EPTNow, I voted you because you didnt contribute much to the discussion you we're just asking question's and posting one-liners anyway as you said we have 60 hours so that's alot of time for you to contribute.
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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
Now, I voted you because you didnt contribute much to the discussion you we're just asking question's and posting one-liners anyway as you said we have 60 hours so that's alot of time for you to contribute. | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
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Cwave
Netherlands313 Posts
On January 09 2012 21:16 Refallen wrote: Well I decided to take a look at Cwave since Dirk is voting for him. Cwave Ok, weird role to choose the most important power of. Unless you're a demon. Buddying with Palmar, possible scumbuddies? The exchange about risk.nuke and his plan sounds especially contrived. Not wanting to vote risk.nuke? I'm going to say that if we lynch risk.nuke and he flips demon, Cwave is most probably the last one. At that time there was much unclear on who was the best target to lynch in my opinion. Noone had anything like a 100% scumslip or solid case and our best bet was Errandor. Then someone started on Risk and i looked into his filter. I still think that at that time, there wasn't much scummy stuff in his filter so i parked my vote on Errandor. That then the mandatory panic switching insued later on ending in the lynching of Errandor is shamefull but i still stand for the vote cause at the time, he was our best lynchtarget...  Only one to blame is Errandor himself cause he was not really defending himself which made it easy for everyone to panic switch to him. As for a better target, i was loathing RoL cause he was being ultra useless. Seems he now filled the thread with a plan to mass claim. If anything, this is not the game for massclaiming in my opinion, as also explained by other peeps. Certainly not in the early game! As for the palmar thing, Palmar creates information spam, whatever allignment. I don't see how that observation by me makes me his buddy. On January 06 2012 12:45 risk.nuke wrote: I don't want to lynch palmar because first of all he is Palmar and secondly he seems to be missing. Why should we lynch the (imo) best player in the game in a 2 mafia team setup day 1. Not too bad of a plan since you do tend to create good ripples in the water. And with ripples comes information. Or this one?[/quote] Palmar creates information spam, useless stuff and usefull stuff. I don't see how that observation by me makes me his buddy? I've played games with Palmar outside of the TL context and he is known for his textwalling and informationgathering skills, no matter what side he is on. Information and interaction is good for our town. | ||
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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On January 09 2012 20:37 Dirkzor wrote: Actually: ##Vote Cwave Either he is scum with palmar or he is a townie with a bad read (on me). This is the guy that needs to go today. He's scum. ##Vote: Dirkzor. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
I did (manually) accept (a) 10:00 KST action(s) night 1. | ||
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Cwave
Netherlands313 Posts
Then they both switch and nothing is said of it and right before Palmar flips, he lists Wiggles as town. Where as before in his filter, nowhere does it come forward that he has really changed his mind or that Wiggles has him convinced that he is town. Seeing as Palmar flipped scum, im thinking MrWiggles might be one of his demonic dancing partners. Palmar attacks MrWiggels after Wiggles makes a "case" against him. So palmar rewards a bad read with a vote. Scummy play and turns out, Palmar was scum. On January 06 2012 19:30 Palmar wrote: No you are, because you cannot possibly be this bad. ##Vote: Mr. Wiggles Ok, so full on action. Then, the 8th of januari happens, last day of the first day. On January 08 2012 07:38 Palmar wrote: Die scum ##Vote: risk.nuke Vote happens @ 7:38 on 8th januari 2012. Then in MrWiggles his filter he attacks palmar right up until the last "day" of day1, namely 7th of januari. 8th of januari, the day of the deadline. He stops with digging into palmar without any reasoning for it in his filter. On January 08 2012 07:30 Mr. Wiggles wrote: ##Unvote: Palmar ##Vote: risk.nuke Vote happens on 8th of januari 2012 at 7:30. In conclusion, these two were giving eachother nothing but hate right up until ~7:30 on the 8th of januari. Looks like a planned and organised move to move the votes of eachother after they created some distance of eachother on day1. | ||
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Cwave
Netherlands313 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=298603&user=87086 MrWiggles filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=298603&user=99050 | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On January 10 2012 00:15 syllogism wrote: I'm more interested in what you think of risk.nuke right now And what do you think of Dirkzor? | ||
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Cwave
Netherlands313 Posts
On January 10 2012 00:15 syllogism wrote: I'm more interested in what you think of risk.nuke right now They way Palmar handled Risk.nuke i think its safe to say he is not on the demonic team. So late voting for Risk is too risky for their team to control and he wouldnt just sacrifice one of his own to appear more innocent in a setup of 3/3/12. So, Risk is Town or Angel. He claims townie with no powers. Then this On January 09 2012 10:00 risk.nuke wrote: I'm a vt. which is only preluded by On January 09 2012 08:35 risk.nuke wrote: I'll claim just before daypost. followed with On January 09 2012 21:11 risk.nuke wrote: Here are the surfers riding last days bandwagonwave. There isn't a real case againt me. Just layabout's horrible tunneling pet theory. We just recived a ton of information due to palmars demonflip and with that I shouldn't even be a target. How can I possibly be the best lynch of the day with some 60 hours left. And everyone better state a reason I don't care what you quote aslong as you give atleast some reasoning. I said I would claim vt, then I got insanely bussy with newbie mafia related stuff. At 59 I just tabbed and pressed vt because first I said I would and I had no idea if people were claiming as rol wanted or not. second I was hoping my promise to claim just before deadline might make me the angel think I was a scared blue. And If I were killed and you couldn't see my flip I wanted to have claimed vt. He said he would claim. He didnt say he would claim VT like the states in his last post i quoted here. Wonder if that's semantics or a slip that he said he would claim VT against his scumbuddies and then thought he claimed it in here aswell. He also, rightfully, distances himself from Palmar and his demon team cause the likelyhood of such powerplay by Palmar to semi-lynch Risk is just very small. Doesn't mean risk isn't Angel scum in my opinion. All in all, he has been getting a lot of heat from everyone, held up his head sort of ok and his death might flip us an angel. My personal target is now Dirkzor again for voting on me cause i "had a bad read on him". That alone is scummy and weird behaviour which doens't have the towns interest in mind. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
Early on he was somewhat calling out palmar and was willing to lynch risk. While later his position on Palmar shifted, he did it manner that doesn't appear scummy especially due to the fact that if Palmar was on his team, he almost certainly would have told him that it's a bad idea. He was also willing to push me, which is also something that I think a team mate of palmar would be less likely to do in that situation. He could act like that as scum and some of his assertions don't make sense, but I don't think he is a good lynch today. Even if he is a team mate of palmar, which I consider unlikely right now, we shouldn't lynch a demon tonight. Demon hunter and angels can both kill demons, they are a man and an important role down. I'm fairly convinced that we need to see risk flip. By the way demons it is in your best interest to let us see that flip, because if he flips an angel, we will be able to go after the remainder of his team, instead of being forced to focus on more general scum hunting. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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Cwave
Netherlands313 Posts
On January 08 2012 20:57 syllogism wrote: So I guess Palmar you are on the other scum team after all? Would explain why you weren't really that keen on Erandorr lynch; you knew he wasn't on your team and that one of the two was thus likely town. Could have at least warned me Syllogism. Im trying to look for the context in the thread before this post but it seems to me you are referring to Palmar as being in the "other scum" team, implicating you are in a "scum team" aswell? Do you mean Risk.nuke has high potential for being an Angel(seeing as Palmar flipped Demon) or did you slip here and write from your own perspective? Being a scum team and seeing as Palmar flipped Demon, making you an Angel? Or am i not reading this right? | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On January 10 2012 01:32 Cwave wrote: Syllogism. Im trying to look for the context in the thread before this post but it seems to me you are referring to Palmar as being in the "other scum" team, implicating you are in a "scum team" aswell? Do you mean Risk.nuke has high potential for being an Angel(seeing as Palmar flipped Demon) or did you slip here and write from your own perspective? Being a scum team and seeing as Palmar flipped Demon, making you an Angel? Or am i not reading this right? Palmar was in the end quite willing to lynch risk. I think he would have went after Erandorr earlier if risk was on his team. So yes that means if risk is scum, he is very likely an angel. | ||
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Cwave
Netherlands313 Posts
You are one of the strongest warriors from heaven, and are usually in the front lines of battle, but this mission is so important that you were moved from your regular duties to ensure its success. Every night, you may target a player to slay. That player will be utterly destroyed, and only you will find out what role and alignment the player had. You win with the angels. You may communicate outside of the thread with your angelic teammates, who are: So it's not the AoD who killed something. Other 2 possible demon killers are Angelic Acolyte and Town Demon Hunter so either one of those killed Palmar or we wouldn't have seen the allignment. The Angelic Acolyte had to stalk Palmar with Demon then or the Town Demon Hunter had to target Palmar. Either way, it wasn't the AoD who killed Palmar. As the chance is very slim (0,0%) the AoD wouldn't try to kill on night one...... Either Syllogism or HoB is the AoD.....! In combination with that weird choice of words i quoted before here, you are looking very very scummy syllo............ | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9856 Posts
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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