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On February 25 2012 11:07 Forumite wrote:
Team kitaman27: Dirkzor, Blazinghand, VisceraEyes
Navillus - Nay
Palmar - Nay
[UoN]Sentinel - Yay
kitaman27 - Yay
Dirkzor - Nay
chaos13 - Nay
VisceraEyes - Yay
Blazinghand - Yay
prplhz - Nay
4 Yays, 5 Nays
Team kitaman27 is Rejected!
Dirkzor is the next leader
The current deadline to post a team is in just under 24 hours, at 02:00 GMT (+00:00), or 26 february 11:00 KST.
If Dirkzor has not submitted a team by then, he will be skipped and the next one in line will be the Leader.
Super Nay by me. /pat on my back
Was a really fun game. I like the mechanics of teamvoting and the small player pool. I enjoyed the "town" atmosphere in this game. I do agree that it took quite a long time day1 but that wasn't only the game mechanics. People we're painfully slow to put up teams and vote. We almost waited 24h every voting cycle.
/In for next one =)
Btw funny how spies won game 1 flawless and town won game 2 flawless.
GG and thx for hosting!
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On March 07 2012 03:17 Dirkzor wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 11:07 Forumite wrote:
Team kitaman27: Dirkzor, Blazinghand, VisceraEyes
Navillus - Nay
Palmar - Nay
[UoN]Sentinel - Yay
kitaman27 - Yay
Dirkzor - Nay
chaos13 - Nay
VisceraEyes - Yay
Blazinghand - Yay
prplhz - Nay
4 Yays, 5 Nays
Team kitaman27 is Rejected!
Dirkzor is the next leader
The current deadline to post a team is in just under 24 hours, at 02:00 GMT (+00:00), or 26 february 11:00 KST.
If Dirkzor has not submitted a team by then, he will be skipped and the next one in line will be the Leader. Super Nay by me. /pat on my back Was a really fun game. I like the mechanics of teamvoting and the small player pool. I enjoyed the "town" atmosphere in this game. I do agree that it took quite a long time day1 but that wasn't only the game mechanics. People we're painfully slow to put up teams and vote. We almost waited 24h every voting cycle. /In for next one =) Btw funny how spies won game 1 flawless and town won game 2 flawless. GG and thx for hosting!
Thankfully chaos nay'd it. I wonder why - trying to look town in case we figured out BH or something?
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On March 07 2012 03:27 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 03:17 Dirkzor wrote:On February 25 2012 11:07 Forumite wrote:
Team kitaman27: Dirkzor, Blazinghand, VisceraEyes
Navillus - Nay
Palmar - Nay
[UoN]Sentinel - Yay
kitaman27 - Yay
Dirkzor - Nay
chaos13 - Nay
VisceraEyes - Yay
Blazinghand - Yay
prplhz - Nay
4 Yays, 5 Nays
Team kitaman27 is Rejected!
Dirkzor is the next leader
The current deadline to post a team is in just under 24 hours, at 02:00 GMT (+00:00), or 26 february 11:00 KST.
If Dirkzor has not submitted a team by then, he will be skipped and the next one in line will be the Leader. Super Nay by me. /pat on my back Was a really fun game. I like the mechanics of teamvoting and the small player pool. I enjoyed the "town" atmosphere in this game. I do agree that it took quite a long time day1 but that wasn't only the game mechanics. People we're painfully slow to put up teams and vote. We almost waited 24h every voting cycle. /In for next one =) Btw funny how spies won game 1 flawless and town won game 2 flawless. GG and thx for hosting! Thankfully chaos nay'd it. I wonder why - trying to look town in case we figured out BH or something?
I think he wanted to look town and was hoping for a different D1 team. Or maybe at the time he voted it was unclear that with his yayvote it would pass, and he wasn't able to check it between voting and the deadline, so he just went with Nay.
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BH while you're here - mind explaining why you claimed scum by saying you wanted to switch me out after being on 2 successful missions? It was reminiscent of Toad claiming scum by refusing to remove Palmar from a team when he was on 2 sabotaged missions.
If you had given me sufficient reason, I could have been convinced to trade out one of Nav/Palmar, and would have probably switched in kita if he also hadn't claimed scum. It just seemed like you gave up to quick, ya know?
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Yeah, now that the game's over, can scum spill their secrets?
Looks like I was 66% right about scumteam. Sorry prplhz 
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On March 07 2012 03:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
BH while you're here - mind explaining why you claimed scum by saying you wanted to switch me out after being on 2 successful missions? It was reminiscent of Toad claiming scum by refusing to remove Palmar from a team when he was on 2 sabotaged missions.
If you had given me sufficient reason, I could have been convinced to trade out one of Nav/Palmar, and would have probably switched in kita if he also hadn't claimed scum. It just seemed like you gave up to quick, ya know?
I went after you because of your statement after the D1 mission about sabotaging and stuff. Like, basically the only argument I could make was "wires got crossed and scum didn't sabotage". If I argue Palmar is scum, well, that's hard, I'd been arguing he's scum all game and to no avail. If I argue that Nav is scum that works, but you're a more open target because you expressed some confusion about the scum rules. I thought your interactions with prplhz and palmar could be construed as weird so I went for that. Just attacking Palmar more wouldn't have gotten me anywhere.
I think in hindsight I should have gone after you hard immediately after you made the post about the sabotage rule confusion, and said "For D2 we can't include VE, look, etc etc" and seen if I could have gotten myself or maybe Chaos (?) in your place.
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I don't think chaos was an option...if you were able to convince town to replace me, you might have been an option, and Kita was an option until the last day here - Kita was doing a decent job of APPEARING town.
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
Oh that's true I forgot about Kita, but yeah he hadn't gone off the deep end. I think I would have gone with him then. But yeah I suggested an all team town because by far the worst result would be some kind of crappy draw, and it was the team we were gonna end up with eventually anyways. I think going back I would have been more aggressive after the D1 team passed and try to get in Kita between the replacement and the 4th man.
Overall town played like a million times better this game than in Resistance 1 though. Good work promoting discussions and putting pressure on us.
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kita and bh both basically scumclaimed quite early. chaos was harder to figure out especially since 2 townies randomly yayvoted a team with bh on it, despite me proving beyond doubt he was scum. thankfully chaos didnt yayvote that.
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It was really uphill for spies after Palmar proposed that team and was right about all of it. When 4 townies pretty much agree with one another on day1, the only way that scum can disrupt that is to all go against it and then try to argue their way out of a sabotaged mission. A day1 success is really uphill for scum, especially when 4 townies trusted each other quite much.
I don't understand the people who thought that I was scum.
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On March 07 2012 04:15 prplhz wrote:It was really uphill for spies after Palmar proposed that team and was right about all of it. When 4 townies pretty much agree with one another on day1, the only way that scum can disrupt that is to all go against it and then try to argue their way out of a sabotaged mission. A day1 success is really uphill for scum, especially when 4 townies trusted each other quite much. I don't understand the people who thought that I was scum.
Yeah I mean the whole Navillus missing his own team vote thing, meaning he was probably town, that was actually solid reasoning. I had to argue against it though 
I actually don't know how I convinced ANYONE you were scum, but somehow it happened. You basically just agreed with Palmar and made decent analysis all game.
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it wasnt the fact nav missed proposing a team, it was his entire behavior around the issue. dirkzor and prplhz both played very well too
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Does anyone want to make a write-up of this game for the Mafia Library?
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On February 24 2012 00:32 Forumite wrote:
Team [UoN]Sentinel: [UoN]Sentinel, Blazinghand, VisceraEyes
Navillus - Nay
Palmar - Nay
[UoN]Sentinel - Yay
kitaman27 - Nay
Dirkzor - Nay
chaos13 - Yay
VisceraEyes - Yay
Blazinghand - Yay
prplhz - Nay
4 Yays, 5 Nays
Team [UoN]Sentinel is Rejected!
On February 25 2012 11:07 Forumite wrote:
Team kitaman27: Dirkzor, Blazinghand, VisceraEyes
Navillus - Nay
Palmar - Nay
[UoN]Sentinel - Yay
kitaman27 - Yay
Dirkzor - Nay
chaos13 - Nay
VisceraEyes - Yay
Blazinghand - Yay
prplhz - Nay
4 Yays, 5 Nays
Team kitaman27 is Rejected!
lol for some reason I didn't realize sentinel's team was close to passing so I voted no. Upon realizing it could of went through, I substituted essentially the same team to pass it the second time, hoping that no one would notice and it still failed. Opps -_-
Having to shoot down the town teams from the start was rough. There weren't any townies to oppose it however, so me and blazing had to go after it or it was going through. I wish I would have come up with a better reason to oppose it however.
Thanks for hosting forumite and adam!
GG town.
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On March 07 2012 03:27 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 03:17 Dirkzor wrote:On February 25 2012 11:07 Forumite wrote:
Team kitaman27: Dirkzor, Blazinghand, VisceraEyes
Navillus - Nay
Palmar - Nay
[UoN]Sentinel - Yay
kitaman27 - Yay
Dirkzor - Nay
chaos13 - Nay
VisceraEyes - Yay
Blazinghand - Yay
prplhz - Nay
4 Yays, 5 Nays
Team kitaman27 is Rejected!
Dirkzor is the next leader
The current deadline to post a team is in just under 24 hours, at 02:00 GMT (+00:00), or 26 february 11:00 KST.
If Dirkzor has not submitted a team by then, he will be skipped and the next one in line will be the Leader. Super Nay by me. /pat on my back Was a really fun game. I like the mechanics of teamvoting and the small player pool. I enjoyed the "town" atmosphere in this game. I do agree that it took quite a long time day1 but that wasn't only the game mechanics. People we're painfully slow to put up teams and vote. We almost waited 24h every voting cycle. /In for next one =) Btw funny how spies won game 1 flawless and town won game 2 flawless. GG and thx for hosting! Thankfully chaos nay'd it. I wonder why - trying to look town in case we figured out BH or something?
I think it would have been to obvious to vote yes for a team with me on it after he stated very clearly that he'd nay team with me on it. That would have looked strange. Had I voted yes for that team (which had made sense since i was on it) Chaos would look great. He could point fingers at me calling me scum with reason now.
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On March 07 2012 04:56 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 00:32 Forumite wrote:
Team [UoN]Sentinel: [UoN]Sentinel, Blazinghand, VisceraEyes
Navillus - Nay
Palmar - Nay
[UoN]Sentinel - Yay
kitaman27 - Nay
Dirkzor - Nay
chaos13 - Yay
VisceraEyes - Yay
Blazinghand - Yay
prplhz - Nay
4 Yays, 5 Nays
Team [UoN]Sentinel is Rejected! Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 11:07 Forumite wrote:
Team kitaman27: Dirkzor, Blazinghand, VisceraEyes
Navillus - Nay
Palmar - Nay
[UoN]Sentinel - Yay
kitaman27 - Yay
Dirkzor - Nay
chaos13 - Nay
VisceraEyes - Yay
Blazinghand - Yay
prplhz - Nay
4 Yays, 5 Nays
Team kitaman27 is Rejected! lol for some reason I didn't realize sentinel's team was close to passing so I voted no. Upon realizing it could of went through, I substituted essentially the same team to pass it the second time, hoping that no one would notice and it still failed. Opps -_- Having to shoot down the town teams from the start was rough. There weren't any townies to oppose it however, so me and blazing had to go after it or it was going through. I wish I would have come up with a better reason to oppose it however. Thanks for hosting forumite and adam! GG town.
Yeah you should just have voted yay on that first team. Why didn't you? Can't remember. Like I wrote just before, If you had sent another one then me instead of sent (prplhz?) maybe chaos would have yayed.
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On March 07 2012 05:29 Dirkzor wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 04:56 kitaman27 wrote:On February 24 2012 00:32 Forumite wrote:
Team [UoN]Sentinel: [UoN]Sentinel, Blazinghand, VisceraEyes
Navillus - Nay
Palmar - Nay
[UoN]Sentinel - Yay
kitaman27 - Nay
Dirkzor - Nay
chaos13 - Yay
VisceraEyes - Yay
Blazinghand - Yay
prplhz - Nay
4 Yays, 5 Nays
Team [UoN]Sentinel is Rejected! On February 25 2012 11:07 Forumite wrote:
Team kitaman27: Dirkzor, Blazinghand, VisceraEyes
Navillus - Nay
Palmar - Nay
[UoN]Sentinel - Yay
kitaman27 - Yay
Dirkzor - Nay
chaos13 - Nay
VisceraEyes - Yay
Blazinghand - Yay
prplhz - Nay
4 Yays, 5 Nays
Team kitaman27 is Rejected! lol for some reason I didn't realize sentinel's team was close to passing so I voted no. Upon realizing it could of went through, I substituted essentially the same team to pass it the second time, hoping that no one would notice and it still failed. Opps -_- Having to shoot down the town teams from the start was rough. There weren't any townies to oppose it however, so me and blazing had to go after it or it was going through. I wish I would have come up with a better reason to oppose it however. Thanks for hosting forumite and adam! GG town. Yeah you should just have voted yay on that first team. Why didn't you? Can't remember. Like I wrote just before, If you had sent another one then me instead of sent (prplhz?) maybe chaos would have yayed.
I mentioned that sent was my main scum suspect at the beginning of the game, but had I known other townies were find with it, I would have voted it through anyways.
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First I'd like to apologize again for my screwups in missing my team and Palmar's team. Second I really wish that I had been a spy and done everything exactly the same, I'm sure that I would've been able to sabatoge day 2 stay on, sabatoge day 3, and maybe even stay to 5. Obviously though I'm not good enough to think to do what I did as scum Also GG all and gg BH I was actually fairly town on you at one point in the later part of the game but saw no reason to risk pushing for you on a team.
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On March 07 2012 05:39 Navillus wrote:First I'd like to apologize again for my screwups in missing my team and Palmar's team. Second I really wish that I had been a spy and done everything exactly the same, I'm sure that I would've been able to sabatoge day 2 stay on, sabatoge day 3, and maybe even stay to 5. Obviously though I'm not good enough to think to do what I did as scum Also GG all and gg BH I was actually fairly town on you at one point in the later part of the game but saw no reason to risk pushing for you on a team.
Come in, call the rest of town bad, express wish to be on opposing team, compliment opposing team.
Good attitude Nav. 
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I think this game would have been a little different if chaos13 had actually been around to push himself as town. He could have tried to be the 5th man for the circle of 4 instead of VisceraEyes which would have been a really good scenario for scum. A chaos13/Palmar/Navilus team, or something like that, passed on chaos13/Palmar/Dirkzor/navilus/prplhz votes would have been awesome for spies.
Resistance is really a game in which there is not very far from victory to defeat for either side.
I don't really think that Navilus played spectacularly or anything Blazinghand and kita really got screwed over this game by that and by how chaos13 wasn't able to be as active as he ideally could have been.
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