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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
January 28 2012 03:10 GMT
#438
I legitimately think I'd be happier lynching refallen than MZ tomorrow. Let's do that.

On January 28 2012 09:26 Lanaia wrote:
I don't think we should speculate about the amount of PRs we have.


:|
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
January 28 2012 04:20 GMT
#439
So I'm imagining a hypothetical world where Refallen, embarrassed at his gaffe, decides to do his best to help town immediately and add some good contributing posts, especially after the D1 lynch debacle. In this world, Refallen decides to do some analysis, make some posts, and generally be valuable as a townie. It's a beautiful and cruel world, because he knows he's probably dead tomorrow anyways, but he does his best to help town anyways, and possible exonerate himself in the process.

Oddly, we are not living in that world. Any thoughts on this, Refallen?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
January 28 2012 06:22 GMT
#444
On January 28 2012 14:04 Navillus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 13:48 GreYMisT wrote:
On January 28 2012 13:42 GMarshal wrote:

Meapak_Ziphh was just temp banned for 90 days by Plexa.

That account was created on 2010-06-11 09:41:04 and had 3184 posts.

Reason: By request.


Well that's unfortunate.

This issue will be absolved before the night is over, don't worry mortals


According to google definitions you are either going to 1. Declare the issue free from blame, guilt, or responsibility.
or 2. Give the issue absolution for a sin.


Actually he's just gonna solve this problem using his abs
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
January 28 2012 21:46 GMT
#464
Some people for some reason think it's day. It is currently not daytime, gentlemen.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
January 28 2012 21:46 GMT
#465
ladies and gentlemen
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
January 28 2012 22:46 GMT
#471
On January 29 2012 07:17 redFF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 08:56 Blazinghand wrote:
On January 28 2012 08:55 Hesmyrr wrote:
Number of people here will be enough to push anyone present, including Lanaia just saying. Also Blazinghand, I don't think I saw you specifically making a post why you think Radfield is scummy? In this game where mafia can team-kill each other scum will try hard not to look like town leader, which is exactly what he has been doing.


The case on Bum is nonexistent and meaningless. He handwaved a bit in a fashion consistent with his previous posting. The case on Radfield is based on some suspicious posting he made, and is also pretty shitty, but not nearly as shitty as the Bum case.

I'm alarmed that people aren't lynching MZ. Alarmed.


CALLS CASE ON RAD SHITTY
SAYS HE WANTS MEAPAK LYNCHED
VOTES RAD

DING
DING
DING


Ah yes you're right I should have voted Bum instead? Or wasted my one vote on the nonexistent Meapak lynch? dude you're right that's a much more useful thing I could have done
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
January 28 2012 22:51 GMT
#472
On January 29 2012 07:46 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 07:17 redFF wrote:
On January 28 2012 08:56 Blazinghand wrote:
On January 28 2012 08:55 Hesmyrr wrote:
Number of people here will be enough to push anyone present, including Lanaia just saying. Also Blazinghand, I don't think I saw you specifically making a post why you think Radfield is scummy? In this game where mafia can team-kill each other scum will try hard not to look like town leader, which is exactly what he has been doing.


The case on Bum is nonexistent and meaningless. He handwaved a bit in a fashion consistent with his previous posting. The case on Radfield is based on some suspicious posting he made, and is also pretty shitty, but not nearly as shitty as the Bum case.

I'm alarmed that people aren't lynching MZ. Alarmed.


CALLS CASE ON RAD SHITTY
SAYS HE WANTS MEAPAK LYNCHED
VOTES RAD

DING
DING
DING


Ah yes you're right I should have voted Bum instead? Or wasted my one vote on the nonexistent Meapak lynch? dude you're right that's a much more useful thing I could have done


Someone give this man a medal
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
January 29 2012 10:45 GMT
#511
On January 29 2012 16:01 redFF wrote:
SOMEONE VOTE ME PLEASE

I just need one person to, but it is vital.

On January 29 2012 16:32 Refallen wrote:
Well, ##Vote redFF


Found 2 scum
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
January 29 2012 12:03 GMT
#512
Also Refallen is scum anyways, so really I mean "found 1 more scum"
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
January 29 2012 21:51 GMT
#534
Well, given the previous debacle, his inability to be legitimately helpful, and his slippery scum communication with redFF, I see no reason not to ##Vote: Refallen.

He looks like scum to me.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
January 29 2012 23:23 GMT
#538
Ah yes you're right I definitely voted Rad without explanation and called for an MZ lynch all day 1. That is an accurate characterization of my actions. A real town player would have left his vote on MZ all the way until the very end, then moved his vote to break the tie in the way he thought was useful, but I clearly did not do that.

I definitely have never said anything about Bum, nor posted a case that he was town, justifying my Rad lynch.

Lastly, Refallen is a paragon of town play and voting him is clearly a scum move.

Nothing you just said was deceptive in any way.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
January 29 2012 23:24 GMT
#539
Oh no wait hold on scratch that redFF is scum making stuff up to save his scumbuddy refallen since I caught them communicating in thread, and everything he said *IS* deceptive and does not accurately characterize my actions this game. How about that
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
January 29 2012 23:25 GMT
#541
>.>
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
January 29 2012 23:26 GMT
#543
ah thanks for clarifying that what would we do without your revelations clearly we would be lost in a moonless ever-darkening night
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
January 30 2012 06:51 GMT
#564
So bum you got no thoughts on the redFF/Refallen interaction or Refallen's play / scumminess?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
January 30 2012 07:50 GMT
#567
I'd say that given Refallen's posts this game, it's not a pointless question at all, and definitely not for you. It's also a question you didn't address.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
January 30 2012 10:48 GMT
#572
On January 30 2012 19:21 Lanaia wrote:
I'll disclose if I'm forced to.


._. this is a really dumb post

cwave is a moron, but this was dumb.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
January 30 2012 10:49 GMT
#573
On January 30 2012 19:48 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2012 19:21 Lanaia wrote:
I'll disclose if I'm forced to.


._. this is a really dumb post

cwave is a moron, but this was dumb.


EBWOP never mind I think I misread you in the post before this.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
January 30 2012 17:51 GMT
#580
On January 30 2012 20:04 Refallen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2012 19:49 Blazinghand wrote:
On January 30 2012 19:48 Blazinghand wrote:
On January 30 2012 19:21 Lanaia wrote:
I'll disclose if I'm forced to.


._. this is a really dumb post

cwave is a moron, but this was dumb.


EBWOP never mind I think I misread you in the post before this.


Nope, I'm pretty sure it was a dumb post.

BH, what do you think about the bumatlarge wagon?


Your chief case against bumatlarge is this post:

On January 28 2012 21:38 Refallen wrote:
I'm not going to lie, I feel really retarded right now. Real life has been a continual bitch and things keep popping up, and I feel like I have acted very irresponsibly by joining this game.

So, to try and salve my guilty conscious a bit, here's a case on bumatlarge.

Show nested quote +
On January 26 2012 17:26 bumatlarge wrote:
I've always been a fan of not saying who I think is town, and just saying who I think is scum. I think that's what radfield is trying to say.

I do agree with meapak, that one glaring middle section in radfield's post is suspicious, I think it's more of him over-emphasizing his point to a degree that he actual talks about the exact strat he is trying to prevent. I think the major offender is this: "We need to ensure this does not happen. Therefore I propose that NO ONE call anyone else town. Players are either scummy, very scummy, definitely scum, OR not scum. That is all. If you think someone is almost for sure town, you still just have to call them 'not scum'."

It makes the whole warning completely void when you push that, rather then simply not discussing your town reads.


Ok, so right off the bat, he buddies Meapak in trying to lynch Radfield, by claiming that he's breadcrumbing...

but he breadcrumbs
Show nested quote +
I don't see anyway I could hint that I'm scum without townies seeing it, or that townies could just fake?


here too,

Then when radfield calls him out on it,

Show nested quote +
Well maybe it is a hidden breadcrumb for me not to get shot, and I'm not scum? Your move kaiba.


What is this? He actually claims that he is breadcrumbing, and the reason for that is so that he "dosen't get shot"? Does this not scream I AM SLEEPER AGENT DON'T SHOOT ME to you? It does for me.

Then he pushes Radfield over and over again over that little 'not scum' part of the plan, and Radfield is lynched and turned blue.
Show nested quote +

Meh it's radfield's fault

Didn't realize how close I came to actually getting lynched.


Or maybe it's because you among many was tunneling him over a case which never really grew from the first point of Radfield establishing a "not scum" term to describe townies.

Really regret missing out on the timetable for the game and having to vote in less than a min when I woke up and checked the thread, and so just throwing my vote on Radfield not having read like 10 pages of the thread. That was just terrible by me.


I feel like this is a relatively think case. I do think that this is better-stated than the case on bum was during D1, and I am no longer convinced of his innocence.

that being said, that's the only post of substance you've made. Previously was just you derping up D1 and after that is you talking to your scumbuddy redFFin code, followed by some poorly phrased "pressure" on redFF and some random questions for me and Lanaia.

I challenge anyone, anyone at all, to look at Refallen's post and tell me that this is a guy trying to help out the town:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=303792&user=100667&user=100667

he's done nothing helpful. he's communicated with his scumbuddy redFF. he's asked some random questions. He's made an acceptable case against Bum, but hasn't pushed it.

So uh what's he doing? this, ladies and gentlemen, is a skilled lurker. Refallen is gradually building up his post count and his interactions without actually helping the town. Look how carefully crafted his posts are to be unhelpful while seeming useful.

On January 29 2012 11:29 Refallen wrote:
But what made you think BH was scum at the first place and why has things changed, Lanaia?

And does no one else want to lynch bum?


You call that pushing a case?

you call that pressure?

No, I think it's obvious. Refallen is scum. Just LOOK AT HIS FILTER. SEE THE TRUTH FOR YOURSELVES. How am I like the only guy who realizes this. this should be an easy one guys
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
January 30 2012 18:00 GMT
#581
12 players alive.

Cwave (4): Bum, Zeph, Hes GGQ
Bum(5): Lanaia, Navi, redFF, Refallen, Scamp
Refallen (2): Jack, BH
GGQ (1): V7

Currently Bum is in the lead. But, given Refallen's actiions all games I would like everyone to come and lynch Refallen. check my case, it's solid as hell.
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