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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 10 2012 15:48 GMT
#1831
Ok I might have figured something out that might end up troublesome.

Here's the deal: I'm either giving some information to a vet that is not involved into this whole bullshit and at the same time not behaving stupid right now (by exclusion that leaves us with kita) OR I'm going to ask a bunch (idk, maybe 4?) yes or no questions directed at Schworz.
So whoever is here firsts gets to give me advice considering the Schworz issue because I'm having troubles there right now.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 10 2012 16:02 GMT
#1833
ok here you are. Answer me this one:

Did you really check DocH yesterday? I want an honest answer on this one. Just a yes or a no.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 10 2012 16:07 GMT
#1838
On February 11 2012 01:05 rgTheSchworz wrote:
How can I give you the answer without giving anyone else the answer?


you can give the answer to everyone I don't care but I need to know if you checked him yesterday. Just write yes or no in the thread and I hope for your safety that you're telling the truth.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 10 2012 16:11 GMT
#1842
On February 11 2012 01:09 rgTheSchworz wrote:
No.


ok you did not check him. I want you to tell us the name of the guy you checked. Not the result, not his role nothing but the name.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 10 2012 16:23 GMT
#1851
that's not exactly helping Schworz. I am a townie and I am not trying to find something out I am not supposed to know.
But Palmar tells me to shut up so I'll shut up for now. I'm up for lynching chaoser as well, he's the only one that made it to my "KILL IT WITH FIRE"-list while all 7 other people I think might end up flipping mafia are only on my "probably mafia"-list.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 10 2012 16:26 GMT
#1853
I'm pretty sure what jayjay and adam figured out is what I wanted them to think :3
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 10 2012 16:32 GMT
#1858
On February 11 2012 01:29 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 01:26 Toadesstern wrote:
I'm pretty sure what jayjay and adam figured out is what I wanted them to think :3


I'd bet on your role right now.


that's not allowed but even if it were I'd bet you don't know a thing :p
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 10 2012 16:49 GMT
#1876
On February 11 2012 01:40 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 01:17 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Fuck it, lynch me if you will, but either you re CW and trying to test me if I am Two-Face, or you play surprisingly bad as town.
CW is my humble opinion.
I think you thought I was extremely stupid to claim Two-Face, and you would put it beyond noobiness or whatever and FORGOT even to DT me in your efforts to appear town.
So now, I am not even sure if I die tonight.


You sure do like to talk about catwomen don't you :/

Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 04:48 rgTheSchworz wrote:
So, the check should be real. However, you can just ignore it, Rad s check hasn t been scoffed at as was mine.


You've dodged the question 3-4 times now. DrH said that all dt's return role not alignment to dt checks. You gave us a alignment, but not a role. Could you please respond? You're not being very transparent right now.

BM, for someone who mentioned how he couldn't wait to roll town, you sure haven't done much scumhunting. You also mentioned that you rarely read the thread as scum. It takes more than a name claim to prove you are town.

@Palmar. I like a chaoser lynch too. He appeared to have something invested in the CC day one lynch, although we will have to probably wait to see if Sheth's flip makes that relevant.

Kurumi, day one you claimed vigilante, but the number of possible roles you could be is running pretty thin. I think we need to revisit your name claim in the near future.

Did I miss anyone who claimed a hit?
Jackal - Mafia kp
DrH- ??
Radfield- ??
schworz- ??
kenpachi - Harley Quinn
Slardar - Penguin



are you implying I am Harley Quinn? If so, why?

Also I don't want to lynch Schworz tomorrow unless some really weird shit happens. I'd say he shot me or checked me because he thought I am red because of my fakeclaim. He either was afraid because I'm still alive and noone protected me or he found blue but was sure I am red. So he figured I am godfather which lead to the conclusion that DocH has to be red as well. Therefore he lied about his DT check and told us he found red in DocH.
I don't know what to make of it. Either it's what I said or he's catwoman imo.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 10 2012 16:54 GMT
#1882
On February 11 2012 01:52 rgTheSchworz wrote:
And even if I m not Two-Face, the real Two-face wouldnt counter-claim me.
He would be so exposed to CW.


nono, the real Two-Face is immortal! :p
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 10 2012 17:00 GMT
#1892
On February 11 2012 01:54 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 01:54 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 11 2012 01:52 rgTheSchworz wrote:
And even if I m not Two-Face, the real Two-face wouldnt counter-claim me.
He would be so exposed to CW.


nono, the real Two-Face is immortal! :p

Do you think it's the case with all 3?

you know what I was referring to.
On February 11 2012 01:57 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 01:54 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On February 11 2012 01:52 rgTheSchworz wrote:
And even if I m not Two-Face, the real Two-face wouldnt counter-claim me.
He would be so exposed to CW.

Why the fuck did you push me so hard as a liar then back off now? What made you that confident as a "pro-town" player to paint me red with a fake ass check. How in 10000000000 years is this pro-town behavior?

No one trusts you, so you're backing off despite no CC. I sense inherent guilt.


You claimed a hit right? maybe rG shot you.

either way, this behaviour is not pro town. maybe maybe maybe bad town. but much more likely scum.

Jackal shot DocH. DocH is the only one within the circle of people who are either dead or claimed a hit and at the same time are on the gay-phone-session. Jackal can only shoot people on his gay-phone-session. He called me a liar and maybe found out what was meant to be for docH. Anyways I'm pretty sury Jackal shot DocH.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 10 2012 17:10 GMT
#1904
On February 11 2012 02:01 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I'm sorry, what makes sense about announcing fake results that I'm mafia and then kept trying to push a case on FAKE CHECK

That's not a town move. It's not. It's not town to say "I don't care if I get lynched cause I can still win." So can scum. You would care about a wasted lynch if you want to win as town. You can't just say "Yeah I got this, it makes sense" when it doesn't make sense to anyone except you.


yeah that's what I'm afraid of. I still think he's not Two-face for a good damn reason. Apparently some people claim to do the same.
I'd say he's a coinflip by now: He's either going to flip red/catwoman (I doubt red) or he's going to flip a some bullshit like a DT or VET or VT that thought it's a good idea to make up a DT check (I'd say that makes VET or VT more likly) on someone he thinks is 99% sure mafia to roll with his Two-Face claim to protect the real two-face and wifom the shit out of catwoman (if it's not him).
I simply doubt that he knew I was about to retract my claim on d1, same about palmar. I thought neither of us got the balls to claim rightfully Two-Face and he might jump in and help us protecting the right Two-Face but he had to do that with passon and a good reason which ironically made palmar and me retract our claims.

SOOOO to sum it up he might flip worst DT ever, he might flip VET/VT who tried to help but didn't think palmar and I am going to retract because he thought we lied as well OR he's going to flip Catwoman/red. While all town options together are as likely as the not town option I guess.
I still don't know what to make of it. If I had a DT who found a blue and fakeclaimed a red-check because he's sure his own read is right without a doubt I'd straight up lynch the guy nevertheless because I'd say he's still a mafia who's just making up bullshit.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 10 2012 17:12 GMT
#1908
you're both kinda right kurumi and docH. Those are the two options I think are legit and I am for now not sure which one.
There's several slips he did that are telling me he 100% sure got a DT power. So I'd personally say it's catwoman but I won't talk about that for now.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 10 2012 17:27 GMT
#1919
He DT'ed me and had huge issues with the result I guess or he simply didn't believe me because he thought it's way more likly that I'm just a VET. IF he is a DT he found Two-Face and thought it's more likely to have a third party (who needs to kill Two-Face? right CW, CW chosing to get Two-Face on results back is pretty good I guess so I can see how he thought so) who impersonates Two-Face than me telling the truth all along and really being an immortal Two-Face. He thought the same way Jackal did. Read the text about CW. It clearly says it penetrates everything, therefore he called bullshit on me, found Two-Face and was sure that not even an idiot would claim Two-Face in the thread.

He just did not think that I was telling the truth at all. There's 2 things I thought:
  • I am not going to die n1. Maybe I even got hit by CW yesterday or by mafia I DON'T KNOW. That was not a lie.
  • I wanted everyone to think the way wbg did. Everyone thought "hey noone is stupid enough to claim Two-Face as Two-Face himself" and it worked.

Guess what. I got those balls. Remember my first ever game as mafia wbg? I fucking claimed medic you protected a confirmed mafia n1 because I thought it's the best move to not protect people like palmar / syllo / rad. I was a doctor in that game. Yes that's true, I claimed that as MAFIA and you don't think I've got the balls to claim what I claimed yesterday as Two-Face?. Trust me I got the balls and apparently everyone thought I'm a stupid vet n1 who tried to catch a bullet.

Schworz I guess I know what you did n1 and I don't want you to talk about it. I thought you're a vet who tries to safe Two-Face as well and figured "well whatever" and that's why I retracted my claim. Everyone already thought I was a VET myself at that point in time.
And now you don't talk about this issue any more schworz, deal?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 10 2012 18:08 GMT
#1931
hey palmar:

hero
Laya
Risk
Opz
forumite
Sheth
Chaoser


Agree much or not at all? I'd say there's errors in there but I'd say it's looking quite accurate tbh.
Haven't looked into jaybrundage, evantrees, -.-qualis, Katina and Adam yet. So if idk about those people. I still don't know what to think about VE but honestly the fact that I haven't found a thing that makes me think he is scum yet worries me a little. Maybe I'm getting better at judging him or he's really looking at what he's posting.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 10 2012 18:11 GMT
#1932
On February 11 2012 03:04 RayzorFlash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 03:00 layabout wrote:
On February 11 2012 01:33 Toadesstern wrote:
##Unvote Liquid'Sheth
##Vote chaoser

I would ask if you are out of your mind but it seems quite clear that you are


Agreed, random ninja vote change wtf...


what? I alread said, Sheth is on my "probably mafia"-list and Chaoser has been on my maybe mafia list d1, was promoted to probably mafia n1 and since d2 he's on my "KILL IT WITH FIRE" list.
How is that a ninja vote.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 10 2012 18:18 GMT
#1938
On February 11 2012 03:13 Palmar wrote:
the entire premise for changing from sheth to chaoser is sheth is not scum.

I think we're looking at something more along the lines of Chaoser, Kitaman27, Hiro Protagonist, Forumite, VisceraEyes and maybe jayjay? or katina?


i know. That's the reason I said there's errors in there but I don't really want to think of sheth as a townie either. However if sheth were to flip mafia today I'd still want to lynch Chaoser. Not sure about the opposite.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 10 2012 18:21 GMT
#1939
On February 11 2012 03:18 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 03:11 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 11 2012 03:04 RayzorFlash wrote:
On February 11 2012 03:00 layabout wrote:
On February 11 2012 01:33 Toadesstern wrote:
##Unvote Liquid'Sheth
##Vote chaoser

I would ask if you are out of your mind but it seems quite clear that you are


Agreed, random ninja vote change wtf...


what? I alread said, Sheth is on my "probably mafia"-list and Chaoser has been on my maybe mafia list d1, was promoted to probably mafia n1 and since d2 he's on my "KILL IT WITH FIRE" list.
How is that a ninja vote.


I looked through your filter and the first time you mention me at all is:

Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 19:58 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 10 2012 19:51 wherebugsgo wrote:
I think my only hope is that chaoser and kitaman are town this game.

Otherwise I think this is a town loss.


pretty sure if that's how it is we already auto-lossed
Don't know about kita yet but I'd say chaoser is mafia tbh.


7 Hours ago. Definitely not since day 1. And you never give any justification for it. You've been pretty vocal with your other mafia reads since day 1 though. This is definitely a ninja vote.

I'm only vocal about the ones I want to get lynched right now. I figured it's not a bad idea to give my orange and red reads out and ask people about them now because I'm still immortal and hey, it gives something to discuss. Or since I am not making sense to people they can at least look at my list and tell if they look me from what I put on that list.
Also I'm checking my filter right now, give me a second.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 10 2012 18:24 GMT
#1942
my post from earlier when I was talking with schworz:
On February 11 2012 01:23 Toadesstern wrote:
that's not exactly helping Schworz. I am a townie and I am not trying to find something out I am not supposed to know.
But Palmar tells me to shut up so I'll shut up for now. I'm up for lynching chaoser as well, he's the only one that made it to my "KILL IT WITH FIRE"-list while all 7 other people I think might end up flipping mafia are only on my "probably mafia"-list.


How is it a ninja vote? If you are talking about the fact that I didn't mention Chaoser earlier fine, can't do a thing about it and I surly won't just post a list of all names from now on on day-1's to make sure I am allowed to vote someone. But I'm pretty sure I mentioned you earlier as well. At least I said something along the lines that I don't like or. Not sure though. I'm not going to go trough my massive filter just because of that ;p
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 10 2012 18:30 GMT
#1946
On February 11 2012 03:27 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 03:11 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 11 2012 03:04 RayzorFlash wrote:
On February 11 2012 03:00 layabout wrote:
On February 11 2012 01:33 Toadesstern wrote:
##Unvote Liquid'Sheth
##Vote chaoser

I would ask if you are out of your mind but it seems quite clear that you are


Agreed, random ninja vote change wtf...


what? I alread said, Sheth is on my "probably mafia"-list and Chaoser has been on my maybe mafia list d1, was promoted to probably mafia n1 and since d2 he's on my "KILL IT WITH FIRE" list.
How is that a ninja vote.


You said that. And yet don't mention me till only a few hours ago. You give no justification and you're misrepresenting what you did.


I told you I don't talk about all my red reads vocally. I only talked about those I thought might be viable d1. That was CC / laya for me. I did not mention you d1 because I saw no need to do so. Doesn't stop me from putting you on my super secret list anyways.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 10 2012 18:35 GMT
#1948
On February 11 2012 03:24 Toadesstern wrote:
my post from earlier when I was talking with schworz:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 01:23 Toadesstern wrote:
that's not exactly helping Schworz. I am a townie and I am not trying to find something out I am not supposed to know.
But Palmar tells me to shut up so I'll shut up for now. I'm up for lynching chaoser as well, he's the only one that made it to my "KILL IT WITH FIRE"-list while all 7 other people I think might end up flipping mafia are only on my "probably mafia"-list.


How is it a ninja vote? If you are talking about the fact that I didn't mention Chaoser earlier fine, can't do a thing about it and I surly won't just post a list of all names from now on on day-1's to make sure I am allowed to vote someone. But I'm pretty sure I mentioned you earlier as well. At least I said something along the lines that I don't like or. Not sure though. I'm not going to go trough my massive filter just because of that ;p

<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
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