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Syllo you came out looking REALLY bad after this. Your reason for pushing Erandorr so late is bullshit. We had people on erandorr/risk. I believe something like 4/7. Then you post this: On January 08 2012 08:32 syllogism wrote: How many do we have around? I'm fine with switching to erandorr, I'm virtually certain that erandorr is scum and only very convinced that risk is Why switch so late if you are _very_ convinced about risk? Is that not good enough? I understand that you can find some people more scummy then others, but why wait until 1½ hour before deadline to try an switch? On January 08 2012 08:45 syllogism wrote: I haven't been pushing the meta case against Erandorr, but he really wouldn't play like this as town. He even signed up for TL mafia L so he isn't burned out or busy; he just loathes playing as scum. In election mafia he hydraed with curu and refused to post at all due to rolling scum. Yesterday he lied about being sleepy, while I know he had been and still was playing dota 2 and kept playing for at least an hour after making the post (I went to sleep by that point). Such pure meta cases are annoying to push and I thought the case against risk was better in terms of it actually constituting as "playing mafia". But erandorr really can't be town Your reasoning here looks okay, but if you had already made up your mind about not pushing him because it was all meta-based why change so late? You even say that the risk case is/was better - this was after his defence. Why would you make chaos on purpose to switch from a guy that you find scummy to a guy you find more scummy? I don't get it. On January 08 2012 09:28 syllogism wrote: We can switch back, I do agree that last minute switches are awful. I may be too easily fooled by the fact risk is willing to stay here and defend, despite the fact he isn't saying anything useful at all. You only post that can be called a reason to switch that late. But at the same time you said risk wasnt saying anything usefull - so i assume you did not like his defence or his posting. Other then that you just pushed people to change: + Show Spoiler + On January 08 2012 08:35 syllogism wrote: risk.nuke please vote erandorr so we can switch if we want, you have to pm the bot, read the OP for instructions On January 08 2012 08:53 syllogism wrote: Palmar why won't you switch? Will you switch if we can get enough? On January 08 2012 09:05 syllogism wrote: First of all RoL you aren't voting for anyone right now, read the instructions for voting. Pm the bot: to: zbot subject: purgatory body: ##Vote Erandorr And I'll end with this: | ||
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I realized you have pointed towards risk the whole day and criticized his first post. It only enhanced my question: Why the change? | ||
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He looks fishy. Not only for saying he thinks i'm scum several times with the only reasoning is a weak ass "case" about my first post and because It found a difference in the OP and Zbot vote count post. But more so because he havent said anything else the entire first day. He have spend the entire day 1 pointing out the obvious: RoL arent posting, Jackal have done nothing but hate palmar (But i must admit i found his post on Jackal amusing =)) He haven't taken a stance on anything and voted Erandorr with the reason that he is lurking. I'll keep an eye on him... | ||
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I realise that you aren't the only one who pushed for the switch and I'll look into them aswell. | ||
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So even if we get 4 confirmed townies they will die to fast. Nah I don't like it. | ||
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On January 09 2012 04:06 syllogism wrote: This is palmar scum claiming. He has been trolling for a while now but this is as close at is gets If I had written that would you take that as scum claiming? | ||
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But i guess we can lynch him and if he flips town we lynch you... | ||
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/Sarcasm end | ||
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I'm very unsure about palmar at the moment and i have yet to see a case which is not "This is not Town palmar". Besides that there aren't really anything against him. I don't know the meta on you guys so i have no clue. Thats why i asked syllo a few times about his opinion on palmar. What does strike me about palmar is that he shifted gear mid day 1. He posted a lot more and became more agressive after being called out on not doing exactly that. The case wiggles made kinda fell a part because wiggles lied (intentionally or not, that was one of the few parts that were not meta). Which leaves me with a null read on palmar. And i don't see how my argument against syllo is stupid. If he knows him aswell as he saids then there are 2 possibilities if Palmar flip town: 1) Syllo don't know him as well as he thought 2) Syllo lied and he is scum. | ||
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But I'm way to tired now to try to figure out who. | ||
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I found risk's claim really weird aswell. His first statement "I'll claim just before deadline" was weird alone but combine that with a claim when no one else have claimed (besides HoD) just makes me suspicious. Its like he don't want to be attacked for promising one thing and doing another. | ||
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##Vote Cwave Either he is scum with palmar or he is a townie with a bad read (on me). | ||
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On January 09 2012 11:36 Jackal58 wrote: It makes more sense for Palmar to protect a teammate than to try to block a blue. I think Palmar sent Syllo to purgatory. You still think syllo is on palmars team? If yes, so you think I'm on that team aswell? Because thats a crap theory. You just think i'm palmars scumbuddy because he called me town several times the first day - or? I don't want to lynch Cwave. I wanted him to think for himself! + Show Spoiler + On January 08 2012 22:02 Dirkzor wrote: I'm looking through Cwave's filter. He looks fishy. Not only for saying he thinks i'm scum several times with the only reasoning is a weak ass "case" about my first post and because It found a difference in the OP and Zbot vote count post. But more so because he havent said anything else the entire first day. He have spend the entire day 1 pointing out the obvious: RoL arent posting, Jackal have done nothing but hate palmar (But i must admit i found his post on Jackal amusing =)) He haven't taken a stance on anything and voted Erandorr with the reason that he is lurking. I'll keep an eye on him... It was a pure pressure vote and it worked. Also i noted that Tyrran came after me. Totally justified since all I did was voting for Cwave with no real reason. But having in mind that he knows he is already under suspicion he wants to find another target. Lastly I want to look at this post: + Show Spoiler + On January 09 2012 21:16 Refallen wrote: Well I decided to take a look at Cwave since Dirk is voting for him. Cwave Ok, weird role to choose the most important power of. Unless you're a demon. Buddying with Palmar, possible scumbuddies? The exchange about risk.nuke and his plan sounds especially contrived. Not wanting to vote risk.nuke? I'm going to say that if we lynch risk.nuke and he flips demon, Cwave is most probably the last one. The first point he makes is the exact same one i made earlier. How is asking and answering Palmars question buddying up to him? I fail to see that. And the part about risk's plan Refallen actually cut the end of the post from Cwave where he answered the question from Palmar. Palmar never clarified which plan he was talking about - it was kinda obvious what he meant but it could also easily be misunderstood if cwave just went through risk's filter looking for a plan. Last Refallen conclude that if Risk is demon Cwave must be too. While it is possible that palmar was bussing risk I find it unlikely. So Refallen is just trying to jump an easy wagon? His case just seemed forced as if he wanted Cwave to appear scummy because I already voted for him. Either way I'm unvoting Cwave. That vote did what was intended. | ||
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On January 10 2012 03:08 layabout wrote: Suspicious bastards: risk.nuke Refallen Tyrran Dirkzor RoL Jackal? (there is town there but i think these players should receive heightened attention) Why me? Because Jackal have been tunneling me? Because Cwave's bad case? Because i voted Cwave? | ||
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On January 10 2012 04:30 layabout wrote: @ Dirkzor You have made some anti-town suggestions you are under pressure I really do not like the ##Vote Cwave, AHA i got you cwave! ##Unvote play +you weren't on my Likey town list anyway +what kind of respectable townie doesn't know monty python? Not sure if i have time to come up with a detailed case today particularly as it's only the start of day2, and there are better candidates. (thats means you risk.nuke) In hindsight the vote on cwave might have been overkill on my pressuring of him, but nonetheless it forced the reaction i had hoped (from cwave and non-specific others) I don't feel I have been under pressure yet (Jackal screaming scum does not count as pressure), but please point out where I made anti-town suggestions so i can stop doing that. (I'm sorry about the monty Python thingy...) | ||
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I had a really long post about RoL, Tyrran and Risk, then i closed the tab it was in on mistake =/. I don't want to write it again now. The short version. RoL is a bad lynch, Risk is a good lynch, Tyrran is the best lynch. I'm going to eat now and then i'll try to rewrite it. @Lay want me to answer your antitown behaviour case? Just seems like we moved on to someelse and an answer to that would disrupt this discussion. I will if you, or others, want me to. | ||
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On to write the post that disappeared... =/ | ||
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