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On February 21 2012 09:01 Mattchew wrote: steveling you can have in on it too Matt there is no pming in this game, everyone scum hunts together, even the mafia who at least have to look like they scumhunt. If you have suggestions for who we should look into or a case to show please oblige us. | ||
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On February 21 2012 10:39 slOosh wrote: Not reading anything till you explain this. DYH will be lynched today. Unless anyone has substantial evidence as to why he is town, HE WILL BE LYNCHED TODAY. Sloosh, you know there can be framers in this game right? | ||
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On February 21 2012 11:03 Mattchew wrote: also theres the chance of a miller gum Whats a miller? | ||
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On February 21 2012 11:08 Janaan wrote: EBWOP: As promised, since I wasn't very convinced by the case ##Vote: DoYouHas Also Janaan whats your take on Hawk? | ||
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On February 21 2012 11:27 Mattchew wrote: Miller- You are just an ordinary citizen of the town of Liquidia, well, almost ordinary, unbeknownst to you, you sleep walk, and often end up visiting the graveyard and other suspicious locations, for that reason, you return Mafia to detectives who choose to check you. Millers are not informed that they are millers, rather they are given regular vanilla townie PMs. Well thats shitty. | ||
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On February 21 2012 11:29 Janaan wrote: I have a scummy read on him right now. Probably one of the scummier things about him right now, at least for me, is how defensive he's being about his vote on DimmuKlok. This is his only read on DimmuKlok before the vote. And this is his read after the vote. Hndsight bias? Maybe. If nothing else, he was hiding his real read as the vote got closer. That whole situation with matt was really a very easy opportunity for you to hop on Hawk whose been tunnelling you for ages now. Yet you didn't do that and instead suggested that we don't jump to conclusions which has drastically improved my opinion of you. My vote stays on DYH till sloosh gets back to me in an indiscriminate way. Yet I think Hawk is looking like a good option in the future, I suggest everyone consider him at least a little. | ||
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Remember his early reads? Look at the people he called suspicius. + Show Spoiler + Ech:Throws FOSs and Votes out very impulsively. Does not seem to have a plan, and could just be trying to cause unrest. Why say you had more to say about MidnightGladius being suspicious and then not say anything more? It's almost as if he voted for Midnight and then forgot why he was going to say he voted for him. Which a town would not do. Suspicious. + Show Spoiler + Jaj :Says flashy and aggressive play are not scummy when talking about Ech. But that's also how he is playing. Convenient eh? Would like more of an explanation about why Midnight in particular deserves a pressure vote, when there are so many others that could have used that too. + Show Spoiler + Slo0sh: Still think he reacted too strongly to Ech and DoYouHas accusing him. Why feel guilty as town? Focuses discussion back on Gumshoe, possibly to distract us from his scum buddies. Suspicious. + Show Spoiler + DYH: Mostly bogged down with Gumshoe. Trying to tag sl0osh as a good player who wouldn't make such mistakes. It makes no sense to try to meta analyze a player with only one game of background. DoYouHas is jumping on perceived mistakes. Suspicious He is focusing suspicion on the four players who are most active and most constructive at this point in the game. His reasonings? Sloosh:Too defensive,Ech: to offensive,DYH: jumps on mistakes (can easily just be seen pressure at this stage in the game) Jaj:Shouldve pressured someone else basically he calls all these players suspicious for active behaviour. What really gets me is that he is accusing jaj of flashy play when jaj really isn't that bad at this point in time and his accusation of Mg was just because he felt the game was stagnating and Mg was playing too safe, also Jaj was detective so your point about him supporting flashy players because he's flashy is mute on two accounts, 1) of the four people you called suspicius Jaj is the least flashy, and 2) it was just a false accusation. What is interesting though is your assault against jaj convinientley defending flashy players convinientley backs up your implicit argument against flashy players. Hawk is trying to cause conflict here and plant the seed of suspiciun against active players which is horrible, because if your suspiciuns are founded on whose playing flashy/active, than that means in your eyes players who continue to contribute condemn themselves more and more. If this is your stance as a town player you need to drop it right now because it's poison, but I don't think you have to worry about that because I am almost sure you are mafia. I still stand by my suspicions of players who supported me early on purely because a) there is no risk involved in backing me up if they know I'm town and b) the move provides easy credibility if I am lynched. your whole post begins with me. + Show Spoiler + Gumshoe Has had to spend most of the game defending himself. Looking at what else he's done besides that, he suspects Gladius for spending too much time on commenting on the set up. 1) I didn't suspect gladius for the set up, I suspected gladius because he made really safe bets and was active in the thread but didn't see the need to take any risks like several other players did. You also didn't even post the second part of my anylysis which was just a few posts down + Show Spoiler + He has commented on ech and sloosh but only to suggest that they (more specifcaly ech) calm down, his responses are tame. He has seen no reason to take any big risks. Wether or not thats becuase hes trying to be a reasonable townie (as is most likely) or becuase hes trying to hide in plain site. I leave that up to you decide. I for one do not yet reason to doubt him. This is very relevant information, in fact I consider it far more useful analysis than the comments on setup. You don't even mention how I pointed out that behaviour, you subtract everything except my comment on setup. I feel like you are actually playing down my suspicions and reducing them to just the comment on setup, which the following person would later say isn't really condemming: + Show Spoiler + Zell blade: I am null on MidnightGladius for now. His posts have been related to the setup as mentioned, but he did seem to focus alot on the setup in Newbie Mini Mafia III too. Could go either way for now. + Show Spoiler + Now onto MidnightGladius. I do not believe that he is mafia. He seems to be playing really similiar to NMMIII, where he (on day 1 at least) constantly posts fluff and speculates on the setup. However, ET raises some good points against MG, and I would like to see his responses especially to the "scumslip" raised by ET. I am not willing to lynch him for now. + Show Spoiler + I have also repetadely stated that MG is probably town - he seems to be playing similar to last game, with a tendancy to post fluff and speculation regarding the setup. I also didnt really find his actions condemning. However, having reread his filter and taken another look at ET's case, he does seem to have a tendancy to push only the easiest targerts In all three of these he admits there is reason to suspect Mg, but those reasons never seem to make him suspect Mg, in fact next time his comments on Mg the scum slip vanishes and is replaced with + Show Spoiler + I have also repetadely stated that MG is probably town - he seems to be playing similar to last game, with a tendancy to post fluff and speculation regarding the setup. I also didnt really find his actions condemning. However, having reread his filter and taken another look at ET's case, he does seem to have a tendancy to push only the easiest targerts Notice how he keeps re-mentioning the setup? Thats because the setup argument isnt that strong alone, yet Zell continuously seems to suggest our strongest argument against Mg is the setup which really is'nt the case, our argument against mg is that he plays too soft and only attacks as he said easy targets and those who attack him. This looks like teamwork. Hawk plays down my analysis of Mg and reduces it to me accusing Mg of commenting on the setup and Zell repeatedly mentions how this setup argument is'nt a valid basis for accusing Mg. Also what the hell is this? + Show Spoiler + he (on day 1 at least) constantly posts fluff and speculates on the setup how is this behaviour helpful to town? Also Mg has played like 1 or two games and you want to exonorate him because in his first or second game his play style was unhelpful? Cmon man, you cant be that blind. Dont worry though Zell when lynch him Mg we promise not even to bring up the setup kk? ok that said I am making a case for Hawk not Mg or Zell, one scum at a time right? Now moving onto the rest of that post regarding me! + Show Spoiler + FOS's MannerKiss. Comments on how DimmuKlok made an accusation against "the most obvious runt" (Manner) and and the "second most obvious seeming runt" (himself). Later comments on how Ech and him are now the most obvious votes and pushes for Ech. These are the comments of somebody scrambling to stay alive, not scum. Notice how he tries to discredit me further? He says I'm scrambling to stay alive, he makes me sound like someone desperate, someone willing to say anything to live, someone you shouldn't even remotely trust a word out of because they're not in their right mind, you know who sounds like that? Scum under pressure, yet whats his next line? not scum. He says it with such authority, much better players than hawk in this game are far less convinced that I'm town, but listen to that confidence. Not scum he says bah. Hawk accomplishes three things with this post. 1)He makes me out to be out to be witless, which suggests that he's encouraging people people not to listen to what I've said so far, in other words don't listen to my accusation of Mg. 2)He protects himself in case I'm lynched and flip green. 3)Downplays the arguments against Mg that I made by just saying its suspicious how mg comments on setup, which sets up players like Zell to continuously mention how baseless the setup accusation is in his future defences of Mg. His assurance that I'm town lays the boundaries for his next few accusations. + Show Spoiler + Steveling Pushes a no lynch and then says he just got confused on the day length. Pushes the gumshoe, who is already getting a lot of heat. Suspicious because no lynch is anti town, even if we had no real leads and because he focuses us back on gumshoe Pounces on steveling for a newbie mistake, then accuses him of suspecting me. He does a similar thing with DYH if you read back on why he's suspicious of him. + Show Spoiler + Dim:Seems to be overly emphasizing that he is new to the game and busy. So am I, but I don't feel the need to state that every other post. Neutral. makes himself out to be better than another player because hes less apologetic, oh hawk, you are aware that players are a bit nervous their first time right? Why you see the need to separate yourself from typically nervous new players is very interesting. Mitch has also pointed out the several positive/null reads on zell mg and track so look back at that if you want. Heres a nice jem that comes up. in regard to Ech + Show Spoiler + He then jumps along with jaj22's post and votes for Midnight. He would not be on my radar if it wasn't for that. I can't see a strong reason for the MidnightGladius vote especially with both the people voting for him not backing up their vote once it's questioned. Contradiction. earlier you say: + Show Spoiler + Ech:Throws FOSs and Votes out very impulsively. Does not seem to have a plan, and could just be trying to cause unrest. Why say you had more to say about MidnightGladius being suspicious and then not say anything more? It's almost as if he voted for Midnight and then forgot why he was going to say he voted for him. Which a town would not do. Suspicious. now here comes the biggest reason we should suspect Hawk which is also the most obvius. + Show Spoiler + bahh ##vote DimmuKlok Provides the killing blow against dimm, this is suspicius within itself, but read what he says next. + Show Spoiler + *Panting*... ok, god. Going to go eat. Da fuck? Why you would leave just before you find out if the guy you just killed, is scum or not? You are more invested than ANYONE in this result because YOU ARE THE REASON DIMM DIED! Yet you dont wait 6 seconds to find out the result? Why else would you not wait unless you already knew the outcome? CAN I GET A PRAISE SCUMSLIP!!!!!!! When he comes back ages later? + Show Spoiler + Alright, having reread some stuff after the flip, Alderan was the first to put up a case for DDimmuKlok and stuck on him. On February 19 2012 07:34 Alderan wrote: Show nested quote + Can someone please explain this sentiment? Am I missing something? To my case he responded: "I'm new, I'm new, I don't understand your case, I'm new." His play after my case: "I'm still on my gumshoe wagon, I don't know what to think about Midnight, I don't know what I think about Hawkin and Manner, and I'm too tired to give an opinion on Steveling" If someone can please point me to the direction of pro town play I would greatly appreciate it. And he is another player posting his inability to read Midnight and some weak calls. Janaan was willing to switch to Ech from Dimmu to try to guarantee a lynch even though he said he didn't think Ech was scum. On February 19 2012 06:27 Janaan wrote: At this point, it's looking like the lynch will be either Echelon or a no-lynch. I am still undecided as to which I prefer. On the one hand, I'm not really getting a scum read from Echelon, just a aggressive townie. On the other, we need information. I am usually in favor of lynching, since it provides information that is unavailable any other way. If there's a no lynch, the voting record is almost entirely useless for the day. For now, I'll vote. I just hope that it's not a huge mistake. ##Unvote: DimmuKlok ##Vote: EchelonTee But then he switches back to Dimmu and gets the bandwagon going on Dimmu started again. The reason he voted for Ech was because he didn't want a nolynch day one. Then he changes his mind and votes for a target he thinks will cause a nolynch. On February 19 2012 07:08 Janaan wrote: Show nested quote + Yeah, I think after thinking about it for a bit longer, I really don't get scummy feelings from you at all, and I haven't since the game began. As SlOosh reminded me, lynching people you don't think mafia is not a good idea. Now I just need to decide who to actually vote for... ##Unvote: EchelonTee On February 19 2012 08:18 Janaan wrote: It seems that I'm the only one not voting atm. It really looks like unless something very drastic happens, we're gonna end up with a no-lynch. Of the cases presented, probably the one that made me think most was SlOosh's case against DoYouHas, but I'm still not ready to vote for him. As for the case against MidnightGladius, I understand where Echelon is coming from, but I have slightly different opinions on Midnight. I think I have to stick with my original read at this time, as much as I don't really want a no-lynch Day 1. ##Vote: DimmuKlok He's willing to vote for somebody he doesn't think is town to guarantee a lynch, but then vote for somebody he thinks is scum to force a nolynch because it was his original read. Not only that, the reason he gave for changing his vote "I don't get a scummy feeling from you at all" is bogus. Janaan didn't have scummy feelings from Ech when voted for him. He already balanced the we need info vs. I don't want to lynch people I think are town in his head. FOS Janaan He comes back and doesn't even comment on the fact that he caused a misslnch? First time townie my ass, if he was town he would be apologizing to oblivion for causing a mislynch, instead though he attacks Janaan! A player who hasn't even seemed remotley scummy up to this point. No one has accused Janaan exept me and that was my nightmare post, Hawk is using this useless tunnel on janaan to avoid commenting on the major cases at play. His tunnel on Janaan is founded in part on Janaan being suspicious of ME, again how is hawk so confident I'm town? Hes not even considering me as mafia, why? Because he know im not. Heres my favourite high light of his post + Show Spoiler + And he is another player posting his inability to read Midnight and some weak calls. Umm you know who else does that...? + Show Spoiler + Like I said earlier, I still can't get a good read on Midnight, and looking through filters neither can a few other people. Even your accusation starts with "oh, screw it. I'm making a case." That makes me think you don't even believe the accusation yourself. You even say the only reason you did it was because you were bored. If you have something more since then to back it up, please post. Otherwise there is no way in hell I'm voting for Midnight based on just that. You are putting suspicion on Janaan for not having a read on Mg which is something I would say you are notorious for. You are clearing yourself of suspiciun for a crime by showing how guilty someone else is for that exact same crime. Fun fact: it is eons before you answer for the mislynch. Oh here another defence of mg post in the meantime. + Show Spoiler + Thoughts on EchelonTee I still don't buy the Midnight argument. There is sorta a WIFOM argument to his post's existence. Half the town had told him if he didn't post something against Midnight, we were lynching him. So, he posted something against Midnight. He'd post that regardless of whether he was town or scum. On February 19 2012 07:24 EchelonTee wrote: Show nested quote + 3..........this has to be a scum slip. FakePromise was a GREEN, TOWNIE last game. If you see another fakepromise, why are you voting him??? How is he being malicious, hes just making bad statistical analysis!! at this point you are pushing a terrible lynch. So he thinks Midnight voting Gumshoe is a terrible lynch push and comparing Gumshoe to FakePromise is a scum slip. On February 19 2012 09:27 EchelonTee wrote: Show nested quote + 1. i'm not good. why suggest this so openly. this is my 4th game playing. 2. as mattchew said, this could be a scumslip; he knows I would flip green and is planting this. After my aggressive opening towards gumshoe I dont know why he would support me as such. Thoughts? Oh so pushing Gumshoe back into the center of attention. Ech thinks Gumshoe could be scum now. So that means Midnight's push to lynch him wasn't terrible. So your justification for going after Midnight has gone away right? Nope. On February 19 2012 09:38 EchelonTee wrote: Show nested quote + I still think he's scum. Going after Mattchew, Mannerkiss's replacement is consistent, so I can't fault him for that, but I can't agree with him wanting to vote him for 1. voting himself, aka OMGUS, and 2. being AWOL from thread with excuse. he could be using his phone you know. Or maybe he hasn't quite left yet. Point is, mattchew isn't being constructive but he not an autovote. especially because he's only posted a bit. However, I think examining the other happenings in the thread is a good idea. I could endlessly tunnel Midnight, but I need to get a good look at the bigger picture. Besides, you really think its strange that I'm addressing the lynch that just happened, over midnight? I was literally the last voter on him, I should be scrutinized for doing so. He defends Mg by casting doubt on mg's accuser. Hello indirect support! Hello scum 101! + Show Spoiler + That's the definition of WIFOM logic. Best not to over think it. As for your suspicions against me because I was against the Midnight vote. I couldn't get a good read on Midnight, and neither can a lot of people. The only people who did have a read on him were reading him as scum. That fact alone is odd and suspicious. I'm not sure Midnight is town, I'm just more comfortable following my own reads then blindly following somebody else's. I hate it when players try to shut down conversation, this is exactly what Hawk is doing here. He also makes another attempt to discredit me without accusing me. Yet thats not the gem of this post, look at the bolded part. Look, a townie's biggest job, the job that is the hardest and burdens them all throughout the game, is the job of convincing others that they are worth listening to. Hawk does not do this. He makes no attempt to contribute in a positive way, he is very hostile and the only person he doesn't seem to really suspect... is me. Hawk is not trying to convince us to trust him. He is trying to make himself distant. By saying I follow my own reads he is essentially saying I trust myself and no one else. Which is a horrible thing to say for a town whose job it is to convince OTHER towns.There is no humanity in his posts, he is beyond cold. This bolded part suggests that when day three roles around he will bust open a huge case and expose all the mafia. Which isnt going to happen because in scenario a) he is town and no one listens to him because he comes off as hostile and suspicious and in scenario b) he is mafia and he is trying to make his opinions as useless as possible(just like he's trying to make mine.) without seeming blatantly suspicious. Please someone tell I am wrong on all these accounts. Tell me how Hawk wasn't the reason a townie died. Tell me why he is actively trying to seem so hostile to the point that we will never listen to him. Tell me how his tunnel on Janaan is useful. Tell me how he's so sure that I am town. But most of all please tell me a story about why this man is not mafia. So that I can tell you a story about why you are. | ||
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On February 22 2012 05:36 Mattchew wrote: your case is fine.. but its because I gave you 4 scum... you realize lynching DYH is a bad thing if he flips green right? Been suspicius of zell and hawk long before you boy still not sold on track and mg | ||
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On February 22 2012 05:47 Steveling wrote: I'm surprised to see gum making coherent posts. And formated correctly! lol These last posts about hawkings make me see him as scum as well. I'll add trackdoor on top of that. Do you think we got good chanses for more scum in this case? Meaning 3/4 or even 4/4? And what do you think of trackdoor? It's like everyone is avoiding him. Please share. One scum at a time steve. Yes track is uber suspicius look at how quickly he showed up in the thread wheb MITCH attacked him, right now though we need to focus on the scum who are threats, and as useless as he is i dont see trak as threat, just terrified scum, but hawk... Among other things hes the reason we mislynched. He needs to be dealt with as soon as possible. Hes the tip of the ice berg, if he flips red, then i will be almost 100 percent sure of two other players guilt. | ||
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On February 22 2012 08:20 TKHawkins wrote: Sadly I was misinformed. The bandwagon seems pretty set on me (and continues to be shocked that I'm not here to defend myself better while I'm at work and unable to post). I'll be writing up all my reads and cases and posting them at/near the end of Night 2 to avoid my posts having any WIFOM impact on the night actions. Hawk please look at my post on you one page ago, also if your at work dont worry, no ones voting for you right now, take a deep breath, look at my post and wait till you get home, then defend your self. You just come off despreate asking us to wait. Also i dont wanna hear your reads at the end of tonight i wanna hear them as soon as possible. Your in no position for pleasentries. | ||
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On February 22 2012 09:17 Mattchew wrote: hey gumshoe... remember that time i told you to take your vote off DYH? any regrets listening to your great leader sloosh? Nope, sloosh will be of use now. And my case hinged a bit on dyh's alignment. Everyone who hasnt read my case on hawk please do. | ||
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On February 22 2012 22:04 zelblade wrote: Btw the hawkins on my lynch list applies only if he (Hawkins) decides to calm down and come back. As stated I rather not lynch a replacement coming in immediatedly. Zell i dont want to hear any more lynch options out of you until you read my case on hawk.(Oh and on a side note if youd lynched manners replacement two days ago you wouldnt have such a headache right now) raging out of games is exactly what mafia do, also your points raised against tk are just the tip of the ice berg, please read my case and adress it point by point, right now we dont need "this guy seems sorta suspicius" we need hard cases, so far the only ones that stand are mine against hawk and ech's against mg which can use an update, steve's track case deserves hounareble mention but as i said track is not a threat whereas hawk most certainly is or at least has been and hes far more aggresive. Also to matt, calm down with the chainsaw, we focus on hawk right now, he is the only person I know 99 percent is mafia. I am willing to be lynched or whatever if hes not. Note if you defend hawk in passing without adressing my case convincingley i will assume suspicius activity. Also dyh's case on hawk while less detailed stands if you want a second opinion. I will be home soon so ill be more active today than last night. If someone has another lynch candidate I would like them to post ONE strong case. Anymore out of one person will be distracting at this stage in the game. ZELL I am not listening to another word you say until you adress my case, your in thier a bit by the way so theres your personal incentive. | ||
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On February 23 2012 00:52 Mattchew wrote: i am waiting for someone to adress my case. No one has in depth but several people have said that they do not want to lynch hawk. They havent even mentioned what i said, im still waiting on zells response. We work through our suspects on at a time. I have been as over dramatic you seem to be tunneling a little bit, and you are coming off conceited saying things like "we focus on hawk right now, he is the only person I know 99 percent is mafia." and " if you defend hawk in passing without adressing my case convincingley i will assume suspicius activity. " This is exactly what sloosh did, and that didn't work out too well As possible in regard to hawks case to make it garner as much attention as possible , but I am not sloosh and niether is he anymore I think. If a better case comes along I will stand by it. Till then I stand by my own thurough investigation. | ||
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On February 23 2012 01:59 slOosh wrote: (I was going to post on all four but its taking longer than I thought so I don't think I have time to do it all, I'll post what I managed to do so far) With some reevaluations my own reads and consideration of DYH's reads, Mattchew's reads overlap pretty well with mine. I'll be looking to bring the case from speculation into substance. Zelblade: I don't like how his actions align with mafia agenda. It doesn't mean he is mafia, but I don't like it. His day 1 actions happen to be in best interest of mafia. Go for ET, prevent anything on MG, offer DYH as alternative, refocus people on DYH after night. I say it again - it doesn't mean he is mafia, but it does mean he warrants suspicion. So let us look. Observe here his stance on me and DYH Supports my case but makes sure to let people know how he is suspicious of me. How can you support a case from someone who you think could be scum?? It doesn't matter how good the case is, if a mafia is proposing it you don't support it. Now that DYH flipped town, he knows it can't be a bus. He is convinced that one of us is scum, but doesn't actually follow up on it. "Oh I think you could be scum but your case is pretty good so I'll support your lynch btw I still think you are scum. Oh the lynch was a townie. I'll ignore you now". I don't think anyone (even inexperienced players) would think / act like this. Also, in the same quote: Doesn't really make too much sense here. Only one person will die. His reason for posting is fear of death, and at the same moment tells other people to post just in case they die too. I don't understand why he thought he would die. This again aligns with mafia agenda - get people to post scum lists to make better night kills and make most chaos. (Will post maybe 1 more before I AWOL for IRL stuff until tomorrow evening in ~35 hours). I was gonna post a case on him before midnight but seeing as he seems to be your target ill leave him to you, take a lot at my hawk will ya? Also heres something for your case if you want it. Zell + Show Spoiler + And yes, I agree that the lack of defense for DYH is really wierd. This could obviously mean that we are: 1) Wrong 2) Its a bus! 3) Scum do not have much of a thread presence/are not being influential, and thus are not willing to take the risk to go ahead with a solid defence of DYH, and are thus, as you said, distancing themselves from him. Im currently sold on (3) personally. I dont believe that mafia would be actively bussing him at this point in time just for some town cred. Town cred is fickle and I would be pretty glad if they were doing so as they would be giving us a pretty dangerous scum on a silver platter. This reasoning is awfully flimsy for why its option 3, and perhaps a bit prophetic. Yet of course Zell chooses to lean towards option three and not considering the other two (which both happen to be true) because its the one that earns a mislynch. I think the mafia are playing this game just like us, one mislynch at a time. They cant do that though, they are trying to rush the game, they don't see how no lynches help them more, reason being no lynches allow mafia to preserve conflict between players, which in turn is the cover mafia use to survive. Everyone think about this, lets say yesterday me ech steve maybe janaan or alderaan along with matt pull our votes, would we have been able to rally another lynch? Probably not, it wouldn't have happened and we would still have the problem of dyh and sloosh. Today we have eliminated a major conflict that has shaped this game, the fog is clearing and now the mafia are panicking. Zell I'm still waiting on your response. Sloosh what do you think of my case on Hawk? I would consider switching to Zell just because zell still has some fight in him whereas hawk is just laying down waiting to die. For me the choice boils down to this: On the one hand I am sure hawk is mafia but isn't a huge threat, on the other HAND I am sure that if Zell is mafia he poses a larger threat than hawk but isnt as 100 percent scum. Oh on a side note I am suspicius of anyone who accuses MITCH because at this point that is an easy get me out of trouble accusation, mafia are better off just calling him an asshole or an idiot(valid accusation btw) MITCH is playing too risky and reckless, he's attacked pretty much everyone and hasn't been shy about it . He's so frustrating that I wouldnt be surprised if he turned up dead tonight, though I doubt it, he alone isn't a threat to the mafia, its when someone like sloosh backs him up that he becomes dangerous. Leaning town. | ||
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Gentleman, there are now only 12 of us, 4 of which are mafia, look at the nerd to your left, and look at the dweeb to your right, one of them.............................................................................................................................................. is SCUM. | ||
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