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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 07 2012 17:53 GMT
#559
On February 08 2012 02:43 Bill Murray wrote:
we have like 5 kp as a town per round minimum
batman potentially will help us out, too

wat?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 07 2012 18:02 GMT
#565
On February 08 2012 02:53 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 02:43 Bill Murray wrote:
we have like 5 kp as a town per round minimum
batman potentially will help us out, too

wat?

I am going to repeat myself because of massive amounts of posts that got us to page 29: wat?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 07 2012 18:03 GMT
#568
On February 08 2012 03:01 Palmar wrote:
DrH is not scum, don't be an idiot

stop thinking the way I do ALL THE TIME. What was the reason I thought you're mafia again? :p
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 07 2012 18:06 GMT
#569
On February 08 2012 03:03 Katina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 02:29 chaoser wrote:
I've read up to page 17. This game makes me not want to play mafia anymore....

First three pages after start of the game were a big circlejerk and then the next three are just random accusations and shitty logic...I should have listened to GM about playing in games with lots of newbies...

I hate all of you

/end rant

##vote rgTheSchworz

Read some of his shit...

"I feel Day 1 someone always gets lynched for beingcarelessandthat someone is almost always a townie.So, it doesn't do any harm at all to ramp the pressure now instead of later in the day when we will be hard-pressed for time and are likely to make hasty decisions."


"I personally doubt that he's a blue trying to hide by claiming green, so scum know his role already. Terribad for us."


"You, sir are Scum" and then..."And me be damned if this is not a pressurevote or a normal vote in any way: ##Vote: -_-Quails"


I will post a bigger post after getting to the end

I agree with the fact that so far everything has just been a "big circlejerk" and the lack of logic behind the claims are kinda amusing. It looks like people are just accusing for the sake of posting in hopes they don't get killed.
Palmar seems to be making the most sense so far out of anyone in the game. He's actually reading into the posts and what everyone is saying.

Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 21:43 Palmar wrote:
Warning: this is written as I read, so expect it to be a bit confusing.

---------------

On February 06 2012 15:39 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
On February 06 2012 15:35 Bill Murray wrote:
I disagree with you. Sheth was questioning the validity of claiming there. It truly is weak play. It's like leaving a zealot on the wrong side of the map, out of the equation, when you're going into battle.

However, there is another side to WIFOM, but are both glasses poisoned?



So, Bill --

Zealots on the wrong side of the map are good.

They are like little scouting strong pillars of Zerg death.

Zealots are never on the wrong side of the map.

Does this mean you are calling yourself a zealot? And would you be up for poisoning yourself? Considering if you don't drink from either of the glasses you would probably die of thirst. In the case that either way you die, would you drink both glasses to have a quicker death? Or would you only drink one and not overdose on the poison in hopes you may be saved? I think these bring up valid questions. And I hope you will feel my play isn't weak after this.


This exchange is 100% bullshit. I remember sheth bullshitting quite hard when he was mafia last time, being a lot more reserved whenever I've played with him as town. Maybe we should lynch him.

Regarding the rgthewhatever, I don't think he's mafia. His initial post is way too straightforward, to the point and assertive for him to be scum in my opinion. i think any train on him would be a terrible idea. He's bringing in the idea of a random voting stage, where you pick up something tiny, and run with it to start discussion. It's a terrible idea and it's dumb. But it's very unlikely it makes him scum automatically like some of you are trying to imply.

I'll show you an example of a weak opening post:

On February 06 2012 18:17 Toadesstern wrote:
here I am. Should have waited 5 minutes longer yesterday and I could have instavoted wbg to begin this game
At least I got that little smiley to annoy him.

On a more serious note: I don't like people talking about claims d1. That's kenpachi (nothing new there, noone likes Kenpachi...) and Cyber_Cheese right now I think. Actually especially Cyber_Cheese. Why do you think we need to talk about blues so early on, make them / one claim early on to get another "blue" (batman) buffed although we don't know what he's up to yet.
Are you trying to get some information and read into what people are saying about that topic to figure out if they're blue or not while talking about that topic? Because that's what I thought right now.


This says nothing about Toadesstern's alignment. It doesn't make him scum, but i think rgTS's posts at least look like he came into the thread trying to achieve something. This doesn't.

Tunkeg's probably town. DrH has only posted useless stuff so far, no idea what he is.

On February 06 2012 19:30 ico wrote:
irst, Kenpachi claiming town on day 1 is bad play, no matter his actual role.
If he indeed does this every game, he deserves to be policy lynched until he stops doing so.


Best post in the thread.

Bill Murray is being wrong/useless a lot. No idea what to make of it.

Adam's reasoning for voting jaybrundage is rock solid and I like it.

On February 06 2012 21:45 Adam4167 wrote:
Jaybrundage, I know you haven't even posted yet, but we've never been the same team. Don't see why this game would be any different. Have my vote!

##Vote: jaybrundage


Kurumi is hilarious as usual, keeping him around is good for entertainment value.

OpZ is playing? I hadn't noticed. Maybe we should just hang him. In addition, a wild Kita appeared, he looks less scummy though. Also, VisceraEyes is seriously weak a this point.

layabout could be town.

On February 07 2012 06:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
First of all

##Unvote: kitaman27

Now for the good stuff.

VisceraEyes Lynch List of Accuracy

layabout - For criticizing others play as being non-contributory, yet contributes nothing of substance himself. Any idea who he thinks is scum? Me either.
Katina - Again, criticizing others for not contributing, but not contributing. Masquerading doesn't count guys - you actually have to do something.
kitaman27 - Kita appears to be doing something akin to scumhunting, and because he's a veteran, I'm willing to wait on his lynch - however, I think he's scum because he appealed to Forumite's suspicion of me to try and get a bandwagon started, but never even really voted for me…just stinks and I don't like it. But again, Kita is my weakest read at this point and I wouldn't be butthurt if we didn't lynch him today.

Also, Palmar is mistaken - lynching me is totally NOT always a net-gain for town. He's saying this because he's a prick.

So, there you have it.

##Vote: layabout



Disagree on all accounts. All the reads are null or town to me in this post, and also, I am correct.

On February 07 2012 10:43 Radfield wrote:
Palmar: Toad, VE, Kitaman, what are your thoughts on them.


Why the fuck do you want to talk to me? I'm trolling at this point.

I'm just gonna hit post and then collect what's important at this point.





Palmar is being very direct with his opinions. I think Dr. H is town but he doesn't give off the same vibe of having the town's best interesting in mind that Palmar does. Toad's post here doesn't really contribute much, it looks pretty much like rambling more or less. I don't think he's accomplishing anything for any of the sides. Not sure what his goal is for this game, if he even has one and I find that troubling. Until Sheth stops rambling there should be way more than a few votes on him.

My goal is vote the right people and only push people if none of the vets does a good job because people are more likely going to listen to them. Palmar is pushing the right buttons right now so I don't need to make my own cases. Knowing who I think might end up being mafia and who's probably town should be enough for you guys to figure out if I'm town or not.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 07 2012 18:12 GMT
#581
On February 08 2012 03:08 Bill Murray wrote:
toad... 7 vigs... 2 can be medics.... lets do the math lol


the point I am 'wating' about is the bolded part.

5 "KP" or whatever you want to call townvig-shots PER CYCLE? As far as I know TL only plays with 1-shot vigs but you make it look like we got vigs with more than 1 shot. Why do you think so?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 07 2012 18:15 GMT
#587
On February 08 2012 03:09 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 02:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
On February 08 2012 02:53 Bill Murray wrote:
has anyone talked about the gay phone network, yet?


wtf is this shit?

there is a gigantic mason network im a part of
that is why i'm claiming a power role
i know a confirmed town, as well


I know a confirmed town, too ❤
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 07 2012 18:33 GMT
#602
noone asking about the confirmed townie I know?
So everyone already knew I was referring to a guy called Toadesstern? I think I know who's the confirmed townie BM knows!
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 07 2012 18:51 GMT
#610
sheth you're pretty wishy washy this game imo. More than you're usually. Maybe that's because of the third party and you don't know what to talk about (hell, first game with 3rd parties for me as well) But don't worry, there's a bunch of people voting CC and since he's still my #1 I'm probably going to unvote you and vote him instead.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 07 2012 19:08 GMT
#622
On February 08 2012 03:56 risk.nuke wrote:
##Vote Toadesstern
Behold Sir. Spam-alot from the kingdom of no-content. I got scumvibes from him earlier as I was reading the thread. Nothing in his filter tells me otherwise. I like him more then other lynch-candidates.
Meta: I've seen him under suspicion before and he acted calm and reserved, nothing like this.

I reserve the right to change my mind at any time.

Why are you lying? I'm getting emotional when accused to be mafia and I'm actually town ALL THE TIME. Like big time.
Please give me an example of me acting calm and reserved. Yes I don't care a lot until I think it's urgent because imo it's obvious I'm town when I'm town (= when I am town I think it should be obvious that I am town) and maybe that's what you're referring to.
Basicly here's what you do to figure me out: If there's a bunch of people, preferable people like Supersoft/wbg/rad, saying I am mafia than I have to be town. If there's not a single on in the thread saying I'm mafia I actually am mafia because I'm cautious with what I'm posting. Got that feeling right now?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 07 2012 19:13 GMT
#625
On February 08 2012 04:11 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 03:51 Toadesstern wrote:
sheth you're pretty wishy washy this game imo. More than you're usually. Maybe that's because of the third party and you don't know what to talk about (hell, first game with 3rd parties for me as well) But don't worry, there's a bunch of people voting CC and since he's still my #1 I'm probably going to unvote you and vote him instead.

this sounds like toadesstern is consoling his scumbuddy he has a vote on

adam4147
toadesstern
sheth
cybercheese
kenpachi
jackal

^ list of scum

oh gosh it's L all over again
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 07 2012 19:15 GMT
#629
On February 08 2012 04:14 Jayjay54 wrote:
also, as you are claiming a power role, aren't you afraid of our precious catwoman?

"With her honed skills she is able to eliminate one player a night regardless of protections".

That doesn't look smart to me.

he's what I thought VE was last game. Or he's stupid. Noone knows
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 07 2012 19:23 GMT
#636
On February 08 2012 04:18 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 04:15 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 08 2012 04:14 Jayjay54 wrote:
also, as you are claiming a power role, aren't you afraid of our precious catwoman?

"With her honed skills she is able to eliminate one player a night regardless of protections".

That doesn't look smart to me.

he's what I thought VE was last game. Or he's stupid. Noone knows


difference is that there is a third party in the game with the sole purpose to kill blue power roles regardless of protection. VE's move was stupid. BM's move is just plain out dumb.

and I still want to hear from him and palmar why my case on Doc is bad. Seriously.
I love discussions about scum candidates, they are always town favoured (unlike third party discussions). => Just saying "you are stupid" is not pro town.


Yeah, when I said "he's what I thought VE was in L or stupid" I was not saying either ... or. Could be both at the same time :p
I could see him think it's a good move as what I think he is. And it's not about what VE actually was in L but about what I thought he's doing.

About the doc case. I think it's wrong as well. So far he's giving me some vibes that make me think of p4n. He's pushing activly, not good imo but he is. I doubt he would do what he's doing as a mafia. Yeah the talk about third party isn't nice but I don't care so much about it early on to say we should lynch him. I'm leaning town on doc because of his attitude as well.
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 07 2012 19:27 GMT
#639
Oh and BM sry for calling it stupid as well. I'm getting carried away with all those insults. So if you really got it as an insult I'm sorry about that and will stop it.
I just don't know if I'm believing a word you say so rephrase "stupid" with "weird" or "bullshit" (bullshit in like you're making it up).

Will try to keep the insults on wbg only from now on.
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 07 2012 19:34 GMT
#643
On February 08 2012 04:30 hiro protagonist wrote:
Everyone should ignore Bill until he starts making sense. Anyone doing otherwise at this time is very bad for town atmosphere.


hey there hiro. Where have you been all day?
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 07 2012 20:09 GMT
#653
did a little voting list as we don't have some standings in there. Yeah I know posting lists, especially voting lists is something people consider to be scummy because it's easy for scum to do but I really had issues to keep up with the votes and who has how many votes (I did that because rgTheSchworz said he's going to claim and wanted to know if he really has to) and it took me ages to get the standing. So I don't care what you think about it but I guess I'm not the only one having problems with that so I might as well just post it before someone else has to do the same work:
+ Show Spoiler [Click me!] +

Kenpachi (0): rgtTheSchworz, Bill Murray (missed the ## when unvoting)

rgTheSchworz (5): ]Cyber_Cheese, Kenpachi, Forumite, -_-Quailis, wherebugsgo, DoctorHelvetica, Chaoser

Jaybrundage (0/1): Adam4167, Jayjay54 (wrong unvote)

Tunkeg (0): DoctorHelvetica,

Slardar (0): Kurumi,

Visveraeyes (0): DoctorHelvetica, Tobberoth,

Kitaman27 (0): Visceraeyes,

-_-Quails (1): rgTheSchworz,

layabout (1): Visveraeyes, Tunkeg

Cyber_Cheese (6): layabout, Toadesstern, DoctorHelvetica, Slardar, Kurumi, ico

Toadesstern (1): wherebugsgo, risk.nuke,

Liquid'Sheth (4):
Katina, "Palmar" (wrong voting pattern), forumite, "Toadesstern" (forgot to unvote first), Visceraeyes,

Adam4167 (1): Bill Murray,

DoctorHelvetica (1): JayJay54,

Chaoser (1):
Tobberoth,

Ico (0/1): Adam4167 (did not unvoteJaybrundage),
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 07 2012 20:12 GMT
#656
On February 08 2012 04:34 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 04:30 hiro protagonist wrote:
Everyone should ignore Bill until he starts making sense. Anyone doing otherwise at this time is very bad for town atmosphere.


hey there hiro. Where have you been all day?


Also repeating myself to get an answer.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 07 2012 20:19 GMT
#659
On February 08 2012 05:17 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Not Random anymore.
I sense that I am about to be lynched, if not today maybe tomorrow.
Also the atmosphere is turnin mafia-favored rapidly. Votes flying left and right, dispersed votes makin it easy for scum to lynch town today.
Due to that, I am claiming:
I am a Detective
.Unless people insist that I claim my name, I won't do it due to obvious reasons :
I may or may not be Catwoman's target.
I have not had the chance to investigate yet.
I will probably be roleblocked.untill we can find the roleblocker.

you will probably be killed by catwoman because you claimed DT. The only reason not to kill you instantly as catwoman is the wifom you created because he might think that a DT is not going to claim DT.
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 07 2012 20:23 GMT
#662
Is it allowed to claim rolenames other than Batman / Catwoman? That hasn't been answered yet
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 07 2012 20:40 GMT
#671
On February 08 2012 05:39 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 05:28 Palmar wrote:
On February 08 2012 05:25 rgTheSchworz wrote:
It's a normal game, I don't know why it wouldn't.


Don't ever do anything like that again.

We should probably hang you to punish bad play

YOU HAVE LIKE 6 VOTES OR SOMETHING, THAT'S FUCKING NOTHING.

I'm done with this, can't deal with more stupidity.

if we lynched people for bad play, you wouldnt make it to night one

we already did that last game. You don't have to rob it into his face :p
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 07 2012 22:52 GMT
#696
I don't see a problem with anyone on CC except for layabout but if CC flips red laya is okayish.
I do see problems with some people voting sheth, mainly hiro and BM.

I'd like to get people on CC instead of sheth. Yes I think sheth is a good lynch but with the most recent posts I really think CC is a far better lynch.
Just read his filter and give me a single reason you could think he's town. Look at what he's posting the last couple of hours: Nothing.
That's right. He was first in votes for most time I think. Yeah it was a close one but still why isn't he saying a word? Wouldn't a townie try to defend himself or try to scumhunt to prove he's a townie?
A townie would not leave this without a comment, a townie would activly try to get someone lynched who's not a 100% mislynch because if he knew that he's a townie he'd know that it's going to be a mislynch as well.

I won't say that sheth is a bad lynch because it's not but he's one of those 3 to 4 people I think will end up being a coinflip and I had a scumread on sheth in L d1 as well and ended up being wrong.
I actually think lynching sheth is good as well. I'm just saying lynching CC is way better. That guy is activly pushing a blue to claim, he is not helping, not even mentioning his reads or whatever and he's bound to flip mafia or third party imo.
He did a lot d1.1 that is VERY easy to do as mafia. It mainly was some talk about the setup and what we should do with the joker. That's all good and fine but ever since he completly stopped posting somethign of content. It's like he's sitting back watching the thread, even when people are casting votes on him. That's not a good sign at all.
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