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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
January 16 2012 10:28 GMT
#1915
Dirkzor you may also answer these questions-- I'd find that most pleasing.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
January 16 2012 10:29 GMT
#1917
oh wait really? FUUUUUUUU
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
January 16 2012 10:30 GMT
#1919
ok no wait, I got it-- syllo was killed because they thought he was the seer, right? why not invert it and have the acolyte kill syllo and the AoD kill HoD?
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Blazinghand *
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United States25553 Posts
January 16 2012 10:31 GMT
#1921
On January 16 2012 19:30 Dirkzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 19:29 Refallen wrote:
Acolyte can't kill sage


Yes he can


no he cannot


Town Sage (x1)

Your study of the powers of light has enabled you to sense and counter demonic power. Each night, you may target a player to illuminate. You will receive "Demon" or "Not Demon" as a result, and your target will also be cleansed of corruption. You are immune to corruption. You win with the town.


no "dark powers"
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
January 16 2012 10:32 GMT
#1924
ok So back on track: why not have the acolyte kill the syllo the seer (who has dark powers), and have the AoD kill HoD?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
January 16 2012 10:33 GMT
#1926
On January 16 2012 19:32 Dirkzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 19:30 Blazinghand wrote:
ok no wait, I got it-- syllo was killed because they thought he was the seer, right? why not invert it and have the acolyte kill syllo and the AoD kill HoD?


Either because HoD is not a sage, and the angels know.

Or because the acolyte is dead (RoL?) and they can't



Ok yes these are our two options. So I'm thinking the acolyte is dead. I'm thinking RoL was the acolyte. This is my theory. waht do you two think?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
January 16 2012 10:34 GMT
#1928
On January 16 2012 19:33 Refallen wrote:
Where'd you get the idea that they thought syllo was the seer? I'm pretty sure syllo was vanilla town tbh.


AoD thought syllo was seer-- he's dead. he basically soft-claimed blue trying to get unroleblocked "I want to die" <-- remember that quote?
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Blazinghand *
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United States25553 Posts
January 16 2012 10:35 GMT
#1929
On January 16 2012 19:33 Dirkzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 19:32 Refallen wrote:
Every night, you may target a player to stalk. When you do so, choose one of: demon, corrupted town, or town with dark powers. If your target matches your choice, that player will be killed.


Your study of the powers of light has enabled you to sense and counter demonic power. Each night, you may target a player to illuminate. You will receive "Demon" or "Not Demon" as a result, and your target will also be cleansed of corruption. You are immune to corruption. You win with the town.]


I don't think he's town with dark powers.


Or maybe the angels are as stupid as me and thought Acolyte could kill sage. I have assumed the entire game that acolyte could kill every blue town had.


angels will spend a long time reading on what exactly their powers do, trust me-- no scum wants to lose because they didn't realize something about their own role PMs.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
January 16 2012 10:38 GMT
#1933
Refallen this is the part i'm interested in, which Zephirdd brings up


On January 16 2012 06:02 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 05:16 syllogism wrote:
If you are town, you should examine the wagon on you before you claimed and what people were saying. Actually I'm now reading it a bit and this is somewhat changing my view on things

OH ARE YOU?

Wanna know what happens when the DH shots someone and HoD was jailed? We lost a DT check for nothing because you made excuses for reasons for HoD's claim to be false. Demons will try to create a case over HoD as he is the one town they fear, and Angels will try to protect him because he is useful and any lynch that is not an Angel is excellent for them because that's the only way to kill Angels.

And ta-daa, you got the Angel connection you needed from me. But hey that doesn't matters, because tonight you will get your "Not Angel" read, syllo-seer, but that probably doesn't matter as well because if Angels have half a brain they realized you are the Seer last night from your "I DUN WANNA DIE" thing. BAM Acolyte on you, AoD on someone else, DH on Spaackle(hopefully) and suddenly Angels won the game because town will look at this and lynch me and HoD.

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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
January 16 2012 10:39 GMT
#1934
On January 16 2012 19:38 Dirkzor wrote:
What... how can it ever be 50% that RoL was acolyte?!?! He might have donw something completely different then what we are speculating here and have missed. There is 50% chance that RoL was the channeler and 50% chance that is was Wiggles.


Oh the reasoning is "assuming RoL is an angel, and knowing he's not the AoD based on the night kill, there's a 50% chance he was the acolyte, 50% chance he was the observer"
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
January 16 2012 10:44 GMT
#1937
I dont' know if Zeph is scum.

I was just wondering what you were thinking about that in terms of "optimal angel play". I'm wondering if RoL was the acolyte or the observer (as I am highly, highly sure he was an angel based on his play).
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
January 16 2012 10:46 GMT
#1938
In any case, I guess it's time to drop a mad knowledge bomb up in this joint. basically my magnum opus. I suppose discussing this with two random players who aren't "Captains McCleanNose" isn't the best sounding board but hopefully you're not both scum. I'm going to talk about making sense of yesterday's Demon play.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
January 16 2012 10:52 GMT
#1939
So uh did we all just bail or what. can I get a role call or something
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
January 16 2012 10:55 GMT
#1940
alright i'm getting bored of waiting for you guys to respond


Some context: a list of posters who were definitely around between the time RoL claimed Channeller and the time RoL was lynched, and flipped "???"

Blazinghand
Layabout
Syllogism
Dirkzor
Zephirdd
Grackaroni
Spaackle

Now normally you'd say "ok none of these guys are the demonic concealer"


Well, why would they not be the demonic concealer? The obvious answer?

The demons wouldn't actually want to conceal this lynch after RoL claimed Channeller, since it would be super clear after the following night whether or not the channeller was alive. If he died claiming VT (which is what was thought by almost everyone outside that list of people above), that would cause substantially more confusion. So the Demonic Concealer is not among that group, or else he'd decide not to conceal the lynch and save it for a better day.

Unless, of course, there was another purpose to the concealment.

The demons wanted to protect the Corrupted Townie, who is probably their last best hope for winning this game. In that case, we're talking about me.

I am the Corrupted Townie. I was corrupted N2. The demons likely concealed the lynch because they thought RoL was a VT (not believing my case) and wanted me to live following the lynch.

I believe layabout is a demon who specifically soft-claimed CT then got twisted to try to keep their CT from getting illuminated, as I several times during the course of my rambunctious D3 breadcrumbed things about wanting people to enlighten me, brighten my day, etc. My unusually rambunctious and aggressive play was to try to get a wagon going on me and see who the demons were.

I used Sense on __________ because______________. I got a result of "not dark" and am not sure if I should reveal who I Sensed last night.


Dear god I hope the acolyte is dead.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
January 16 2012 10:58 GMT
#1941
So yeah Refallen there you go
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
January 16 2012 11:01 GMT
#1943
On January 16 2012 19:59 Refallen wrote:
HoD will illuminate you, so you should be safe tonight.

And sorry, watching GSL, will be back soon.


Rules:

The Transport and Banish actions are resolved simultaneously before all other actions, and can consequently cause the other actions to fail.

All other actions except corruption and the cleansing aspect of the illuminate action are then resolved.

The corruption action is then resolved (even if the demon who is performing the action was killed the same night.)

Finally, the cleansing aspect of the illuminate action is resolved (even if the sage was killed the same night.)


The cleansing doesn't happen until after killing actions. If the acolyte is alive, I'm dead. I've thought this through rather carefully.

also dude Oz vs Curious highlights are lame come back here and talk
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
January 16 2012 11:12 GMT
#1945
So refallen I have a "not dark" read on a player, meaning he's either a VT, the seer, or an angel. Is it a good idea to reveal who this player is?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
January 16 2012 11:19 GMT
#1947
On January 16 2012 20:17 Refallen wrote:
It depends on who the player is. Obviously if he's already scummy and you see him as not dark you should probably come out so we can lynch an angel today. Then again, we have 4 people here who are either VT/Sage, while only 2 angels left, so the odds don't really favor us here. It depends if you're sure the player is scummy enough to be an angel and also to be lynched today.


I am currently offering "no comment" on whether or not the player is scummy. I will wait to hear other people's opinions on this issue. I hope you don't mind.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
January 16 2012 11:26 GMT
#1950
In any case, we've got 10 people alive-- assuming that I'm right and RoL is the acolyte, that means 6 of us are town-affiliated. Wiggs was the channeler. It's possible we lost a blue lost night when Syllo died (I personally think he was the Seer).
this means out of the 10 remaining we've got:

AoD
Acolyte/Observer

Concealer (no power)
Twister
Demon Hunter (dead if he was syllo, which case this is a VT)
Seer (dead if he was syllo, in which case this is a VT)
Sage (HoD)
VT
VT
CT -- this is me.

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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
January 16 2012 11:27 GMT
#1952
Given that I got my "not dark" read randomly, there's a 60% chance the guy I got the read on was a Seer or another VT, and 40% chance he was an angel of some sort (barring whatever level of scumminess he had).

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