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Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
February 13 2012 12:31 GMT
#2659
On February 13 2012 17:31 Palmar wrote:
ok let's do this:

I'm a Detective. My role name is Calendar Man

I checked Radfield last night, he's:

Talia al Ghul




Radfield. Time to claim which DT you are...

I propose that we kill either Radfield or Palmar today, and if we:

a) kill Radfield and he isn't Talia (or someone who have an ability to appear as Talia) then we kill Palmar.
b) kill Palmar, and if he in fact flips Calandar Man, or more likely Batman, then we kill Radfield.

Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
February 13 2012 12:46 GMT
#2663
On February 13 2012 10:36 Katina wrote:
Hey, I'm still without internet for the time being since I just moved. Hopefully it won't be for long but I can check the thread at least once a day minimum.

On to important matters:

I'm still suspicious of Toad. He gets away with causing a shit storm in the thread with all his claiming and barely anyone bats an eye. And he continues to post big walls of text. I can't even think of something beneficial he's done for the town. I believe Palmar was saying that we should kill Toad and I have no idea why he wants to sheep along with whatever Kurumi says when he's been adamant about killing Toad.

I would also like to bring more attention to Tunkeg, as after rereading his filter I'm confident he is mafia. What's particularly interesting is that he comes in today with an accusation against evantrees. This is the first time he has ever mentioned evantrees (check his filter), and I cannot help but feel like he just chose evantrees as his target to blend in (this is after Radfield called evantrees out today). The inconsistency with his posting is becoming more noticeable, and it feels like he just does not care about the town. evantrees has been picking up a few votes on a whim recently, and that makes me wary about lynching him at the moment, though I admit his filter is pretty sad.

##Vote: Tunkeg

Assuming that BM and layabout are telling the truth, BM should be slapped in the face for not protecting someone more important. And by slapped in the face I mean we should ban him from posting for a day so I won't have to gauge my eyes out every time I see his name.

And since nobody's seemed to notice, Forumite has yet to make a post in a long while that actively displays his opinion.


Why you no like me?

You've been on my case from day 1, and have yet to post something convincing. You have to do better than that if you want to get me lynched.

Do you think I was born today?

In fact I think you just like me, you are like a secret admirer poking at me to get my attention. But you know what. I haven't been christened yet, and therefor I am not going to marry you. So get off my back before I take ill. So just chill, I suspected that you like me from day one, but not before it grew worse I knew it. So back off before my love for you have died or you might find yourself burried in sorrow.

That was the end!
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
February 13 2012 12:53 GMT
#2666
On February 13 2012 21:40 Adam4167 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 21:12 Palmar wrote:
On February 13 2012 21:05 Adam4167 wrote:
Link

Bah good enough.
##Vote evantrees


Not that I actually care, but if you want to improve at mafia, you should think harder about this.


What reason do I have to listen to you right now? You've made yet another claim, which does not line up with all of the previous powers and night actions you've claimed, you're going to tell me you never claimed anything, I'm going to roll my eyes and not bother replying.

See how much time I just saved us?



I think everyone knows why he does this. He is Batman, end of story.

Why?
Because he can't be town behaving like this, unless he just hates us all and want to troll us.
Because he would be the most obvious scum ever behaving like he do, therefor I cannot see any thinking human being playing like this if they are scum. But then again he might just level the shit out of me.
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
February 13 2012 12:59 GMT
#2668
On February 13 2012 21:53 Tunkeg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 21:40 Adam4167 wrote:
On February 13 2012 21:12 Palmar wrote:
On February 13 2012 21:05 Adam4167 wrote:
Link

Bah good enough.
##Vote evantrees


Not that I actually care, but if you want to improve at mafia, you should think harder about this.


What reason do I have to listen to you right now? You've made yet another claim, which does not line up with all of the previous powers and night actions you've claimed, you're going to tell me you never claimed anything, I'm going to roll my eyes and not bother replying.

See how much time I just saved us?



I think everyone knows why he does this. He is Batman, end of story.

Why?
Because he can't be town behaving like this, unless he just hates us all and want to troll us.
Because he would be the most obvious scum ever behaving like he do, therefor I cannot see any thinking human being playing like this if they are scum. But then again he might just level the shit out of me.



EBWOP:
Because he can't be town behaving like this, unless he just hates us all and want to troll us TO DEATH!
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
February 13 2012 13:27 GMT
#2673
On February 13 2012 22:06 risk.nuke wrote:
Why are we lynching eventress?
Lynch one of these guys
jayjay
forumite
radfield
tunkeg


Another one who don't like me. Makes me a sad panda.

On one side you have guys like Palmar, Kurumi and WBG (when he were alive) cuddling me and telling everyone that I use logic, that I should get medic protection and that I shouldn't be on any scum list.

On the other side you have guys (and girls) like you, that want me lynched. Maybe becuase you are scum and see me as an easy lynch, or maybe because I am totally useless.

So I am officially the village idiot (or am I just Keyser Söse?)
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
February 13 2012 14:39 GMT
#2702
On February 13 2012 23:30 Palmar wrote:
thank me later.


You don't need thanks because you are the hero we deserve, but not the one we need right now. So we'll hunt you because you can take it. Because you are not our hero. You're a silent guardian, a watchful protector. A dark knight.
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
February 13 2012 15:10 GMT
#2744
Palmar is finally making sense. I think you are right Palmar. I think Radfield is scum. Scumteam decided to bus Sheth for towncred on Radfield. Then Radfield "checks" WBG, oh, how convinient. And his last move is claiming the Calender Man (same as Palmar said he was).He have played a bold scumgame, but he have done it in the safest possible manner.

Sheth as a DT read, very safe way to get towncred for bussing a teammate that were allready somewhat in trouble. It probably were Sheth himself that proposed it...

WBG as a DT read after he died. "Proving" that he is a good DT checking the right players, and that he needs to be kept alive, while not having to tell someone a wrong read.

Claiming Calender Man, same as Palmar, knowing he had to claim, and that only Azrael and Calander Man was unclaimed it was a easy choice. because everyone knows Palmar is Batman, and because there is no need for the real Calander Man to come forth and claim when it allready is a contested claim.

##Vote Radfield

Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
February 13 2012 15:19 GMT
#2757
On February 14 2012 00:17 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 23:55 Palmar wrote:
On February 13 2012 23:53 Forumite wrote:
On February 13 2012 23:48 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 13 2012 23:45 Forumite wrote:
On February 13 2012 23:21 Toadesstern wrote:
ok here's the deal. There's no way that all 4 of you guys: Palmar, Rad, Kita and forumite will flip red. Especially since wbg flipped red yesterday I highly doubt that. More like 1 of those 1 red (which is already a lot with wbg since everyone says he's so good as mafia), 1 or 2 end up being third party and whatever is leftover is town.
Ironically I don't want to lynch forumite anymore.

<3

It´s possible that Palmar tells the truth about Radfield, and we are choosing between Scum and 3rd Party, but Radfields DT claim D2 would have been an odd gamble. I´m leaning towards lynching Palmar, and have someone check Radfield. I´m not sure how Radfield would flip and I´m almost certain Palmar is 3rd Party, and it feels like killing the possibly usefull Batman is preferable to mislynching a Town DT.

Either way I think the lynch should be between Palmar or Radfield.


it's 15v5. Mafia has 3KP. A mislynch is basicly a loss for town.

What do you propose we do then?

If I believe Palmar is Batman, then I can accept that Palmar gives a correct rolecheck on Radfield so that Town can go on killing scum. Wouldn´t that make Radfield a good target?


I don't have rolechecks, I'm a vigilante. My role name is Riddler.

I SHOT radfield night one.

I couldn't shoot last night because I was roleblocked.


Lol palmar biggest bullshitter in the history of bullshit.

Palmar i remember you being trolly in Hammer Mini mafia But it was mostly at the start of the game. You got me loling man. Palmar answer me this.

Should we lynch Radfield or leave him for a shot?

Think about this. IF your (Palmar) is third party (batman) and you claim that Radfield is Talia (who batman cant kill) and if Catwomen (Kurumi) wants to help town and give us his shot.

Then we just have Kurumi shoot Radfield. So we dont lose a lynch just in case hes blue. And if hes blue then we just lynch your ass Palmar :D

Sound good?


Why would Catwoman want to help town and lynch scum?
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
February 13 2012 15:25 GMT
#2764
On February 14 2012 00:24 Forumite wrote:
Anyone but me thinks Jay is scum from his last few posts?


Me
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
February 13 2012 15:26 GMT
#2765
Or at least his last few posts makes him look scummier indeed.
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
February 13 2012 16:29 GMT
#2810
On February 14 2012 00:59 layabout wrote:
All of this crap is another reason that we should be killing Palmar.

People who looked most suspicious from day 1 vote:
At this moment in time evantrees is leading the vote.

Tyrran stands a similar chance of flipping scum to evantrees.
There are the candidates that are likeliest to flip scum, (but they could be town).

It has been (sort of) agreed that rg's night action should shed some light on his own and on chaoser's alignment.

BM has claimed medic and i would be willing to say that he is far likelier town than other candidates.

Other People that it has been suggested we lynch:
Kitaman27:
stands an excelllent chance of flipping scum. I was waiting for him to come back and post but he doesn't seem to care. He does not wish to respond to my case in full as he promised he would do last night should he survive. My only resevation about killing Kitaman is that if Kurumi is, in fact Harley Quinn, then the case against Kitaman27 is weaker.
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 13:00 kitaman27 wrote:
Layabout, I'll respond to some of your posts if I survive the night.

liar.

Jaybrundage:
Is perhaps the epitome of "posts to look like he is contributing without actually contributing". He has been lurking heavily all game and he displays no pro-town motives.

Forumite:
Has yet to put effort into helping town find lynch targets. All his posts are about peripheral issues and he has not made himself useful whatsoever. He has undermined town objectives all game long.

Tunkeg:
Likely town. But + Show Spoiler [Tunkeg do not open this spoiler] +
I think he has an "unorthodox approach" to playing as town
and as such i am struggling to understand his motives. In the first two days he looked green to me. Since there are so many better scum candidates lynching him would be a horrendous move.

hiro protagonist:
You could quite easily argue his alignment either way. He shows up every now and then. He calls most of us you stupid, not so subtly tells us to kill him and leaves. If he is your strongest scumread at this point in the game then you clearly haven't been looking for scum.

Ico/Razerflash:
I felt that ico looked green. I think razer looks a little red. My concern is that those who are placing suspicion on him are not doing it wholeheartedly. I felt that Kitaman27's early case was laughable. When i saw this quote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 03:47 ico wrote:
Sheth: I really can't read his behaviour so far. It is scummy, but he isn't the only one posting pointless rabble. For now he got the benefit of the doubt.

in kitaman's "in case i die post" i was suspicious.
But when looked at in context (clicky)
He says that he think's cyber cheese is a better candidate and votes for him. He may have been hedging which is scummy but i think that the quote by itself is misleading and makes ico appear scummier than he did.
Who was misleading us? Kitaman, (+chaoser who has sheeped without sharing his reasons)

JayJay:
I may be somewhat biased when commenting on Jayjay because he has made various comments in which he has taken liberties with logic.
I do not like JayJay's posts. He assumes things he shouldn't and if i had a gun i would have shot him night 1. He often talks about subjects that do not further town's goals. But he has made some posts that indicate he cares about town winning the game. And tha is more than can be said for far too many of you. So we shouldn't lynch him today/

The Radfield/ Palmar debacle:
We have next to no reason to not beleive radfield at this point. We have every reason to not trust Palmar.

If Radfield is telling the truth.
Palmar is confirmed "not-town" (or possibly the "worst townie ever" + Show Spoiler +
Could town really play worse than claiming 3/4 power roles and lying all the time?+ Show Spoiler +
the answer is probably yes but Palmar is still playing really badly if he is town
)

What if Rafield isn't calendar man?

Radfield's actions do make some sense if he is scum, so if Palmar were to flip DT then Radfield would make an excellent lynch.

What then if Radfield is scum ?

Palmar will flip 3rd party and we will have lynched a player that intended to kill 1 or two town blues and that was heavily trashing up the thread. We will not have killed a townie.

OR

Palmar will flip as a VT that you should never play in a game with again, or a dt that you should never play in a game with again. If he flips one of the roles he has claimed then we could possibly use that information.

If Palmar flips town (he will not) then we are in a better position to evaluate Radfield's alignment. But if Palmar was calendar man then will will know that radfield is "not town"

OR
radfield was bussing another teammate for town cred, which is fine.

What if Rafield is 3rd Party?

Palmar will flip 3rd party and we will have lynched a player that intended to kill 1 or two town blues and that was heavily trashing up the thread. We will not have killed a townie.

OR

Palmar will flip as a VT that you should never play in a game with again, or a dt that you should never play in a game with again. If he flips one of the roles he has claimed then we could possibly use that information.

If Palmar flips town (he will not) then we are in a better position to evaluate Radfield's alignment. But if Palmar was calendar man then will will know that radfield is "not town"
Palmar is almost certainly "not town" and killing him will have additional benefits - being able to actually focus on the lynch.

OR
Radfield has caught us another scum. Hi-fives all-around!

Lynching Palmar could have a range of outcomes from, lynching a town DT and then lynching batman the next day( a monumentally improbable outcome). To lynching scum (a fairly likely outcome). Today and being in a great position tomorrow.
Whatever happens lynching Palmar should greatly increase our ability to scumhunt and produce useful discussion.
Palmar is almost certainly "not town". He has been having fun at YOUR expense.
KILL PALMAR WITH FIRE!


I do agree that we need to do a Radfield/Palmar double. Meaning we lynch one, and if the other one is turns out a certain way we need to lynch the other. BUT, I disagree with you on the order. I want to take out Radfield first, because I think Palmar finally are starting to make sense in this game. I can not see him being anything but third party, and a Batman third party is most likely. The joker is out there and is ready for the taking for Batman at anytime, therefor he should as I advocated in the beginning of the game be very pro-town. A pro-town super Palmar is never wrong.

Palmars case on Radfield also makes sense.


BTW your Tunkeg spoiler, haha, almost wet myself. Was expecting the worst, and I understand what you wanted to say (Tunkeg is the worst townie ever!), but I appreciate you wrapping it in, and saying what you did with gritted teeth instead )
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
February 13 2012 16:49 GMT
#2822
On February 14 2012 01:47 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 01:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
He's not Batman. He's pretty much CLAIMED Batman which is against the rules and playing against the rules isn't something Palmar does.

He's scum. Lynch it.


he never claimed batman.


He have claimed anything but Batman. Thats what makes me think he's Batman. I would say playing the way Palmar have done as either Scum or Town would be incredible bad. But then again if he levels me it would be incredible good as scum.
/WIFOM
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
February 13 2012 17:44 GMT
#2854
On February 14 2012 02:40 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 02:34 Jayjay54 wrote:
On February 14 2012 02:31 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 14 2012 02:28 Jayjay54 wrote:
On February 14 2012 02:25 Toadesstern wrote:
the only issue I have right now is, that both CW and the Bat are trying to help town right now. At least one of them has to kill 2 blue roles.

Kurumi said several times that he wants me to beg for mercy and Kurumi shot wbg. I really thought it's the other way arround: Kurumi = Bat, Palmar = CW because of that.


didn't palmar say that he couldn't kill rad, because he's talya? I thought the whole point is based on that.

I am pretty certain he's batman.


could be a lie and he dt'ed him. We can't lynch third-party and we need to lynch mafia. I'm just having 2nd thoughts right now :p


you really want to do this, don't you? If we lynch scum you are even more dead , but that's a noble sacrifice.

so who do you think? VEs recent posts were bad.


he hasn't posted a lot the last couple of days (RL-days) and now out of nowhere all thoe fancy people come crowling out of nowhere. Also he's better than what did in his most recent posts. I thought he's town early on because he's not trolling at all, tried to play although he posted very little and it looked like he tried.
VE is one of the guys who are quite infamous here and the last couple of games he tried to get rid of that reputation and really showed some good games. He was pretty vocal in all of them and tried to not tunnel.
He's doing that right now and as mentioned he really isn't that bad. I think he's defending his scumbuddies which obviously would make hiro look green right now so I am confused again :p


Hey Toad, don't do anything stupid, like shooting VE this night. There are plenty others who are better targets.
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
February 13 2012 18:31 GMT
#2890
The scum QT is on red alert now I see. Sending the lurky lurker hiro to vote for Palmar (nice to see you hiro, where have you been?), and then having their trumph card chaoser come in and insult everyone of us, in an attempt to void this lynch. Do not get intimitadet by this scaretactics, make your choice based on the cases and ignore shouting baboons like chaoser.
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
February 13 2012 18:56 GMT
#2914
On February 14 2012 03:55 hiro protagonist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 03:51 Kurumi wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:49 hiro protagonist wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:41 Kurumi wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:39 hiro protagonist wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:36 Kurumi wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:34 hiro protagonist wrote:
eh, your right layabout.

Palmar is scum or 3rd party. Nothing about his claim makes sense, and he has claimed a lot this game, dispite the fact that when people call him out on it he tells them to stop lying. He also makes cases, only then not to push them very hard. He sheeps Kumari, thus leavening his guilt at voting for someone on him. Palmar trolls alot as both town and scum, but he cant help but be useful as town even when he is trolling. Somethings off, and the simplest explanation is that he is not town. Scum Palmar can do all of this shit and get away with it because he is a very good at arguing himself out of a lynch. I think he is scum.

Palmar does not troll.
He claimed everything.
He coloured every player with corresponding colour to him, but he left himself with a rainbow.
He called Radfield Talia based on him surviving a shot.
He got rbed N2 instead of Radfield.
Radfield is alive on D3 when he claimed DT D2.
Ding-ding?

All WIFOM. these statements do not deduce aliment. Actions do, and his actions have not been protown in my eyes.

So Radfield is alive because of what?
He did not get shot N2. He did not get roleblocked N2.
Why he isn't dead?

Why is he not dead? They thought someone would be protecting him? Why no roleblock? Dont no. But If Rad was scum he could have easily claimed roleblocked, or come in with a "check" on someone that died last night, as is what happened, but so can real DTs. WIFOM. These incidents dont make someone scum, there actions do.

Double stack, do You think we've got stupid scum in this Player Roster?

Is WIFOM and a DT check from someone that has not been playing there usual protown self your only reason for wanting Rad dead?


I would say you wanting to have him alive also counts very in favor of lynching him...
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
February 13 2012 20:14 GMT
#2965
On February 14 2012 05:04 Radfield wrote:
You guys are following two basically confirmed third parties who want to lynch the one player who has delivered scum on a silver platter.... what am I missing here?


I agree, both are pretty much confirmed 3rd party. If Palmar is Batman as many of thinks, then he knows who the Joker is, and can take him out any time he want to. So what interest would he have in missleading town? He basicly wins with town then. If I am wrong here and he is indeed fucking us over then he should die next day.

My view on todays lynch is that either you or Palmar must die today. Only other viable option is if we have someone that SCREAMS scum, a lynch on a player that is very likely to flip scum.

Yesterday I belived Evantrees to be very likely scum. But I cannot belive that both of you are scum, so either I was wrong about him, or I am wrong about you. Or even wrong about you both.


Radfield do you see any other options besides lynching you and Palmar. Who should we lynch then, and why? If not, you say you belive Palmar to be 3rd party (Batman), what good will it do town to lynch Batman?

Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
February 13 2012 20:24 GMT
#2977
On February 14 2012 05:22 Radfield wrote:
and anyone saying we should lynch me and then lynch Palmar when I flip DT is INCREDIBLY scummy. We either lynch Palmar today or not at all.


It doesn't look like a Palmar lynch is happening today. So who do you propose we lynch instead then?
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
February 13 2012 20:59 GMT
#2987
Hmmm, I don't know if I should get cold feets or what but it looks like it is the newer players + Forumite + 3rd party that is on the Radfield lynch.

Does this mean that:

a) We are getting properly manipulated by Palmar and Kurumi?
b) We are on the right track as some of the more experienced players would jumped all over this if they were Radfield were town and they were scum.
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
February 13 2012 21:00 GMT
#2988
On February 14 2012 05:59 Tunkeg wrote:
Hmmm, I don't know if I should get cold feets or what but it looks like it is the newer players + Forumite + 3rd party that is on the Radfield lynch.

Does this mean that:

a) We are getting properly manipulated by Palmar and Kurumi?
b) We are on the right track as some of the more experienced players would jumped all over this if they were Radfield were town and they were scum.


EBWOP:

Hmmm, I don't know if I should get cold feets or what but it looks like it is the newer players + Forumite + 3rd party that is on the Radfield lynch.

Does this mean that:

a) We are getting properly manipulated by Palmar and Kurumi?
b) We are on the right track as some of the more experienced players would have jumped all over this if they were scum and Radfield were town.
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
February 14 2012 06:17 GMT
#3115
Sweet. The new players coming through big time here :D We endured all the veterans attempts to derail this lynch. Also my hat of to Palmar and Kur for spearheading this lynch!
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