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On February 09 2012 20:32 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 20:30 Tunkeg wrote:On February 09 2012 20:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On February 09 2012 20:25 Forumite wrote:On February 09 2012 20:17 Toadesstern wrote:On February 09 2012 20:17 Toadesstern wrote:On February 09 2012 20:15 Forumite wrote:On February 09 2012 20:01 Toadesstern wrote:On February 09 2012 19:59 Tyrran wrote:On February 09 2012 19:49 Forumite wrote:
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No, you ruined things for Schworz. If you were trying to defend Two-Face, then you wouldn´t have taken back your claim when Schworz claimed. You made him a bigger target, when what you should have done is still claim Two-Face, then explain in the morning. Taking back your claim suggests that either you are the true Two-Face, or you don´t care about Schworz being nightkilled. I´m leaning towards the second one.
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Bullshit, breadcrumbing parts of your rolePM is a modkill offence, lying about breadcrumbing is not however. I don´t believe BC gave you two a free pass until I see it in the thread.
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Or the two of you and Toades are lying. Except for his read coming up as Quilty, rather than a role, is the only thing that looks weird about Schworz, otherwise he acts exactly like I would expect a Town Newbie seeing someone else fakeclaim his role would do.On the other hand you and Toades are giving off several scumsigns, drawing out a blue and then trying to get him killed. If either side is scum, then I´m leaning towards DocH and Toades.
##vote DoctorHelvetica Why would Toad&DocH sacrifice two mafia to get rid of two face, who is going to get killed sooner or later by catwoman anyway ( more likely sooner since he has claimed) ? Why we can argue a long time on whether or not they should be modkilled, what they are doing makes Zero sense as mafia. And even less as third party. Unless someone comes up with a good explanation, i'd rather lynch rGTheSchwortz. see that's how you confirm yourself as a townie to me. Forumite 'sup? OMGUS much? You still haven´t explained why you didn´t just keep claiming Two-Face yesterday. If you believed Schworz was Two-Face then you´d keep claiming. I kept claiming. Palmar retracted his claim and everything was going down so I stopped it and he even explained to everyone that I'm a vet who's trying to catch bullets to protect Two-Face. There was no way to stick with it at that point in time. EBWOP So? If you wanted to catch bullets, then say Palmar was lying, say he was just trying to protect you with the talk about mason, and keep claiming Two-Face. he fucked up. he can't actually go back and redo everything to make the best possible move so what exactly do you want? He want to hang him for it, and you to. I agree... For making a suboptimal play? Would you be happy if I just nameclaimed?
Him for playing a really really confusing game, which I can only belive to be non-townie. And you for getting DT checked comming out red, and after that filling this post up with alot of confusing stuff. You are the one who said either you or rgTS is lying. I belive it to be you, am I wrong, then we would by your logic kill him.
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On February 09 2012 20:39 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 20:37 Tunkeg wrote:On February 09 2012 20:32 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On February 09 2012 20:30 Tunkeg wrote:On February 09 2012 20:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On February 09 2012 20:25 Forumite wrote:On February 09 2012 20:17 Toadesstern wrote:On February 09 2012 20:17 Toadesstern wrote:On February 09 2012 20:15 Forumite wrote:On February 09 2012 20:01 Toadesstern wrote:
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see that's how you confirm yourself as a townie to me. Forumite 'sup?
OMGUS much? You still haven´t explained why you didn´t just keep claiming Two-Face yesterday. If you believed Schworz was Two-Face then you´d keep claiming. I kept claiming. Palmar retracted his claim and everything was going down so I stopped it and he even explained to everyone that I'm a vet who's trying to catch bullets to protect Two-Face. There was no way to stick with it at that point in time. EBWOP So? If you wanted to catch bullets, then say Palmar was lying, say he was just trying to protect you with the talk about mason, and keep claiming Two-Face. he fucked up. he can't actually go back and redo everything to make the best possible move so what exactly do you want? He want to hang him for it, and you to. I agree... For making a suboptimal play? Would you be happy if I just nameclaimed? Him for playing a really really confusing game, which I can only belive to be non-townie. And you for getting DT checked comming out red, and after that filling this post up with alot of confusing stuff. You are the one who said either you or rgTS is lying. I belive it to be you, am I wrong, then we would by your logic kill him. Not quite correct. There is still a possibility that rg is insane or has unreliable checks.
Yes, this I have allready advocated earlier. But you said that unless BC is lying to you this isn't true...
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Yes, wait with your claim. And for the veterans in this games (or whoever it is that consider themself the top of the pops in here). If DrH claims by name, and he claims a role someone else allready have. Should there be counterclaim?
The reason why I am asking is that I fear that if DrH is scum, he might do a desperate nameclaim to either:
A) Save himself (best scenario for himself)
B) Draw out another blue before he dies.
To avoid anymore premature claims, please make a general consensus about this.
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On February 09 2012 21:05 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 21:02 Tunkeg wrote:
Yes, wait with your claim. And for the veterans in this games (or whoever it is that consider themself the top of the pops in here). If DrH claims by name, and he claims a role someone else allready have. Should there be counterclaim?
The reason why I am asking is that I fear that if DrH is scum, he might do a desperate nameclaim to either:
A) Save himself (best scenario for himself)
B) Draw out another blue before he dies.
To avoid anymore premature claims, please make a general consensus about this. I'll tell you after his claim. If it's the right name yes we need a counterclaim asap if there's one. If it's a wrong claim I don't want a counterclaim.
Not to offend you, but I was hoping someone with more authority would answer.
I think your answer here is the worst answer to the question, giving a counterclaimer potentially very little time to decide what is the right thing to do.
If DrH claims a name someone else have they know he is scum/third party. My take on it is that if DrH is doing this and he aren't going to the gallows the one actually having the role should counterclaim and see to it that it happends. But I do see the downside to this, another blue getting drawn out. Thats why I want the town to reach a consensus about this, so that we can avoid more suboptimal townplay.
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On February 09 2012 21:26 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 21:22 Tunkeg wrote:On February 09 2012 21:05 Toadesstern wrote:On February 09 2012 21:02 Tunkeg wrote:
Yes, wait with your claim. And for the veterans in this games (or whoever it is that consider themself the top of the pops in here). If DrH claims by name, and he claims a role someone else allready have. Should there be counterclaim?
The reason why I am asking is that I fear that if DrH is scum, he might do a desperate nameclaim to either:
A) Save himself (best scenario for himself)
B) Draw out another blue before he dies.
To avoid anymore premature claims, please make a general consensus about this. I'll tell you after his claim. If it's the right name yes we need a counterclaim asap if there's one. If it's a wrong claim I don't want a counterclaim. Not to offend you, but I was hoping someone with more authority would answer. I think your answer here is the worst answer to the question, giving a counterclaimer potentially very little time to decide what is the right thing to do. If DrH claims a name someone else have they know he is scum/third party. My take on it is that if DrH is doing this and he aren't going to the gallows the one actually having the role should counterclaim and see to it that it happends. But I do see the downside to this, another blue getting drawn out. Thats why I want the town to reach a consensus about this, so that we can avoid more suboptimal townplay. if he's telling me a wrong name I might want to lynch him outright, so no need to get another blue in the open and get himself killed because he's counterclaiming. If he's picking the right name we need a counterclaim if there's one available and it's not a bad move to make for that role.
OK, thank you for clearing that up.
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On February 10 2012 00:08 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 23:56 Palmar wrote:On February 09 2012 23:55 Forumite wrote:
So confused, we have two strong reads on 3rd Party, why don´t we take them out now and be done with it? There are Town vigilantes who can shoot scum in the night, but won´t have an effect on Batman or Catwoman. The logical thing would be to lynch Radfield now, and shoot Sheth.
For now:
##Unvote DoctorHelvetica I already explained that town vigis can be blocked, and the mafia can protect sheth. So? Doublestack, counting everyone who claimed they got hit yesterday, there should be lots of vigis. Scum has a medic and a veteran, so unless Sheth is Rashagul (or something), he´ll die if two vigis shoot him. If you are so confident in your read on Radfield, then we should kill him instead.
If Radfield is indeed Batman we should do no such thing as killing him. If Palmar for once is telling us the truth and in fact is Joker, he will be dead soon anyways, and we have a Batman that is completely on our side. Who would post his DT checks every day for town cred.
If Palmer is telling the truth we just got ourself a huge advantage as town!
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On February 10 2012 00:18 Toadesstern wrote:
Batman has no reason to shoot palmar tonight. Palmar claimed joker that got Kills.
Batman has no problem at all leaving a joker alive that is activly hunting and shooting at hugo himself. That's the best thing that could happen to batman and once hugo died he'll just use a single night action to kill Palmar.
Easy win for Batman.
It most certantly is not!
Maybe leaving Joker alive for a while. But he should not shoot at scum, he should now DT and claim his checks every day. To help town eliminate scum. And if he at anytime feel like town might win he can take out Joker. But Batman should play protown as soon as he knows who Joker is (maybe he need to check him himself tongiht?).
But I see no harm in Batman just shoting Joker straight up, then we know he is on our side, and he can claim his checks every day without fearing that town might do a crazy hit night and win by lynching last scum during the day before he have offed Joker.
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On February 10 2012 00:22 Jayjay54 wrote:
A lot of drama going on here.
Here are my thougths:
Toad / Doc:
You guys sure love to talk a lot. It’s stupid. I know the codeword, I know who you are Toad. And I am sure that if I can deduct it, others can to. Can’t believe you let yourself fish like that. Please stop talking about it.
That being said, you guys are 96% certified town right now to me, as it all checks out perfectly. Sorry for accusing you earlier doc <3
Which leaves:
rgTheWurz: Man you are a hell of a liar. I don’t think there’s another miller out there. What the fuck? I would lynch him. But this play makes no sense from a scum perspective either.
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Palmar: You think that rad is batman because he claimed to be shot. But you say yourself that you can’t kill vets. Maybe he is scum as al guhl. Possible?
Radfield: I for now choose think that you are a real DT. There was a case on Sheth earlier. So I guess town is fine lynching him. If you falseclaimed, you’re done to me.
##vote: Liquid` Sheth
After the game ends please give me the codeword, I am seriously getting pissed off by searching for it. KTHXBYE!
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On February 10 2012 01:30 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2012 01:28 rgTheSchworz wrote:
we're lynching a blue powerrole with Schworz tomorrow.
And why you want to lynch a blue?
You're supposed to lynch scum goddamnit we're lynching a blue powerrole if there's another clayface out there and that guy is not willing to counterclaim. If there's noone else being clayface than you're not a blue powerrole. @ tunkeg: I looked as well and wasn't able to find it either lol. I want to know that as well I have no idea what he's talking about.
Either that or you are just mocking my stupidity ^^
I can't wait for this game to end, so I can understand what the fuck really went down. THAT will certantly be intersting.
And now for something completely different:
DrH: I now belive you as his claim haven't been contested.
Toad: I am so very confused by him I don't know what to belive.
rgTS: Is he DT, is he scum, is he third party. Well, hard to know.
I wanted a lynch into this group today (earlier). Maybe all of them is lying, maybe no one (some sanity on rgTS, or some strange thing that Clayface appear to be something else when checked). Earlier I wanted a lynch on DrH, now I don't
Radfield: Claimed to be DT, and that he checked Sheth. I don't know what to believe here.
Palmar: Claims now that he is Joker. He have done so many strange things that I could never be sure on him either.
Sheth: Haven't shown his face in here since he somehow escaped day 1 lynch. He is at best not contributing.
So I will vote Sheth, then we might know more about Radfields claim as well.
#Vote Liquid`Sheth
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I know I am slow but I finally understand why Toad and DrH "knows" about eachother. I should have taken it sooner. And I also understand why you are suspicious of rgTS after this. But as I have said before there is a chance that scumteam have got all the role pm's and one of you are fooling the other. But seing that no one else have claimed Clayface and none have for vet either besides DrH, I am inclined to believe in you (for now at least). Today it do looks like it will be Sheth that gets the bullet. I really hope that Radfield is right though, and as I said before, this lynch will at worst (should at least) give the town proof about Radfields claim. At best Sheth is scum and then we should be in good shape. If this happends expect scum to do revenge attack on Radfield, or perhaps a RB on him.
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So there is a lot of missing people here now:
Hiro - you promissed a case on me first thing today. You should bring it. At least then you would have something in your filter.
This song is for you:
+ Show Spoiler +
Adam- you have been very silent this game my ozzy friend. You got the skills to be a major factor in this game, unless you are scum that is.
Now do as the star in this classic and come when I whistle for you:
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OpZ - You have only posted alot of jibbar jabber all game long, and you probably think no one gets you. Well I get you, I'll have your back. Just cry it out. Now please start posting anything other then all this fishy stuff you've been posting.
This gitar-solo should snap you out of your dreamworld:
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On February 10 2012 08:43 Adam4167 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2012 07:46 Tunkeg wrote:Adam- you have been very silent this game my ozzy friend. You got the skills to be a major factor in this game, unless you are scum that is. Now do as the star in this classic and come when I whistle for you: + Show Spoiler + You know calling an Australian 'skippy' is derogatory, right..I read the thread from 7:30KST - ~23:00KST every day. I am actively lurking this game because it feels like there's enough bullshit going on without me putting my 2 cents in every page. Also I'm slightly disenfranchised with this game, since we started playing the 'claim' game, a majority of the behavioral analysis has come out of the equation. With all the claims and nonsense going on, the logical course of action from here is to hang sheth, then rG. For what its worth, I know exactly what role Toad is, what his special power was and why it was that way. Hence why I'm far more inclined to believe him and DocH, unless a counterclaim was to come forward. ##Vote Sheth
No, I didn't know that. I know now though, I apologize. Was just trying to troll around abit while calling you guys out.
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Some of you guys need to shut up allready. And especially you JayJay, are you scum or just really stupid? Fishing for blues and outing blues like you do.
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On February 11 2012 22:11 Tunkeg wrote:
Some of you guys need to shut up allready. And especially you JayJay, are you scum or just really stupid? Fishing for blues and outing blues like you do.
Some breadcrumbs are obviously meant for just some people to understand, and if by some chance others catch on to it they should keep their fucking mouths shut. Those who have breadcrumbed will come forth with them eventually, no need for people to be clever and explaining breadcrumbs to everyone...
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On February 11 2012 22:24 Jayjay54 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 22:11 Tunkeg wrote:
Some of you guys need to shut up allready. And especially you JayJay, are you scum or just really stupid? Fishing for blues and outing blues like you do.
eeeexcuse me? If you look through my filter you'll find like 5 posts telling toad and docH to shutthe hell up talking. You'll also find some posts where I deflect other bluehunting (layabout) by saying that this is bound to be kept secret. I just cleared everything up (e.g. why I know that this is legit) when the Doc posted that toad is joker. And I 100% agree that the joker claim is unnecessary as fuck. If you don't follow the thread, don't call others stupid.
I follow the thread, and I see you constantly talking about blues, and breadcrumbs, just cut it the fuck out. PLEAAASE? It is so fucking anti-town that it is beyond me. What good is it to speculate about this? This will be the last I say about this, if you don't get it, fine.
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On February 11 2012 10:03 wherebugsgo wrote:
Actually, those same questions to layabout, Toad, and Tunkeg as well. I wanna see what y'all got. Who's the best fake sandro?
On February 11 2012 10:02 wherebugsgo wrote:
Hmmm
Adam:
You wanna role-play? You be my sandro and I'll be your WBG.
Tell me what you think of Kurumi, Radfield, RG, Palmar, and VE.
What I'm not understanding is why the Sheth lynch has no opposition. Is it your opinion that Sheth is scum and getting bussed, or do you think he's just bad and no one wants to associate themselves with him?
What do you think about the timing of Radfield's hit claim with Palmar's shot claim?
At this point, if you could not lynch Sheth who would you lynch?
Kurami
Kurami's posting leads me to think that he is either Catwoman or scum. But I think it is most likely Catwoman. His posts on rgTS being vet or PoisonIvy makes me belive he hit rgTS this night. Who would hit rgTS (claimed TwoFace) ---> CW. He have also fished for Penguin in his posts. He have lots of oneliners in his filters.
I have also read something in his filter, that I will for now keep to myself. Something I think will reveal him later if he do a certain action.
Radfield
Radfield's filter isn't all that big. I just skimmed through it now. I belive his DT Sheth claim should make him pretty townie, and won't look more into him
rgTheSchworz
He have lied and claimed and retracted his claim, and given us a DT read on DrH that he later retracted. He is full of shit. But I am not sure if he is full of shit as scum. Or if he is full of shit as town (with a reason behind it). His play is very confusing though.
Palmar
He have played the most confusing game I have ever seen here. I thought BM was confusing, well Palmar is the king of confusion it looks like. He have claimed and retracted numerous times. He also claims he have never claimed and never lied, which only confuse me even more. Is Palmar scum, third party, normal town or town powerrole? Hard to say at this point. This alone worries me though, and I wouldn't mind if someone put a bullet in him tonight.
VisceraEyes
He have been on Sheths case forever. And I don't think scum would bus this early (somewhat because of the tips you gave regarding my bus theory post game in Student Mafia, where you said that you wouldn't consider bussing from the get go a good scum strategy).
There you have my view on these 5. Haven't been able to dive in deep on anyone of them though, so there might be stuff I missinterpret or have just overlooked.
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On February 11 2012 22:42 Jayjay54 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 22:32 Tunkeg wrote:On February 11 2012 22:24 Jayjay54 wrote:On February 11 2012 22:11 Tunkeg wrote:
Some of you guys need to shut up allready. And especially you JayJay, are you scum or just really stupid? Fishing for blues and outing blues like you do.
eeeexcuse me? If you look through my filter you'll find like 5 posts telling toad and docH to shutthe hell up talking. You'll also find some posts where I deflect other bluehunting (layabout) by saying that this is bound to be kept secret. I just cleared everything up (e.g. why I know that this is legit) when the Doc posted that toad is joker. And I 100% agree that the joker claim is unnecessary as fuck. If you don't follow the thread, don't call others stupid. I follow the thread, and I see you constantly talking about blues, and breadcrumbs, just cut it the fuck out. PLEAAASE? It is so fucking anti-town that it is beyond me. What good is it to speculate about this? This will be the last I say about this, if you don't get it, fine. I don't want to get mad here. And this is also my last post on this topic: Things I did: a) confirm that Doc is blue and not red to make sure everyone gets that rGs dt check is wrong (which it was) b) saying multiple times that they talk to much and stop hinting who toad really is. c) shutting down any questions about the true identites. Things I did not: a) Breadcrumbing. Please show me a post where I hint anything, please. b) Bluefishing. It makes zeeeero sense to bluefish when I already knew the role. Which I did. So if I was scum, they'd knew anyways. My play wasn't anti town whatsoever, I didn't bluefish and I vertainly didn't give away any blue information which weren' on the table already. Why don't you call out Toad and Doc for talking, why me? You looking for a target to bite into? Most players already knew who Toad was after they mentioned a "codeword" and the post which had the codeword anyways. It is not my fault that you didn't notice. Jayjay out.
I won't show you what I mean, because that will just focus more on what you did, and if you are indeed town there is a chance scum haven't picked up on it.
Lets just agree to not talk about peoples breadcrumbs and I will happily just ignore you.
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On February 11 2012 23:12 Kurumi wrote:
Opz, have You found Penguin yet?
Wouldn't you like to know, seing that you are Catwomen.
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I want to lynch Evantrees today.
Reason 1: Votes
He was one of the ones who hammered through the CC lynch. He voted him late and for apparantly no good reason. Only BM and WBG were later voting for him than.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=309352¤tpage=4#73
He was also the last person voting for Sheth, and it seems like a vote to save face:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=309352¤tpage=6#120
His reasons for voting have been non-existent, these are his 3 "vote" posts:
+ Show Spoiler +On February 08 2012 12:02 evantrees wrote:
Bah good enough.
##Vote Cyber_Cheese
Proper voting format is
##vote name
BC do you care if there are : in there?
On February 09 2012 18:52 evantrees wrote:48 hour day cycle, Day ends at 11pm est Thursday. huh, Isn't it thursday morning now?Tunkeg brought up something that bugs me. I ask BC "Are there roles roles that have a mechanic that is not known to the player possessing that role?" and he says that is not the case. So what about millers?I really like the idea behind jackals role. I have no problem voting for someone based on getting utter nonsense from them. Lets hear something Schworz, until them. ##Vote rgTheSchworzAlso Palmer and Radfield are still alive interesting. ninja'd + Show Spoiler +On February 09 2012 18:42 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 18:42 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On February 09 2012 18:38 Palmar wrote:
What shit? Did you not claim to be Two-Face and lie about being masoned with Toadesstern? I do not recall anything like that. On February 09 2012 02:19 Palmar wrote:
I claim two-face too, you see, the role is shared between two people who are basically masons. That's why I told Toad he was dumb. I threw some suspicion on him day 1 without ever intending to lynch him (we're confirmed town to each other, obviously). Also I told him not to claim, but he refused to listen to that.
He's the "good" part (DT) and I'm the "bad" part (vigilante)
So yeah, I can confirm Toad's claim. On February 09 2012 05:17 Palmar wrote:
we're masoned (ie: we know each other's alignment, confirmed by host). On February 11 2012 10:24 evantrees wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 10:17 wherebugsgo wrote:
Also why is BM not spamming the thread? Palmer is doing the job for him. I am hoping he flips scum so might as well clean up the vote tally list a bit. ##unvote rgtheschworz
##Vote Liquid'Sheth
Reason 2: Filter of nothingness
His filter have no hard stands on anything. Basicly just fluff and one post where he says chaoser is scum, without any reasoning. Nothing that will give him any attention, nothing that will hold him accountable for anything:
On February 10 2012 08:38 evantrees wrote:Kurumi I like you for some damned reason. Show nested quote +On February 10 2012 08:21 Liquid`Sheth wrote:On February 10 2012 08:10 Kurumi wrote:
Also Viscera, WBG is voting me because I accussed him of being scum day 1 and actually was right, but Sheth made puppy eyes and I doubted my ability to play this game.
Fuck puppy eyes Can't wait for my flip. I can't even argue my way out of this because of the sheer mass of people just saying kill me. I'm collecting what reads I have and will submit them right before I die. Unless BC randomly cut the day length in half I'm pretty sure you have more than 24 hours still, why wait to post them, to make sure they are non missed just repost them all before the lynch. Which players do you think are hurting town the most? Too much spam! Which players do you think are pushing a scum agenda? chaoser, he was anyways. Which players do you think are scum? chaoser
In this crazy game of spam and mad claims and speculations I find posters like Evantrees the most scummy.
Vote ##Evantrees
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So you guys just speculate and speculate. Who do you want to lynch and why?
Gief some cases!
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