Team [UoN]Sentinel: [UoN]Sentinel, Blazinghand, VisceraEyes

Navillus - Nay
Palmar - Nay
[UoN]Sentinel - Yay
kitaman27 - Nay
Dirkzor - Nay
chaos13 - Yay
VisceraEyes - Yay
Blazinghand - Yay
prplhz - Nay

4 Yays, 5 Nays
Team [UoN]Sentinel is Rejected!

kitaman27 is the next leader

The current deadline to post a team is in just over 24 hours, at 00:00 GMT (+00:00), or 24 february 01:00 KST.
If kitaman27 has not submitted a team by then, he will be skipped and the next one in line will be the Leader.

Blazinghand

United States25552 Posts

February 23 2012 15:32 GMT

#422

i love being asleep and havi g word put in my mouth. 2 scumreads atm are palm and kita. Working on a third.

Re: this team. Would be ok swapping sent for chaos... mayyyyybe navi.

Blazinghand

United States25552 Posts

February 23 2012 15:34 GMT

#423

Kita is scum. Dont even need to hear his team.

##vote kitaman27: nay

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

February 23 2012 15:36 GMT

#424

the words put in your mouth make a lot more sense than your own, so maybe you should just stick with that?

Blazinghand

United States25552 Posts

February 23 2012 15:37 GMT

#425

Be a good scum palmar and try to act town will you

[UoN]Sentinel

United States11320 Posts

February 23 2012 15:37 GMT

#426

I'd just like to see what kind of team Kita proposes. This will interest me a lot.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

February 23 2012 15:39 GMT

#427

btw

sentinel, you nayvoted the first team. Why did you do that? Do you think one of me/nav/dirk are scum? In addition, you saw the exchange between me and BH, do you think he's being logical?

chaos13

Canada885 Posts

February 23 2012 15:43 GMT

#428

On February 24 2012 00:36 Palmar wrote:
the words put in your mouth make a lot more sense than your own, so maybe you should just stick with that?

You're a bright, cheerful, shining light in the center of town square. Right where the gallows would normally be. Now stop insulting players and try shutting the hell up.

[UoN]Sentinel

United States11320 Posts

February 23 2012 15:44 GMT

#429

Palmar I thought you were scum for the same reason I think kita is scum - your defense consisted of claiming you're town and virtually nothing else, and your defense of Navillus was setting him up to be a fall guy. If the team got sabotaged and it said "1 spy on team" then Navillus, who was under suspicion at the time, would take all of the fire for it.

I'll read the exchange a little bit later since the class I'm in ends in about 2 minutes - but I should be back in ~3 hours.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

February 23 2012 15:55 GMT

#430

Who cares about me claiming I'm town, that's irrelevant. All my actions scream town.

kitaman27

United States9245 Posts

February 23 2012 16:03 GMT

#431

I've got an exam in a bit, posting my team when I get back.

Navillus

United States1188 Posts

February 23 2012 16:31 GMT

#432

Okay I think most of us think that Kita is scum, but before we nayvote him we should try to agree on ONE team that we say should be the team, and then nayvote anything else and be even more sure of our scum read. I emphasize one because we can't come up with like a few "good" teams then let him choose because there will likely be scum in at least one of them and it lets him have the power to choose that. To start I'll propose/agree with what someone said last page, Me, Dirkzor, VE. As of right now unless we all agree on something else, I will nay any other team from Kita.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

February 23 2012 18:33 GMT

#433

I want to see the team Kita proposes. FOR SCIENCE!!!

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

February 23 2012 18:35 GMT

#434

Navillus, do you have another town-read you'd be willing to sub in for yourself? I understand you'd rather not, yours being the only alignment yadda yadda, but do you have a town read besides me and Dirk that you'd be willing to send out theoretically?

Navillus

United States1188 Posts

February 23 2012 19:08 GMT

#435

Ehhh not really not just because I'm my only 100% town read also I just don't have that many people I'm comfortable with, honestly I think it would be a problem if I actually had like 4 or 5 people I'd be happy to put in, that would make it way too easy to get scum in. I suppose maybe sentinel and maybe Palmar, but honestly I can't say atm if I would yay-vote either of those.

kitaman27

United States9245 Posts

February 23 2012 20:06 GMT

#436

On February 24 2012 01:31 Navillus wrote:
Okay I think most of us think that Kita is scum, but before we nayvote him we should try to agree on ONE team that we say should be the team, and then nayvote anything else and be even more sure of our scum read. I emphasize one because we can't come up with like a few "good" teams then let him choose because there will likely be scum in at least one of them and it lets him have the power to choose that. To start I'll propose/agree with what someone said last page, Me, Dirkzor, VE. As of right now unless we all agree on something else, I will nay any other team from Kita.

Funny how the biggest reason people see me as scummy was because I wanted to be part of the team. Lets look at the first two teams:

Team Palmar: Palmar, Dirkzor, Navillus

Navillus - Failed to vote!
Palmar - Yay
[UoN]Sentinel - Nay
kitaman27 - Nay
Dirkzor - Yay
chaos13 - Nay
VisceraEyes - Nay
Blazinghand - Nay
prplhz - Yay

Team [UoN]Sentinel: [UoN]Sentinel, Blazinghand, VisceraEyes

Navillus - Nay
Palmar - Nay
[UoN]Sentinel - Yay
kitaman27 - Nay
Dirkzor - Nay
chaos13 - Yay
VisceraEyes - Yay
Blazinghand - Yay
prplhz - Nay

Of the 17 votes cast, FIFTEEN of them directly correlated to whether or not the player voting was included on the team. You guys can rant and moan as much as you want, but everyone else has been doing the same thing. I'm being called scummy is because I was being less diplomatic with my approach by making a bold statement.

Here is my team submission:

Myself
Dirkzor
VisceraEyes

Rather than auto 'naying' the team because I must be scum for wanting to win or missing a part of the setup, read through my filter. I have always had the towns best interest in mind.

Why I included Dirkzor: He is hunting for scum tells and making logical sense. Additionally, he isn't so overly confident that he appears to have knowledge of everyones alignment or that he is pushing a scum agenda.

Why I included VE: He is actively questioning things that don't make sense to him. He is willing to share his opinion without being prompted and isn't playing overly safe.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

February 23 2012 20:07 GMT

#437

voting nay because kita is on the team. I'm expanding my acceptable list of players to Palmar, Dirkzor, Navillus, VisceraEyes and prplhz

[UoN]Sentinel

United States11320 Posts

February 23 2012 20:20 GMT

#438

Nay.

Dear Kita... please explain why 15/17 of the votes directly correlated to whether or not the player was on the team. I don't see too much proof of this.

Going through your filter, you accuse several players of "buddying" Dirkzor. Then you go and buddy Dirkzor (also you call him "aggressive and vocal" near the end of Page 1 of your filter). Double standards ftw.

Then come posts about misunderstanding the setup... then the posts that gave me a red read on him where his only piece of evidence was that he knows he's town. Then more bullshit math and then here we are.

I'll support Nav, Dirk and VE since I have pretty good reads on all of them for now.

kitaman27

United States9245 Posts

February 23 2012 20:25 GMT

#439

On February 21 2012 05:31 Palmar wrote:
I'm also considering kita as a possible townie. We need to get a team suggestion soon though.

On February 21 2012 18:44 Palmar wrote:
I considered putting prplhz and kitaman on the team, they seem towny enough.

On February 22 2012 05:25 Palmar wrote:
Kitaman is being so dumb he could be town

On February 23 2012 01:24 Palmar wrote:
Kitaman is just failing and being dumb. No idea if it's intentional (scum) or accidental (town).

Oh hai Palmar. Glad to see you stop by. Funny how you've always called me dumb, rather than scum. Yet now you're going to auto-nay my submission because I'm included? (I'm sure you'll call me scum now that I've called you out). Only after others start the auto-nay kita campaign do you jump on it as well?

So lets get this straight, you refuse to vote for me because I missed the fact that mafia can communicate with each other? Or that I wanted to be part of the team (something you're voting record shows that you're 3/3 as well)

You can join sent on my scum list. No more bullying the town around.