mafia), SlOosh still a bit prone to confirmation bias. They're both looking ok to me so far. Zelblade: Read your own post, then follow your own advice. This game takes what, 10 minutes to read so far? Accuse someone. Anyone. We're not looking for 50 line cases here. This goes for Trackd00r too, although this is his first game so I'm going to be nicer to him. Steveling: Ok, it's partly my fault that you've made four posts with zero suspicions, but this cannot go on trackd00r So you've been keeping an eye on the players from Newbie Mini III. What do you think of them so far? | ||
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
On February 18 2012 00:30 jaj22 wrote: MannerKiss: Ok, I'm going to explain why you're acquiring suspicion, just in case you haven't figured it. Calling someone out is almost universally a pro-town action. Therefore your accusation is baseless. If you're town, please post some better-justified opinions as soon as possible. If you're scum, carry on as you are. Gumshoe: I'd dismiss Gumshoe as newbie-with-a-plan except for these points: 1. There was a rush of unclaimed mafia votes immediately after he posted, suggesting possible synchronised collusion. 2. He didn't vote town himself, at least not within 20 minutes of posting. Considering the wording of the post, that's stunningly hypocritical. On the other hand he's very active, so if he's scum he'll probably dig himself a deeper hole soon enough. EchelonTee vs SlOosh: Nothing too surprising here. EchelonTee posting like he just solo'd a game as scum (re: Normal Mini Mafia), SlOosh still a bit prone to confirmation bias. They're both looking ok to me so far. Zelblade: Read your own post, then follow your own advice. This game takes what, 10 minutes to read so far? Accuse someone. Anyone. We're not looking for 50 line cases here. This goes for Trackd00r too, although this is his first game so I'm going to be nicer to him. Steveling: Ok, it's partly my fault that you've made four posts with zero suspicions, but this cannot go on trackd00r So you've been keeping an eye on the players from Newbie Mini III. What do you think of them so far? Alright i think its time to clarify the real purpose of the poll, i just expected everyone to vote town, than than i would vote mafia and ask which troll said they were mafia but are actually town (because it seemed obvius that everyone would vote town) i was hoping someone would say they were the troll, which would mean they were a townie if they had actually trolled, but because i was the one who voted mafia i would end just making a note of the people claiming to be the troll, the plan didnt pan out because everyone voted mafia. Basicaly i went fishing and the fish told me to f off. | ||
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gumshoe
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jaj22
United Kingdom1376 Posts
If you really are town, you're lucky you didn't get bandwagoned within the first few hours of the game. While you're here, what do you think of MidnightGladius? | ||
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jaj22
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
On February 18 2012 01:03 jaj22 wrote: Oh yeah, I know you didn't vote town on the poll because I was the only town vote at 9-1. Well thats irony, thats how exactly how i was gonna try and catch someone | ||
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gumshoe
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blae000
Norway1640 Posts
On February 18 2012 01:08 gumshoe wrote: Well thats irony, thats how exactly how i was gonna try and catch someone Yeah! I dont really know what to read from that. So basically he _was_ the 'odd one out', until others started to vote town as well. Then again, it might have been all observers voting to troll us. Either way, to tell who is lying or not from a click in the poll isnt the best way to go. So the faster we forget the poll, the better. We need to get the rest talking, so we can see who acts suspicious and find the scum that way. I'll go back and re-read some stuff for now. I was in a bit of a hurry earlier. | ||
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gumshoe
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gumshoe
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On February 18 2012 01:22 blae000 wrote: Yeah! I dont really know what to read from that. So basically he _was_ the 'odd one out', until others started to vote town as well. Then again, it might have been all observers voting to troll us. Either way, to tell who is lying or not from a click in the poll isnt the best way to go. So the faster we forget the poll, the better. We need to get the rest talking, so we can see who acts suspicious and find the scum that way. I'll go back and re-read some stuff for now. I was in a bit of a hurry earlier. I agree with blae, the poll was a risk and it didnt pan out but it did yield soem interesting conversation. In a little while im going to post about whereeveryone stands on the four major conflicts so far, first though - gotta go walk a dog(my equivalent of bowling) | ||
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trackd00r
Chile284 Posts
@jaj22: Regarding in the comparison of those four players in NMM3, Their metagame has been similar so far, with a very few exceptions: -Sloosh has been very aggressive against EcheleonTea after he made an indirect scum claim (not sure if he was kidding still). The discussion lasted quite a bit with lots of attacks against each other. I'm not missing that attitude from sloosh, but I still expect more from him as town, by pulling off cases and encouraging everyone to participate, opposed to pick off a single target and turning it into a semi-heated talk. Helping us by posting the filters (thanks btw) and giving some general advice is nice to hear, but that fight left me with a little drop of doubt. Anyways, I somewhat understand that he was trying to defend from the first claim and in that case, it's the right thing to do. Looking good. -DoyouHas seems to be pointing the town to the right direction: taking the confidence to be the first to post (BUT last newbie mafia the first poster turned to be scum, with the difference that it was just fluff), gathering information and making his stand clear to everyone. Seems very pro town from me, the same way he did it in NMM3. -MidnightGladius has somewhat posted in the begging of the game. However, he does still have that flaw present in the past game, which is to make useless calculations and proportions about the mafia/town ratio. I feel that doesn't really contributes much to the dialogue. His next post have been better though, analyzing and commenting about the Echelon-sloosh clash and the not that succesful plan of gumshoe. I hope he keeps like that. Important to mention that those 3 players had blue roles in NMM3, so looking through their posts in the next days can make a clearer picture of them and their attitude to everything in general. -Zelbalde has only posted once, giving advice to us and apologizing. This was his biggest flaw last game. We know that you are a busy person zelblade, but posting just once is fine, instead of refilling your posts with more 'sorry' and making you either difficult to read or a scum candidate. Well, that's all regarding the past players, but of course we need to take look to the rest... Gumshoe did not had the best start ever in a mafia game. That first post was just flashy and not very elaborated. As Echelon said, it could be interpreted as an attempt to derail the discussion. This thing drew my attention quite a bit: + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + On February 17 2012 11:36 EchelonTee wrote: Show nested quote + I would like it if you divided your walls of text into paragraphs; it took me a few to fathom your post, when I realized you're not saying anything. K very simple I wanted to see if any voting patterns formed within the poll It was like a lynch simulator But less than 12 people have voted in the pole therefore any conjecture regarding any mafia patterns is at the moment useless. Because it's possible that none of the mafia voted given that town thinks the poll is stupid and just posted on it randomly or trolingly. Discredit it until theres twelve votes or just discredit it period if you so please. That is all. That ridiculously excessive action regarding to divide your text into paragraphs makes you look fell very uncomfortable and desperate to get out of that situation. I'll take your plan as a newbie mistake, but that last post can draw suspicion... In my opinion, we should take a look at Steveling posts: + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + On February 17 2012 10:50 gumshoe wrote: Hi everybody! Im the friendly neighbourhood gum on your shoe! Today I come to you with a plan that'll hopefully shed some light on the certainly vile nature of the scum infesting our sacred house...OF GAMBLING! The plan is a simple anonymous poll asking wether your a townie or a scumie. Now in the case of the townie there is no risk whatsoever in voting townie, on acounta a) you are a townie and b) no one can say otherwise cause your voting anonymously. In fact I very much so ask that you don't say which one your voting for or wether or not your even voting at all. All I ask is that if you're a townie vote townie, or don't vote, please don't troll and say your mafia I REPEAT NO TOWNIES VOTE MAFIA, IT SHALL BE THE END OF US ALL!!!!!! This only works if all the townies voting vote townie so please do so if your a townie. If your mafia feel free to vote as well, in fact the whole purpose of this exercise is to see if you as a group abstain from voting, vote as you please, or all vote townie. This is an experiment to study the mafia and I promise to only do this once, so whata ya say newcomers! Watcha gonna be? I'd just likely to repeat one last time there is ABSOLUTELY no way I or anyone else can ascertain your alignment through this vote, so please give it a shot, it might very well teach us something useful. Poll: Anonymous vote: are YOU mafia? Mafioso (16) 80% Townie (4) 20% 20 total votes Your vote: Anonymous vote: are YOU mafia? (Vote): Townie (Vote): Mafioso I loled soo hard reading this. As for me, I played one more game of mafia, but it was the biggest fail human kind has ever witnessed. There were 80 players in it, and it ended with the scum offering a draw, cause the city was that bad, T_T. I was a towny needless to say. Here's the link, http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285690 I think I'm with jaj on the lurker lynching. Since unless some serious slips happen it's our best bet for scumhunt. + Show Spoiler + On February 17 2012 11:25 jaj22 wrote: + Show Spoiler + @Gumshoe: Did you get some RL buddies to spam your own vote, just in case it was accidentally useful? @Steveling: I see you lynched Palmar on your first day. Not the greatest start to a mafia career. Fortunately we don't have any awesome scumhunting veterans in this game. Or mayors. Yeah, that was ...unfortunate, Q_Q. But, I did have the best scumreads based on clues in that game. Well that was all I could do so I spent a lot of time into these. Also in my defense all the towny veterans where cockfighting each other so it was impossible for a newbie to tell who was what. + Show Spoiler + On February 17 2012 11:55 gumshoe wrote: Show nested quote + + Show Spoiler + I apologize as well. This was just a random shot to start off the night, I mean theres really nothing to discuss until something happens and it beats just randomly accusing people, but ill try not to do something like this again... for this game at least! Just an idea, if you want this to work in future games, I think you need to post a clarifying post before the poll-post, something like a preemptive strike, so you get full cooperation from townies and state the purpose. For example, I voted scum on the poll before I even read it just to troll, T_T. There is barely anything helpful on those posts. Not really contributing . I expect you to post more or my suspicion to you will rise. That's it for the moment. I'll be checking again the thread in a couple of hours. My absence in the past is just sleeping. As may notice, my time is roughly the same as EST, so I'll be up for deadlines and lynches. And sorry for the bad formatting @ spoilers >.< I'll PM a mod later so I get some help lol | ||
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Alderan
United States463 Posts
Ok so here are just my thoughts as I read through the thread (going to be pretty peacemeal as I catch up): As for my experience, most recently I played in SNMMIV as scum. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=232826 And before that I played a Vanilla towny in http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=227500. I've also read a couple games all the way through I see that next we entered the obligatory Lurker Lynch policy discussion so I will throw in my $.02. We need to approach this in a way where lurkers know they will get lynched if they do not post. Our philosophy should be that someone who is blatantly lurking WILL get lynched unless of these 2 situations happens. 1. Adequate involvement from everyone. I have seen town get so focused on lynching a lurker that when that person becomes active the bandwagon has already started rolling so fast downhill that there's no stopping it. That person ends up being town more often than not. 2. There is an obvious scum slip or we can identify someone almost assuredly as scum. Let's make sure we don't hit a blue in our insistence on lynching someone day 1, if the obvious choice is not there, it's not there. That will be decided much closer to the end of the voting period though. Stay diligent. This poll is comical. I still fail to see the reasoning behind it. While discussion is good, let's not go round and round about that, almost no substantive value to be had. More worrisome than the poll is how quick to the gun ET was. Without formally FoSing, in my opinion you have already semi-accused DoYouHaas, Sloosh, and gumshoe. Do you stand any of these at all? If so which is the most scummy? I don't like it, and by it I mean blasting away with the accuse cannon nonstop. We need to hear from Mannerkiss again definitely. Gumshoe you're absolutely correct about Midnight Gladius's ratio post. What is the easiest way to "contribute" without actually contributing anything thats not common knowledge? Speculate about the setup/discuss the ratios and KP, and inactive lists. Those things are not inherently scummy, but they must be followed up with additional contributions. | ||
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jaj22
United Kingdom1376 Posts
On February 18 2012 01:22 blae000 wrote: Either way, to tell who is lying or not from a click in the poll isnt the best way to go. I'm not sure you're reading this properly. After being caught out, Gumshoe has admitted to substantial dishonesty through his early posts, including one that he doublespaced for EchelonTee. If what you're looking for is liars, we have a confirmed one already. The only reason I haven't voted him is that players who make this sort of ridiculous and dishonest plan in newbie games have a nasty habit of flipping town. | ||
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
On February 18 2012 01:59 trackd00r wrote: Ok, so I've been reading the thread for a while and taken a look to the filters. @jaj22: Regarding in the comparison of those four players in NMM3, Their metagame has been similar so far, with a very few exceptions: -Sloosh has been very aggressive against EcheleonTea after he made an indirect scum claim (not sure if he was kidding still). The discussion lasted quite a bit with lots of attacks against each other. I'm not missing that attitude from sloosh, but I still expect more from him as town, by pulling off cases and encouraging everyone to participate, opposed to pick off a single target and turning it into a semi-heated talk. Helping us by posting the filters (thanks btw) and giving some general advice is nice to hear, but that fight left me with a little drop of doubt. Anyways, I somewhat understand that he was trying to defend from the first claim and in that case, it's the right thing to do. Looking good. -DoyouHas seems to be pointing the town to the right direction: taking the confidence to be the first to post (BUT last newbie mafia the first poster turned to be scum, with the difference that it was just fluff), gathering information and making his stand clear to everyone. Seems very pro town from me, the same way he did it in NMM3. -MidnightGladius has somewhat posted in the begging of the game. However, he does still have that flaw present in the past game, which is to make useless calculations and proportions about the mafia/town ratio. I feel that doesn't really contributes much to the dialogue. His next post have been better though, analyzing and commenting about the Echelon-sloosh clash and the not that succesful plan of gumshoe. I hope he keeps like that. Important to mention that those 3 players had blue roles in NMM3, so looking through their posts in the next days can make a clearer picture of them and their attitude to everything in general. -Zelbalde has only posted once, giving advice to us and apologizing. This was his biggest flaw last game. We know that you are a busy person zelblade, but posting just once is fine, instead of refilling your posts with more 'sorry' and making you either difficult to read or a scum candidate. Well, that's all regarding the past players, but of course we need to take look to the rest... Gumshoe did not had the best start ever in a mafia game. That first post was just flashy and not very elaborated. As Echelon said, it could be interpreted as an attempt to derail the discussion. This thing drew my attention quite a bit: + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + On February 17 2012 11:36 EchelonTee wrote: Show nested quote + I would like it if you divided your walls of text into paragraphs; it took me a few to fathom your post, when I realized you're not saying anything. K very simple I wanted to see if any voting patterns formed within the poll It was like a lynch simulator But less than 12 people have voted in the pole therefore any conjecture regarding any mafia patterns is at the moment useless. Because it's possible that none of the mafia voted given that town thinks the poll is stupid and just posted on it randomly or trolingly. Discredit it until theres twelve votes or just discredit it period if you so please. That is all. That ridiculously excessive action regarding to divide your text into paragraphs makes you look fell very uncomfortable and desperate to get out of that situation. I'll take your plan as a newbie mistake, but that last post can draw suspicion... In my opinion, we should take a look at Steveling posts: + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + On February 17 2012 10:50 gumshoe wrote: Hi everybody! Im the friendly neighbourhood gum on your shoe! Today I come to you with a plan that'll hopefully shed some light on the certainly vile nature of the scum infesting our sacred house...OF GAMBLING! The plan is a simple anonymous poll asking wether your a townie or a scumie. Now in the case of the townie there is no risk whatsoever in voting townie, on acounta a) you are a townie and b) no one can say otherwise cause your voting anonymously. In fact I very much so ask that you don't say which one your voting for or wether or not your even voting at all. All I ask is that if you're a townie vote townie, or don't vote, please don't troll and say your mafia I REPEAT NO TOWNIES VOTE MAFIA, IT SHALL BE THE END OF US ALL!!!!!! This only works if all the townies voting vote townie so please do so if your a townie. If your mafia feel free to vote as well, in fact the whole purpose of this exercise is to see if you as a group abstain from voting, vote as you please, or all vote townie. This is an experiment to study the mafia and I promise to only do this once, so whata ya say newcomers! Watcha gonna be? I'd just likely to repeat one last time there is ABSOLUTELY no way I or anyone else can ascertain your alignment through this vote, so please give it a shot, it might very well teach us something useful. Poll: Anonymous vote: are YOU mafia? Mafioso (16) 80% Townie (4) 20% 20 total votes Your vote: Anonymous vote: are YOU mafia? (Vote): Townie (Vote): Mafioso I loled soo hard reading this. As for me, I played one more game of mafia, but it was the biggest fail human kind has ever witnessed. There were 80 players in it, and it ended with the scum offering a draw, cause the city was that bad, T_T. I was a towny needless to say. Here's the link, http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285690 I think I'm with jaj on the lurker lynching. Since unless some serious slips happen it's our best bet for scumhunt. + Show Spoiler + On February 17 2012 11:25 jaj22 wrote: + Show Spoiler + @Gumshoe: Did you get some RL buddies to spam your own vote, just in case it was accidentally useful? @Steveling: I see you lynched Palmar on your first day. Not the greatest start to a mafia career. Fortunately we don't have any awesome scumhunting veterans in this game. Or mayors. Yeah, that was ...unfortunate, Q_Q. But, I did have the best scumreads based on clues in that game. Well that was all I could do so I spent a lot of time into these. Also in my defense all the towny veterans where cockfighting each other so it was impossible for a newbie to tell who was what. + Show Spoiler + On February 17 2012 11:55 gumshoe wrote: Show nested quote + + Show Spoiler + I apologize as well. This was just a random shot to start off the night, I mean theres really nothing to discuss until something happens and it beats just randomly accusing people, but ill try not to do something like this again... for this game at least! Just an idea, if you want this to work in future games, I think you need to post a clarifying post before the poll-post, something like a preemptive strike, so you get full cooperation from townies and state the purpose. For example, I voted scum on the poll before I even read it just to troll, T_T. There is barely anything helpful on those posts. Not really contributing . I expect you to post more or my suspicion to you will rise. That's it for the moment. I'll be checking again the thread in a couple of hours. My absence in the past is just sleeping. As may notice, my time is roughly the same as EST, so I'll be up for deadlines and lynches. And sorry for the bad formatting @ spoilers >.< I'll PM a mod later so I get some help lol The poll wasn't supposed to do what it seemed like. It was to bait fluffy responses and harsh accusations, which it did,also there was more to the poll if it actually work but that was as I said a shot in the dark. I apologize if I derailed non existent conversation,the poll didn't work but it yielded as i said some interesting responses. You have every right to be suspicious of me, I took a risk and it didn't pay off , but anymore discussion directed towards a failed plan is just as derailing the plan itself. Another "gumshoe is definitely not a noob but mafia because of x comment" is that big of a contribution and can easily be seen as a way of continuing a doomed topic of conversation. | ||
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