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TheToast
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On February 10 2012 11:50 prplhz wrote: A NO LYNCH HAPPENS DO YOU REALLY WANT TO GO THROUGH ANOTHER DAY LIKE THIS??????????????? Well if mafia kill you off I think it would be much more pleasant.  | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
##Unvote: [UoN]Sentinel ##Vote: BaronFel He's a confirmed scum IMO, no risk vote. GOGOGOGOG | ||
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TheToast
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TheToast
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Believe it or not, it was your guys' arguments that moved me away from looking at Bluelightz... | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On February 10 2012 11:58 prplhz wrote: It's Bluelightz and anybody who doesn't vote him is autoscum. If a third pops on, I'll move my vote. If nothing else he is hurting town by muddying the waters. | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On February 10 2012 12:01 prplhz wrote: THIS IS SO BAD THIS IS SO SO SO SO BAD THIS IS THE WORST THING I HAVE EVER SEEN HAPPEN ON THIS FORUM Dude calm down before you get yourself banned from the Mafia forum. If we want to win this though, we have to use Night 3 to agree on exactly who is Mafia. They still can only kill one tonight. However I have the strangest feeling that Bluelightz and BaronFel will both still be with us. FML. | ||
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TheToast
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TheToast
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On February 10 2012 12:04 EchelonTee wrote: toast it's partially his fault, vote right after deadline, I think he's also condemning himself with that post. we can't keep subtly or un-subtly bashing each other, it causes teh disunity. Well Day 3 wasn't a complete waste. I think we have a pretty clear idea of who is where now. I also think we have saved ourselves from a potential town lynch. We have a whole 24 hours, I think this is enough time to figure out whose gotta die day 4. | ||
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TheToast
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On February 10 2012 12:50 EchelonTee wrote: you sure? pushed Sentinel rly hard and hasn't done much else. irritatingly enough I can't distinguish scum lurking from weirdtownplay lurking As I said in my very hastily written argument, Nisani's play would be counter productive for scum. Two days in a row he ignored major bandwagons on townies that resulted in lynches--even arguing against them in favor of Sentinel. Scum's goal is going to be to get a townie lynched; any townie. In the middle of the big bandwagon against Sinesis Nisani was basically saying, "no he's town, no way he could be mafia Sentinel is the one". This doesn't make any sense in the context of mafia. Why not push Time and Sinesis given that you blend in with the other townies doing the same? Why try to stop the bandwagon against them? What mafia have to gain from doing this? | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On February 10 2012 15:10 Nisani201 wrote: I skimmed through the last 4 pages and I guess I missed his claim. Forget what I said. I'll think this through. Nisani, this makes me wonder how many other posts you have neglected to read. Also probably sheds some light on your crusade against Sentinel for this whole game. | ||
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TheToast
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Question: does anyone have any evidence that points to BaronFel being town? | ||
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TheToast
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On February 11 2012 03:06 GMarshal wrote: I'm not going to change the format midgame, if you want to switch to a 24/24 schedule, then I need a PM from every player in the game requesting it ^_^ Yeah while we are at it why don't we change the rules so that town immediately knows who scum is and can lynch all of them day 1. On February 11 2012 03:03 prplhz wrote: No. I'm not going to be silent today and hope town gets anything going because that went pretty badly yesterday. Since we're at LYLO we need to lynch scum, duh. Lets lynch Nisani201 and BaronFel. Lets start with BaronFel. Seriously. Fucking. Stop. Now. Stop just calling out random people for lynching. What's your reasoning against Nisani? Where's your evidence? Are you basing this on reality or something you imagined? I hate to be causing "dissent" in the ranks of town, but you seriously are hurting us with this crap. You have been a destabalizing force in this game from Day 1. You have helped lynch two townies, you have turned suspicion away from potential mafia members onto yourself, you have continued to attack people with no evidence at all. Day 3 was yet another example of your "randomly call people out and hope for the best" strategy in action. I'm not even so sure you knew Sinani was scum, I think you just thought it would be fun to shoot him to get him back for whatever he did to you in sc and got lucky. You have to be the single worst town player in the history of this game. Unless you have evidence and SOUND reasoning behind your claims, seriously stop posting. You are disrupting the real conversations of town members who are actually trying to win this game, and are allowing the mafia to go unnoticed. Stop being so emotional and use some logic and reasoning if you are going to call out anyone else, and at least try to use one quote of the person you are calling out to illustrate your point. For goodness sakes stop hurting your own team! | ||
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TheToast
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Day 1 BaronFel was supremely lurking, he had a grand total of like 2 posts. He hopped on the Sinesis train early, and stayed there long after everyone else moved off Sinesis. He did end up changing his vote to Timeaisis interestingly though: On February 04 2012 09:16 BaronFel wrote: After reading through the thread (sorry for "lurking", I'll try to post more), I am leaning towards Sinensis not being scum, but I think he's still dangerous with his ideas. (I personally feel his logic is sometimes faulty), but as you said it may just be extreme newness to the game. ##Unvote: Sinensis I think we should vote, but I'm not fully sold on Sentinal being scum just yet... and prplhz has been making stronger arguments since his rough start... ##Vote: Timeaisis For now (He has been acting odd, and I think playing up the "Im new" card a bit too much), although I'm still watching prplhz (for having such a surprising turn around of character) and Sinensis (for some questionable logic, which even as a townie, is dangerous). Here's something I mentioned before. ET in his analysis called out Time for playing the "I'm new" card too much. After a quick peek at Time's filter I realized that he had only mentioned this twice at the extreme start of the game. The word "new" only appears once in Time's filter before ET called him out. I called out ET about this one Day 2, and ET has since admitted that his analysis was bad. For Baron to have picked up on this, he must have just been copying exactly what ET had written without any checking Time's filter for himself (as checking would have led him to the same conclusion as I reached, that ET's reasoning was bad). VERY interesting that Baron was just repeating exactly what ET was saying, without mentioning that it was ET who said it. It seems the natural comment would be "I agree with ET about Time playing the I'm new card too much". To frame it the way he does makes it sound like he came up with this reasoning, almost like he is trying to encourage a bandwagon. Night 1 Baron was back on Sinesis however: On February 04 2012 12:23 BaronFel wrote: Sinensis, you aren't really making this easier. While you may not be acting like scum, you're really hurting towns chances by throwing around accusations and not really giving any logical arguments =/ Things get interesting here. Night one Bluelightz called out BaronFel as potential scum. Everyone completely ignored Bluelightz and the comment was forgotten. Day 2 Baron brings the comment back up: On February 05 2012 14:52 BaronFel wrote: Sorry for lurking bluelightz, I was really busy today  I'll try to post more.If you want my opinion, I was looking at prplhz after the time vote, but he was pretty logical and caught on to sinani so I have no real reason not to believe he isn't the vig. I don't have a real big opinion on you, and it seems you don't either if you're just accusing me of lurking Senensis as I said in day 1 seems to just be hampering the town and I really don't think he'll ever really try to help us find the rest of the scum...(I could overlook his day 1, but day 2 it's almost like he's trying to do this on purpose. If there was a joker in this game, I'd assume he was it xD) ##Vote: Sinensis If he is mafia, why bring the comment back up? It was ignored, by bringing it back up he would only risk drawing greater attention to himself. His reasoning against Sinesis seems okay, and he is continuing the same line of thought he had Day 1 and Night 1. He then turns his attention to Nisani, basically saying he thinks Nisani is sketchy because he doesn't explain his posts well enough. When he elaborates though, there is something very strange in his post: On February 09 2012 08:55 BaronFel wrote: I'm going to keep with my original suspicion and vote Nisani. I think his posts today have made me more suspicious of him (even if he didn't have me as the second target). It feels as though he knows his argument against us isn't that strong and so he's trying to quickly push the votes and focus on to someone else since he knows people were looking at him n2. ##Vote: Nisani201 Ummmmm.... whose us? No, really, whose us? Also interesting is how he dodged the question about the night 1 and 2 hits: On February 10 2012 11:42 BaronFel wrote: I'm not really sure I can give anything amazing in terms of why Vilonis and mderg were killed. They were both pretty logical and weren't talking a huge amount, that's probably as good as any explanation. As for why they didn't hit others, not sure either. It would just be speculation and couldn't really be used in an argument for or against anyone. He's quick to cover his ass here. Couldn't be used in an argument against anyone? If you can come up with a good theory as to why these two were killed I bet it could be used... If I had to guess V and mderg got killed as suspected blues. BF's statement here about the two not talking much is interesting, it's in the best interest of the town for blues to lay low. All in all, I'm not 100% about Baron right now, but he is looking like a really good suspect. I'd love to hear his defense about the "us" comment... | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On February 10 2012 11:47 EchelonTee wrote: Sentinel didn't you say you had a "final defense"? or something? was that it? On February 10 2012 11:49 EchelonTee wrote: what happens if no one has a majority? ##Unvote: [UoN]Sentinel ##Vote: No Lynch Why did you wait until I put my vote on Sentinel to unvote him? If you thought there was a chance he was town, why did you have your vote on him? | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On February 11 2012 05:58 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: You brought up BaronFel. Actually prplhz brought him up first, though I was already looking at him. Sentinel, are you still looking at Nisani? Who else do you currently think is scum? | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On February 11 2012 06:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I think Baron is definitely scum and that is who I will vote for if I survive. Bluelightz I have an FoS on but I'm not 100% convinced. Nisani I'll hold as neutral until he comes back and swings that either way. Here's the thing. BaronFel is one person that Bluelightz has been after this whole game. Bluelightz called out BaronFel night 1, Day 2, and Day 3 he wrote a whole big thing about Baron being scummy. So if BaronFel is scum, where does that leave Bluelightz? | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On February 11 2012 08:40 EchelonTee wrote: Reading through stuff posted since I was last here. Toast this comment is really, really not necessary. Yeah that came out way too harsh, not what I originally intended. I stand by what I said about him hurting town though. On February 11 2012 09:03 EchelonTee wrote: I disagree; Bluelightz has flip flopped on BaronFel constantly. They have been "conversing" in thread; bluelightz posts suspicion, BF posts something that in no way clears him, then bluelightz says "oh ok I think he's green now". That is not at ALL bluelightz being after BF all game. it's scum interaction. This is an interesting point that I had not considered. It would explain why BF felt the need on Day 2 to address Bluelightz comment during night 1 that had gotten completely lost. I'm still not sure about blue though. | ||
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TheToast
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##Vote: BaronFel | ||
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TheToast
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On February 11 2012 13:20 EchelonTee wrote: I'm not trying to discredit your analysis, just tying up what are imo loose ends. case is already well grounded. ##Vote: BaronFel Yeah I don't necessarily disagree with anything. You're right about point two doesn't prove anything really. With BF there is a real lack of content to analyze, I just brought it up to try to be thorough. I think the case is pretty good here. If we are wrong, however, town is going to lose this game. So everyone keep scrutinizing and analyzing. We cannot afford to screw up this lynch. Assuming we are right though, the real hard part is going to be Day 5... | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
BaronFel (5): TheToast, Nisani201, Bluelightz, EchelonTee, prplhz Not voting: BaronFel I guess the other mafia has just decided to pile on. Interesting. | ||
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