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I would check out Ceph. Many have scumreads on him, but I am not sold on that. I think that some of the points made in the analysis on him are good though, so, yeah, I'd check him. Or perhaps Sheth, he is also pretty much a null read for me. 2) If you were a Doc (could save someone from a nightkill), who would you save and why? Probulous or Jitsu, as those are my main town reads atm. 3) If you were a Vigilante (town-aligned nightkill) who would you kill and why? I wouldn't kill anyone on night one. But if forced I would kill you. Reason beeing that I found CM most suspicious before he left. 4) If you were a Town-Aligned Roleblocker (could prevent someone from using their night action for a night) who would you block, and why? (Also, remember, an RB can act as a soft-cop. If you block someone and there's no nightkill, you may have blocked the mafia's kill! (Yes i know there's no Vig or RB in this setup.)) Also you 5) If you have a vote on someone currently, please explain your vote. My vote is on Gretorp for pressure. I won't vote him today even though he haven't contributed at all yet. I will however vote you. You will find the reasons in my filter. Post your reads and be active and I might change my mind. 6) If you don't have a vote on somebody, please park your vote on someone. Have an opinion. It doesn't matter if you're wrong. Abstainance lets scum hide amongst you! See 5. ##Unvote ##Vote: A Killer Cuppa Tea | ||
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On January 06 2012 05:37 Liquid`Sheth wrote: So we've really gotten off topic here. We need 7 votes to get a lynch. We've all agreed we need a lynch today. As far as I can tell (People format your votes like ##Vote: please ) Tunkeg - Gretorp --> A K C T CatsnHats - Gretorp --> Cephiro CookieMaker (A K C T) --> CatsnHats Blurry ---> A K C T Jitsu --> A K C T Liquid`Sheth --> Cephiro Probulous --> Cephiro Gonzaw --> Xeris So, as of now thats 8 votes out of 12. We need a majority of 7 to lynch. Xeris, Gretorp, AnxiousHippo,Cephiro we NEED your vote! Those of you who have your vote on A K C T are you willing to switch over to Cephiro if we don't have a lynch by the end of the day to at least get us a lynch? Who will be on for Lynch time? We lynch in exactly 4 Hours 23 Minutes from now. Well my biggest scumread is CM/AKCT. I have Ceph on pretty neutral. So I will stick by my vote. I will go to bed in like 45 minutes, and I really don't want a no-lynch. So please the rest of you who haven't voted, please vote and make your vote count. | ||
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This was your last post: On January 06 2012 01:10 Cephiro wrote: Okay everyone, I am back and catching up on the whole thread, re-reading everything a few times to be sure that I am not missing anything. I will soon be doing two bigger posts: One to respond against any accusations made on me & answering any possible questions, and another to share my analysis on every player (but myself). Please deliver these posts as soon as possible. Stalling now is not a good idea for you... | ||
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I do agree that Ceph have been very non-commital and vague. And yes, he have some fillers, especially in the beginning. But I think that he have tried to make discussion with his posts. I do not like his defense against you though. I'll stick aroun abit longer to see what reads he posts before making my final decision (if it doesn't take to long). | ||
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So my vote stays on CM/AKCT. With that I sign out for the night. | ||
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Now I'll be a little bit pessimistic. Even if we have a great deal of players who is posting alot and contributing wwe have quit a few lurkers. The worst of them beeing Xeris and Gretorp who didn't post once yesterday, and didn't even vote. This is so incredible anti-town that it is starting to annoy me. Blurry have also been somewhat lurky, but hat least he have posted some, so we have something to base our analysis on. Then we have Cats doing the selfvote, this is really sad, and I would usually vote off anyone who do this kind of stunt. But instead I will beg you Cats to unvote yourself, and come back to the game, you have been more active then alot of others and I don't agree that you are terrible at this game. Sure, some of your posts are suspicious and I might end up voting for you on day 2. But I'd rather that you come back and play the game, defend yourself, make cases and help town win this, than OMGUS'ing yourself and leave. The worst thing you can do now as a town is to get yourself voted off on day 2, as we then probably will be down 3 players going into night 2. If we lose this because of you selfvoting and leaving I will surely blame you for the loss and consider your play bad as hell, if we lose after you coming back and at least trying I will not blame you for it (sure I might think you have made some newbie mistakes if you are town, but I won't hold that against you). Now for some WIFOM, hold it against me if you wish. I said yesterday that I would put anyone not voting for someone up for the lynch under heavy scrutiny. Well, 3 players didn't vote at all, one got lynched. For the two others, Xeris and Gretorp, I am truly dissapointed. Do this mean I think they are members of the North American Scum League, no, my WIFOM logic is that scum wouldn't risk not voting and getting modkilled, however these guys might actually be smart enough to realise that they would just get a warning and just meta this (This is why WIFOM is just WIFOM). I think it is likely that they are just bad townies because of this, but I leave a small chance for them to just be very clever scum. | ||
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In closing to my WIFOM over I think there is other players who need to be focused more on on day 2. This beeing said I fear going to the late game with Xeris and Gretorp as no one will have no read on them at all. | ||
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On January 07 2012 05:34 gonzaw wrote: Tunkeg, I expected you to do better than this. This was already said, nothing new. So here you state that some people are lurking, and didn't post nor vote... Do you think we don't know that? Tunkeg, this info here is absolutely useless. You are not saying anything new This was stated by Prob and me too. Again, you are not saying anything new. Yes, this is WIFOM, and very bad at it. Do you know how many games I played where some scum forgot about the game, disappeared and was modkilled? It's not "scum always pay attention to the game". If a certain player is busy, or doesn't care about the game in the first place, he won't care about the game whether he's town or scum. They don't have to be "clever scum" to be inactive. Hell, that's even the opposite of "clever scum", they have all the pressure and eyes on them, they eventually have to get here to not get modkilled and they have A LOT to respond to. They also have a chance of getting DT checked, or even getting policy lynched. This sounds pretty stupid to me if they are scum (and doing it on purpose); so what you said doesn't make any sense. Really Tunkeg, you were giving me a town feel, but this post is a mess and screams fluff and regurgitation everywhere. What the hell? LOL, are you just trying to pick a fight here? I will post whatever I like thank you. Post a real analysis or gtfo, analysing my one post here is just meaningless, it was my post on how I felt the lynch went. But please feel free to post more useless analysis as these, you might just reveal yourself as scum if you do... | ||
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On January 07 2012 05:45 gonzaw wrote: What? I'm pointing out your post is a mess, I want a reason why. You could have just used the lynch to analyse other players, like we are all doing, and is what you should do, instead of posting that meaningless post. Why do you say it's an "useless analysis"? So you are free to post all the fluff and filler you want then? And I am saying that my post is perfectly fine. Just because you guys have said something while I wasn't able to post in the thread doesn't mean I can't post my view of the lynch. And yes, I wanted to encourage Cats to continue, I don't care wheather you or prob did it. And yeah, my WIFOM was WIFOM but I explained why I won't be going after Xeris and Gretorp for not voting. Pleeease feel free to pursuit this, but if you want to make a case on me, go through my filter and dig up some more. Only good thing about your post is that you got my attention, before you have pretty much been floating under the radar for me. | ||
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On January 07 2012 06:12 gonzaw wrote: What? Is this some subtle OMGUS or something? You also said "I beg all of you to analyse this lynch and the reasoning the people had behind their vote. ", and I don't see you doing anything about it. ....what? I've been flying under the radar? Wtf is this? I will pursue this because I find it odd as hell, both your post and your response. I don't have to make a case, why would I do that? I am not FoSing you, I just want answers. No, it is not an OMGUS of you as a whole, it is a OMGUS of that post you made to me though... You have been flying under the radar for ME, I haven't paid much attention to you at all, and kind of had a null read on you. I am not saying you have flown under the radar as a whole, as you have a fair amount of posts. Your post makes me want to go through your filter, which is a good thing. You are free to post however you want, but I don't see you getting much more out of nitpicking on my one post here. I have answered you now to why I posted as I did(which I really don't think should be necessary, as it was my reaction to the lynch). | ||
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On January 07 2012 06:24 gonzaw wrote: It's not my fault you didn't pay attention to me. Of course it's good reading other people's filters and analysing, it's what you are supposed to do. Hmm....fine then. So how about you do that "analysing peoples reasons for their votes"? What do you find? What do you think about Blurry for instance? And about those that bandwagoned to avoid the NL? Where did I ever say it was your fault? I just said you know have caught my attention. Are you trying to missunderstand me on purpose? How about me analysing peoples at my own discretion, this is night, and then we have the entire day 2 to do it, meaning I can do some good analysis (hopefully) instead of rushing into some bad analysis that is useless. I'll answer your last question though: Blurry haven't posted all that many posts, made some one liner analysis on everyone. He was one of the first to vote CM/AKCT (that in itself means nothing), but his reasoning for it was pretty weak. Does this make him more or less scummy then others voting for AKCT? Well, there were players in on the lynch who certantly had much better reasoning behind their votes, but there where also alot of players who had much less reasoning behind it. Those who bandwagoned to avoid NL, well, it all depends on their reasoning behind their votes. Some of those who jumped like Prob had allready a scumread on CM/AKCT and is alot less suspicious then others. | ||
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On January 07 2012 07:47 gonzaw wrote: What? I'm not misunderstanding you. I was implying it's your fault you didn't pay attention to me earlier. You should pay attention to everybody. Why wait? I'd prefer to not waste time and pressure and analyse as soon as possible. It may give us more precious time on Day 2. OK, either my english sucks or your english sucks, or both of our english sucks. Or maybe you are just a nitpicker, who want to bicker about every little detail. Fine, whatever. Ofc it is my "fault" for not paying attention to you, but you were just posting so much uninteresting, but not scummy, stuff that I didn't take interest in you. But when you did your "analysis" of my post you caught my attention. Because anyone wanting to waste peoples time by doing those kind of analysis should be looked into. And looked into you I have. You have alot of these non-interesting and non content posts, but inbetween you have some good posts where you question and pressure people and do reads. I find it ironic that you try to call me out for what you belive is a non-content post when you have so many yourself. I don't care what you prefer. How do you feel about that? | ||
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BTW post you own damn analysis if you feel it is so important to get it done as soon as possible. If that is your stand, do that. And make a good analysis, not just these bad ones, like the one you did for my post. | ||
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On January 07 2012 09:11 gonzaw wrote: I don't get what "you" are bickering about here. You posted that you didn't pay attention to me until now. I posted that I agreed, and you should have in the first place. I don't get what's to "nitpick" here...? Or what this has to do with our English (..es? I don't know the plural)...? Okay, I really want other people to tell me if my "analysis" is "useless". I don't believe it is. I try to pick up inconsistencies and odd behaviour from anyone I can, that's how I catch scum. I picked up yours, and suddenly it's "useless". Really? So my "analysis" is bad just because I did it on you? What? Please, if you find a post from mine similar to yours in terms of fluffiness (or whatever you call it in this forum) be my guest. I try to be blunt and catch scum, not post "updates of what I feel" or whatever you did. Also, as you can see, this conversation is not helping anyone. You are stating things without backing them up (that I have "non-interesting posts" for instance, I don't get what you mean by that). You are also stating blatantly false things (that I "misunderstood you"), and you are being very apathetic and chlidish in a way (you say you will post your analysis whenever you like, and that you post whatever you like, that you don't care what I prefer, etc). This doesn't mean that you are scum, but it means that you are being unnecessary helpless and obtuse. I already posted my analysis, go reread the thread. You want me to link every filler post you have made? Fine: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=299955¤tpage=6#105 - Useless http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=299955¤tpage=6#116 - Pretty much just jibber jabber http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=299955¤tpage=7#131 - Filler/useless http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=299955¤tpage=7#133 - One of many questions http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=299955¤tpage=10#183 - Nitpicking on about RNG http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=299955¤tpage=10#188- RNG again... http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=299955¤tpage=13#251 - One of many edits without content http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=299955¤tpage=13#252 - WTF is the first part here? Going on about formatting? YEAH, GREAT POINT! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=299955¤tpage=14#261 - Filler/useless http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=299955¤tpage=14#266 - Filler http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=299955¤tpage=15#293 - LAst part is filler only. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=299955¤tpage=15#295 - Filler http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=299955¤tpage=17#334 - Useless http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=299955¤tpage=17#336 - Useless, keep talking about immaterial things. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=299955¤tpage=20#382 - Stating obvious stuff, as you accused me off. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=299955¤tpage=20#394 - Filler http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=299955¤tpage=21#406 - Filler Thanks for vasting my time btw. That is one thing you are good at in this game. And for your analysis after the lynch it is just a quick one, with no real content in it: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=299955¤tpage=21#403 - Written in a very little methodical way and all you end up with is that you want to pressure three guys. WHAT A GREAT ANALYSIS MAN. So now is the time I wil just OMGUS you. I am not saying you are scum, I will just say I think you are bad. And until either you make a real case on me, or I feel the urge to make a case on you I will just ignore you, because you are just one big distraction (well, unless you make more really stupid post involving me that I need to correct). | ||
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On January 07 2012 09:24 Probulous wrote: Guys, please just drop it. We haven't heard anything from Hippo, Blurry, Cats (obviously), Cephiro, Xeris or Gretorp. Where are you guys? Well, I will drop my discussion with gonz because it is pretty damn useless. But before I leave it can you give me your input on the "analyses" he did on my post, and the discussion that followed. | ||
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On January 07 2012 09:54 Liquid`Sheth wrote: Yes OMGUS= Oh my god you suck | ||
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