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Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
January 15 2012 01:08 GMT
#994
GG. Well played scum. The Ceph and Sheth fight day one won was very good!
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
January 15 2012 01:41 GMT
#1014
Thanks for hosting Greymist and risk :D
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
January 15 2012 01:42 GMT
#1015
On January 15 2012 10:37 gonzaw wrote:
Aw damn, people already thought I was scum on D3 in the Observers QT

Show nested quote +
Tunkeg: I go for prob get nightkilled and paper lynched, scum wins


Wow, really good prediction


Lucky prediction. As you can see from my post in the obs QT my reads were all over the place, hehe
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
January 15 2012 02:25 GMT
#1030
I'll try a noobie analysis of the game, and why the scum took this:

Ghosttown
I would say one of the biggest reasons the town lost was the amount of lurkers and inactives in the beginning. The scumteam had no problem appearing active, and was never really threathen during day one. These inactives remained hard to read throughout the game because of their "previous owners" lurky ways (one got modkilled, one got townlynched and the last one was comfirmed by prob before prob died).

Missreads
The town kept missreading players intention. I pushed the CM/AKCT lynch for things I thought was scummy, which instead was more newbie mistakes. Cats were under pressure the entire game, mainly because of a very strange early game, which including him voting himself. Even though his play in the end was quite good, he could never recover from his early mistakes, and the town kept missreading him until the end.

The mother of all fuck ups
Blurry claimed when he shouldn't and that led to his death and probs death, which instead may have led to a confirmed DT read on Gonz.

Great play by scum
Maybe THE reason for the town loss was great play by scum. The day one feud between Ceph and Sheth made me, and probably the rest of the town think they were nowhere near affiliated. A great play by prob, the DT check on Sheth, and the lynching of Sheth actually ended up playing into the scumteams favor, as town (led by prob) now dropped their suspicions against Ceph. Now Ceph was confirmed town.

Before this Gonz also made a play against me. I still think the analysis he did weren't all that great (and I would probably have tunneled him hard if I had survived the night). He forced me into making a big post about all the filler and useless post I thought he had made. But when scum lynched I thought that no scum would be dumb enough to have someone who is NK'ed putting up their case on them, as town really should read through any posts made by the NK'ed again knowing that he was town. I think also the town applied this WIFOM logic, and thought that Gonz couldn't be town for it (at least at the time). This was a brilliant play by Gonz (even though I think he overdid it later in the game by getting into an arguement with Jitsu right before he died, and prob right before he died, which made Gonz look very cummy towards the end).

The scums nightactions were also flawless, they did a brilliant move by holding back the RB early on in the game (which later helped them getting the medic killed), and their killorders were smart. The kill on me night one was good as doc should have me as a third choice at best (Prob and Jitsu being 1 and 2). The kill on Jitsu as they now were more sure that Prob wasn't doc. The third night kill on Prob after medic died. All great moves.

What I learned from this?
1. Town needs to be active!
2. Don't be so triggerhappy against players making mistakes. Analyse the mistakes don't just assume every mistake is something scummy.
3. I need to reconsider the interactions dead players have made. What arguements have other made against them? What arguements did the dead player make himself? Etc etc...
4. People who have pushed lynches on dead scumplayers aren't confirmed townies!

Town MVP
Probolous. He were the most active throughout the game, his DT play were great, and he were the one who got Sheth lynched.

Scum MVP
gonzaw. While his play in the thread in the end seemed very shady, and should have gotten him lynched (!!), his comments and ideas in scum QT were great. OVerall though the scumteam played very good!
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-15 02:30:27
January 15 2012 02:29 GMT
#1032
On January 15 2012 11:27 gonzaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2012 11:25 Tunkeg wrote:

This was a brilliant play by Gonz (even though I think he overdid it later in the game by getting into an arguement with Jitsu right before he died, and prob right before he died, which made Gonz look very cummy towards the end).



>_>


EDIT: Anyways, thanks for the analysis! (and the MVP award, although maybe it should be split in many different areas IMO, I don't think each scum member was any less or any better than the other, not even Sheth)




LOL. Bad typo there

And yeah, I kind of agree, the scumteam as a whole did a great job!
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
January 15 2012 02:43 GMT
#1034
So who where the coaches coaching?
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