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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 11 2012 11:57 GMT
#2137
DocH is clayface. Batman can't penetrate Clayface = I am safe for tonight.
Also I'd be willing to help batman if he's not shooting Clayface. I never asked about this, idk if it takes 2 hits for batman to kill Clayface or if he's just not able to kill Clayface at all. If he wants to get to me he has to get through Clayface first.
I don't want townies to get killed so let's kill hugo first kk?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 11 2012 11:59 GMT
#2139
On February 11 2012 20:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Batman can't claim.

But I'm invulnerable to third party, Joker is immune to everything. The idea is that I shapeshift into Joker. If Batman hits me he will realize I'm not the real joker and his hit won't go through. I don't think Batman is informed of this, there might be more roles that have temporary or permanent protections against third party as well.

As long as I am alive, Joker cannot die to ANYTHING sans lynch. He is invincible. However, if the real Joker is killed I no longer shapeshift and thus can not survive a Batman hit unless I still have my second night life. I hope that makes sense. I also return "Joker" to all DT checks as long as I'm shape shifted. Things are really tricky for Batman in this game, I'm not sure I love the balance.


LOL I did not know that about the DT. That's another important piece of the puzzle. Schworz why are you accusing joker to be mafia?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 11 2012 12:01 GMT
#2144
just btw: don't get yourself modkilled bro. I want to stay immortal please.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 11 2012 12:02 GMT
#2147
On February 11 2012 21:01 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 20:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Batman can't claim.


He can't claim batman, but he can claim all other stuff. again, a DT claim would result in RB => radfield is not third imo

Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 20:57 Toadesstern wrote:
DocH is clayface. Batman can't penetrate Clayface = I am safe for tonight.
Also I'd be willing to help batman if he's not shooting Clayface. I never asked about this, idk if it takes 2 hits for batman to kill Clayface or if he's just not able to kill Clayface at all. If he wants to get to me he has to get through Clayface first.
I don't want townies to get killed so let's kill hugo first kk?


palmar, listen to this man.

also, I would have won the bet :D


well just think about my situation. What should I have said instead? "Yeah you'd probably win the bet" ? :p
Still I'm not going to die tonight. I want DocH to survive this night and I'm going to kill Hugo ezpz.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 11 2012 12:03 GMT
#2150
On February 11 2012 21:02 Kurumi wrote:
Joker doesn't hire people by the way.
Toad, I know what You're doing.


don't tell palmar I'm Two-Face in reality. That would totally ruin everything!
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 11 2012 12:05 GMT
#2156
On February 11 2012 21:05 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 21:02 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 11 2012 21:01 Jayjay54 wrote:
On February 11 2012 20:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Batman can't claim.


He can't claim batman, but he can claim all other stuff. again, a DT claim would result in RB => radfield is not third imo

On February 11 2012 20:57 Toadesstern wrote:
DocH is clayface. Batman can't penetrate Clayface = I am safe for tonight.
Also I'd be willing to help batman if he's not shooting Clayface. I never asked about this, idk if it takes 2 hits for batman to kill Clayface or if he's just not able to kill Clayface at all. If he wants to get to me he has to get through Clayface first.
I don't want townies to get killed so let's kill hugo first kk?


palmar, listen to this man.

also, I would have won the bet :D


well just think about my situation. What should I have said instead? "Yeah you'd probably win the bet" ? :p
Still I'm not going to die tonight. I want DocH to survive this night and I'm going to kill Hugo ezpz.


i know i know, but you talked way tooo much, this was meant to be kept secret.

how are you killing hugo? ultimate joker skill?


It's a secretz. When I said "I am a VT from now on" I lied :3
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 11 2012 12:10 GMT
#2163
On February 11 2012 21:07 Adam4167 wrote:
What if they're both 3rd party and batman decided to shoot at catwoman.


could be.
Also we don't need to to talk more DocH. Kurumi clearly is town and you're behaving like Schworz n1.
Batman can't kill me tonight, that's fine. The only problem here is that mafia wants to see me dead as well because an immortal confirmed townie is pretty awesome. I'd say they're going to help badman tonight and will shoot you with all they got so that batman can kill me next night.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 11 2012 12:11 GMT
#2165
On February 11 2012 21:09 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 21:07 Adam4167 wrote:
What if they're both 3rd party and batman decided to shoot at catwoman.


i hate to repeat myself, but whatever.

you would not claim dt as third, because you'll get RBed by scum. you don't want that.


well with like 10 blue claimes on d1/n1/d2 I don't think he's that afraid of being RB'ed as batman, even if he claimes DT. So idk.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 11 2012 12:14 GMT
#2169
On February 11 2012 21:11 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 21:10 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 11 2012 21:07 Adam4167 wrote:
What if they're both 3rd party and batman decided to shoot at catwoman.


could be.
Also we don't need to to talk more DocH. Kurumi clearly is town and you're behaving like Schworz n1.
Batman can't kill me tonight, that's fine. The only problem here is that mafia wants to see me dead as well because an immortal confirmed townie is pretty awesome. I'd say they're going to help badman tonight and will shoot you with all they got so that batman can kill me next night.

Say You want mercy


why should I? Batman is going to shoot me tonight, will find out I can't be killed by his shots and that's about it. Batman has all the information he needs to know. He can't kill Clayface. He's not going to lay a finger on me as long as Clayface is still alive.
If DocH dies we're lynching Palmar. If both of us survive and I'm immortal for another night we're lynching someone like chaoser or whatever.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 11 2012 12:16 GMT
#2172
On February 11 2012 21:14 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 21:11 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 11 2012 21:09 Jayjay54 wrote:
On February 11 2012 21:07 Adam4167 wrote:
What if they're both 3rd party and batman decided to shoot at catwoman.


i hate to repeat myself, but whatever.

you would not claim dt as third, because you'll get RBed by scum. you don't want that.


well with like 10 blue claimes on d1/n1/d2 I don't think he's that afraid of being RB'ed as batman, even if he claimes DT. So idk.


if I was scum, I'd RB rad right now and I believe he will be. He is the only DT who claimed and he had already a correct red check.

Also, what is his motive to claim DT without having any votes on him.

No, I don't believe rad is third.

If that's what you believe to be true and Palmar got to be thirdparty and yeah it makes sense. I'm just not sure yet.
I'd say Mafia is going to RB me tonight because they can't afford losing Hugo.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 11 2012 12:16 GMT
#2174
On February 11 2012 21:15 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 21:14 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 11 2012 21:11 Kurumi wrote:
On February 11 2012 21:10 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 11 2012 21:07 Adam4167 wrote:
What if they're both 3rd party and batman decided to shoot at catwoman.


could be.
Also we don't need to to talk more DocH. Kurumi clearly is town and you're behaving like Schworz n1.
Batman can't kill me tonight, that's fine. The only problem here is that mafia wants to see me dead as well because an immortal confirmed townie is pretty awesome. I'd say they're going to help badman tonight and will shoot you with all they got so that batman can kill me next night.

Say You want mercy


why should I? Batman is going to shoot me tonight, will find out I can't be killed by his shots and that's about it. Batman has all the information he needs to know. He can't kill Clayface. He's not going to lay a finger on me as long as Clayface is still alive.
If DocH dies we're lynching Palmar. If both of us survive and I'm immortal for another night we're lynching someone like chaoser or whatever.

Say You want mercy.


don't tell me you're the Batman and Palmar is CW. Either way I don't see a reason to say so.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 11 2012 12:19 GMT
#2175
Also since to whoever is batman, Try and find hugo first. Do you really think I'd claim Two-Face as Joker (remember CW penetrates hits as well) if my immortality claim isn't true? I don't care what you're doing but two people looking for Hugo will fasten this up a little and if you end up shooting me that'll be only me searching Hugo for tonight...
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 11 2012 13:17 GMT
#2179
On February 11 2012 22:11 Palmar wrote:
we'll find out how immortal you are tomorrow toad. I think you're scum and faking it.


fine with me, as long as you shoot me and won't force us to lynch clayface I'm fine with helping you.
We can talk about killing me once Hugo is dead or you seriousy fear that we might win this outright (doubt that with 6 mafias alive). Also since I'm not sure if it's you, rad or Kurumi right now you shouldn't be to afraid that we're going to lynch batman to protect me.
We're not going to sacrifice a couple of blues just to maybe find Batman so that Joker is saved :p
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 11 2012 13:29 GMT
#2181
On February 11 2012 22:24 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 22:11 Tunkeg wrote:
Some of you guys need to shut up allready. And especially you JayJay, are you scum or just really stupid? Fishing for blues and outing blues like you do.



eeeexcuse me?

If you look through my filter you'll find like 5 posts telling toad and docH to shutthe hell up talking. You'll also find some posts where I deflect other bluehunting (layabout) by saying that this is bound to be kept secret.

I just cleared everything up (e.g. why I know that this is legit) when the Doc posted that toad is joker. And I 100% agree that the joker claim is unnecessary as fuck.

If you don't follow the thread, don't call others stupid.


I was shutting up all the time. DocH claimed I am joker and he was the guy openly claiming palmar was a liar after palmar claimed joker. If Palmar is batman he already knew I'm batman way before DocH told everyone.
And I am pretty sure Palmar knew I am joker before n1 deadline which again makes it more likely that he's not the badman. But maybe I misinterpreted something idk.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 11 2012 13:39 GMT
#2187
my list still stands:
Chaoser
Sheth <--- dead
forumite
risk.nuke
opz
layabout
hiro

Lynch these people unless you got a good damn reason not to.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 11 2012 13:50 GMT
#2195
On February 11 2012 22:45 Jayjay54 wrote:
toad:

hiro is still a good choice to me.

also, why is rG not on there. his answer for how his DT claim makes sense as town was this:

Show nested quote +
"Assuming he can be RB ed.
JayJay, I can be town:
The real 2-face,
OR poison Ivy,
Or a random Vet/VT.

Read the thread closely"


I don't think that's a valid explanation.


he knew my identity as well. I figure he might be a DT who checked me, did not believe what he saw and came to the conclusion that I have to lie as well as docH. Maybe he came to the conclusion that it's less dangerous to fake a DT check on docH on the offchances that I actually am what he found out about me. That way he only screwed a lesser PR and not the most imba thing in this game besides Batman.
I can ensure you that he got a DT-power. I however don't know what aligment he has yet.
Schworzs flip would be nice for information but I'd like to lynch scum first.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 11 2012 13:58 GMT
#2200
On February 11 2012 22:51 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 22:39 Toadesstern wrote:
my list still stands:
Chaoser
Sheth <--- dead
forumite
risk.nuke
opz
layabout
hiro

Lynch these people unless you got a good damn reason not to.

Thanks. I know the list is incorrect on at least one point, but still good to know the reads of another Townie. I have a strong Townread on precious few, and you and DocH are two of them.

Radfield, is he and Palmar scum, bussing Sheth, or is Radfield a DT who was rolechecked by Palmar during the night?


btw I still got a townread on Kita. That's like the one big difference in what Palmar and I think.
I never played with kita when he's mafia so idk but he looked pretty nice d1, trying to help and I never picked something scummy up on him. Palmar on the other hand thinks we need to lynch / shoot him asap. Then again, it's Palmar and I still think I'm one of the few people who knows what's going on in his mind.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 11 2012 13:59 GMT
#2201
On February 11 2012 22:57 risk.nuke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 22:46 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Im gonna look at WBG and Kita as they have nt been helpful this game.

Yeah I agree, they need to fakeclaim one or two times and cause massive chaos to the thread and further distract the town from lynch discussion. Then I might consider them as helpfull as you.

Both wbg and kita are town in my eyes. Actually not entirely sure on wbg, as been mention earlier he's legendary good at disguising himself as town when he is scum but I think he's legit. So yeah, those two are very likely town.


well I guess that makes wbg a " pretty much confirmed townie" and kita a "maybe mafia" for me.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 11 2012 14:02 GMT
#2203
On February 11 2012 22:59 Kurumi wrote:
Toad, I gave You a chance.

why do you want to look like batman?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 11 2012 14:12 GMT
#2207
On February 11 2012 23:04 Jayjay54 wrote:
@ toad: Still I don't see how he would not just faked the check on you...whatever. I still think the scum explanation is way better.

@tunkeg: I guess I know what you mean. Fair enough. Let's stop talking about it. However, if you look through my filter you'll see that I wasn't bluefishing and tried to keep joker safe...

@ rg: It's scumhunting not bluefishing. We don't stop calling people out because we are afraid that they might end up turning blue, we continue to hunt them if we think they are red.


idk, yeah the mafia one makes sense because I think they could have checked me n1 to see what's going on but I doubt that they would have told or forced him to fake a dt check. That's even more unlikely imo.

And Kurumi is trying to find out if I really am immortal.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
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