EPTOn January 16 2012 20:35 Bluelightz wrote:
Okay then disregard that.
If you have any questions please do ask.
Okay then disregard that.
If you have any questions please do ask.
So you still think I'm scum? Or did my one-liner change your mind? X_X
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So you still think I'm scum? Or did my one-liner change your mind? X_X | ||
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On January 16 2012 08:30 Refallen wrote: You know, I apologize if it seems like I'm not putting any effort into the game. I actually check this thread every 10-20 minutes when I'm awake. Perhaps it seems I am inactive because I'm asleep during the time where everyone is posting, and that's frustrating tome too. Right now, I find many people suspicious, and it's kind of frustrating for me. Spaackle/Bluelightz/Dirkzor/Tyrran seem to me to be all good targets for a lynch or a night hit. I'll focus on Dirkzor for this post though. -> Goes ballistic at syllo after the Erandorr switch And? Cwave was town, but whatever, this dosen't say much, many people thought Cwave was scummy. But you added it anyway because? Why? Tries to defend Palmar, and yet adds a disclaimer that he wouldn't defend Palmar if they were on the same scum team. What townie does that? This post was not a defence of palmar. It was me saying that I did not know about palmer because all cases made against was purely meta at that point. Something I don't know about and can not argue for or against. The answer to your question: A townie that is very confused why the vets are saying "he is 100% scum" when i can't see that. If we took Palmars posts up until this point compared to, lets say, Bluelightz, palmar actually looked good. The case on Palmar was only because people knew from before which I dont. I think RoL is a stupid lynch. I think it was syllo who wrote that you have to consider why a person suggest a plan. I honestly believe that RoL think it is a good plan and that is why he is fighting for it so much. The plan is well thought out and well delivered. RoL seems to think the blues are dispossable for 4 confirmed townies leaving us with a 5/13 scum scenario instead of 5/17. I disagree and would rather go 5/17 with blue support. From this To this, when it is clear that everyone was hopping on the RoL/HoD bandwagon. Yup, I think he might be RoL's teammate. Lets add timestamps on those quotes: On January 11 2012 03:38 Dirkzor wrote: I think RoL is a stupid lynch. I think it was syllo who wrote that you have to consider why a person suggest a plan. I honestly believe that RoL think it is a good plan and that is why he is fighting for it so much. The plan is well thought out and well delivered. RoL seems to think the blues are dispossable for 4 confirmed townies leaving us with a 5/13 scum scenario instead of 5/17. I disagree and would rather go 5/17 with blue support. I agree that he was inactive the first day serving us excuses, but thats about all he have done wrong if you disregard his plan and defence thereof. On January 15 2012 02:07 Dirkzor wrote: The way I see it is that HoD and RoL is both a lynch i can support. Are you kidding me? 4 Days between the posts and A LOT happened during those days regarding RoL. Also you only quoted the part where i gave my opinion of RoL. What about the rest of the posts where I point out my reasoning. Your case is horrible which is why i never answered it in the first place. | ||
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On January 16 2012 22:36 Jackal58 wrote: Just got to work and getting caught up. Layabout - Wtf is up with your vote. BH is so freaking town it's not even funny. Your vote hits me as a PSA from scum screaming "here I am" Eh? Lay haven't voted yet... do you mean it the other way around? | ||
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On January 14 2012 13:25 HarbingerOfDoom wrote: Oh hai bandwagon. I am the sage. So no. He did not claim Seer. He claimed sage. | ||
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If we believe that HoD is the sage, he is not a demon. He might still be angel but it just overall lowers our chance of hitting scum. If we do not believe HoD is sage, we should lynch HoD. | ||
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Fuck Bull Crap ARGH! That lay was twisted and HoD targeted him just seems to good to be true. That way HoD did not have to come up with another statement that could or could not be right. I think he got lucky on the grack claim, or his team (angels) knew he wasnt a demon because the acolyte tried to kill him and it was then safe to say he got Not demon. RoL claimed Channeler because angels knew our plan to put HoD in purgatory (which of course wouldn't happen). They hoped it would confuse town enough to let HoD live today and lynch someone else. ##Vote HoD | ||
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I just thought i had figured it out with my above post but as soon as i posted it something else came up and folded my theory. I'm just lost. | ||
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Was RoL telling the truth about him being the channeler? - If yes Wiggles was the sage and HoD can easily be lying. - If no Wiggles was the channeler and HoD is telling the truth. There is no counter claim. Thats the answer I'm trying to find and I can't. On January 16 2012 19:00 Blazinghand wrote: Let me tell you my reasoning on this subject. After the lynch I did some research and thought RoL was the channeller. and here's why. If Wiggles was long dead, why did on January 15 at 00:54 KST someone ask about the channeler's self-protecting ability? No, that was RoL, deciding if he should claim or not. He is aggressively going after me, then here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=298603&user=41447¤tpage=5 in his filter, you see him change tack, just after the new Q+A is added. he no longer attacks me and rather comfortably decides to claim. Why would RoL need to know the answer to that question if he was a lying angel? Why would he need to know if he was the channeler? If he was lying angel scum he would like to know if he could not banish in order to make up some story why he didn't use his powers since he didn't have any, but the other question is entirely irrelevant. If he was the real deal he would like to know if he could banish himself = to save himself. That is clear from the OP - which i assume he have read. Why the need to know if he could not banish? Note: + Show Spoiler + Once the game begins (roles have been distributed), players should ask their questions about the game via PM. If any questions do involve legitimately unclear, or missing and necessary public information, the question will be publicly answered in the thread without identifying the person asking the question (the question may possibly be paraphrased). If any questions do involve legitimately unclear, or missing and necessary private information, the question will be privately answered by PM To further investigate this I took a look at the timeline. HoD's claim. On January 14 2012 13:25 HarbingerOfDoom wrote: Oh hai bandwagon. I am the sage. RoL first post after the claim from HoD On January 14 2012 23:42 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Rest of the post deleted Zona's update of Q&A. Little more then an hour after RoL had come back to the thread. The timeline fits with RoL PM'ing that question to Zona. On January 15 2012 00:54 Zona wrote: The Q&A post has been updated with new questions and their answers RoL's claim: On January 15 2012 06:51 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: I am working and just turned my laptop on in the back. It's pathetic that it even came to this, I have no idea how you managed to scrounge up 5 votes on me, but the fact now is they need one more vote before demons can force hammer me with the corrupted. So now I have to claim, I am the Channeler. I need to finish closing now, but I will be back before the deadline. I will prove myself by claiming my action before the next day post. Reading that now makes me wonder how I came to another conclusion when it was posted. This doesn't look like an angel trying to lie. This looks like a townie who have given up. He was going to get killed and he realized that. Compare that to HoD claim which was way more elaborate and constructed. So all in all I believe RoL's claim more then HoD. Anyone agrees/disagrees? Also i would like your statement on the first paragraph (HoD allignment part) whether you think it have any merits? | ||
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Refallen is looking scummy to me lately. If you look at his activity level it have been kinda low the entire game. But these last few days he have been VERY active. He haven't had a correct read yet and is as of late constantly trying to get me lynched. Since i know I'm town i find that scummy. He continue to state that HoD is the sage as if it is a fact. It is NOT. He is pushing all the easy targets: Myself, Tyrran and Bluelightz. He say Layabout is demon because Lay want to lynch HoD (as angel = Refallen's buddy) | ||
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If HoD is lying grack would have pushed HoD harder. If HoD is telling the truth he is not demon, and i don't see him as angel (Don't see him as any scum tbh) | ||
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READ THE FUCKING THREAD, part 2 So yeah I agree with you on the VT claim before his blue claim. But RoL addressed this (wont find his post as im in a hurry now) with him wanting to get the ball rolling on the claims. If no one supported his plan he did not want to claim a blue role. I agree that a better way would be to just not claim VT, but I don't fund it unlikely that it could have been the other way around. | ||
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On January 17 2012 21:07 Refallen wrote: The moment he claimed VT and still proposed the plan is definite-confirmed scum. There is no justification for claiming VT, no matter what RoL says. Imagine if we actually adopted the plan and started claiming. If RoL says all of a sudden, as sage, that "oh sorry guys i'm blue haha" town would lynch him instantly. Wrong. After RoL claimed VT he could later have claimed channeler without it looking suspicious. As he had already claimed VT he could wait for everyone else to claim. The channeler would be missing and he could then claim channeler and most would believe him because no one else claimed channeler. If someone else claimed channeler before him he could counter-claim and town would lynch RoL (and get channeler), but after that we would lycnh the person who claimed channeler as he was lying. I'm agreeing more and more with Layabout. It appears as Refallen and HoD are buddy-ing up. They are getting their story straight as they say. Now the big question is: Which one is the AoD? HoD would be the obvious choice. Unless AoD hit Syllo first night which I don't think is unlikely. I want to lynch Refallen or HoD as of now. | ||
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I'm just not convinced that RoL = scum, and i find it weird that you just assume that as if it is a fact. | ||
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refallen then? | ||
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