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Blazinghand
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On January 10 2012 09:01 Refallen wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2012 08:57 Blazinghand wrote:Np Mr wiggs. Let's bury this guy. On January 10 2012 08:55 layabout wrote:
do you understand my point? no your point is dumb he will always claim he thought his idea was a good idea. Let's not "bury this guy" because he derped for a post. I think he's one of the most open and active members so far in posting his reads/trying to get people lynched, and I think he's probably town, even if some of his cases are bad.
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did you read my case? no. did your ead mr wiggles post? no
I'm talking about REBIRTHOFLEGEND
READ THE CASE
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Blazinghand
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Blazinghand
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Are you serious? RoL literally lurked all day d1 and then posted the shittiest of all possible plans "herp derp let's mass roleclaim" then disappared again. Link me to your case on risk.nuke and I will consider it, do my own analysis, and offer a read, but do you REALLY THINK ROL'S PLAY HAS BEEN PRO TOWN???
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Blazinghand
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On January 10 2012 09:07 Spaackle wrote:
@Refallen. He didn't just derp in a post. He made a well thought out plan that would cause a lot of harm to the town if it were implemented. He then defended against the flaws pointed out in his plan and has not done much since. He also hasn't really posted any reads on anyone, just his silly plan. Why are you so eager to defend him?
You're underestimated the level of Derp Refallen experienced. He declined to actually read me and Mr. wiggles in a comprehensive fashion and thought we were attacking layabout.
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Blazinghand
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Refallen do you think there are any circumstances under which a town RoL would suggest that plan? RoL is a pretty smart guy.
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Blazinghand
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On January 10 2012 09:11 Refallen wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2012 08:57 Blazinghand wrote:Np Mr wiggs. Let's bury this guy. On January 10 2012 08:55 layabout wrote:
do you understand my point? no your point is dumb he will always claim he thought his idea was a good idea. Blazing, you tell me this post isn't misleading at all? Especially when mr wiggles was ending up talking about layabout at the last part of his post just before yours? And spaackle, what exactly of your point still stands, after it's clear that I'm not defending RoL, but rather layabout?
no you're a moron my vote is on RoL. You're just a moron.
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Blazinghand
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EBWOP: ok I'm gonna rephrase that I don't actually think you're a moron, I think you just are digging at a piece of wall. I'm sorry I called you a moron
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Blazinghand
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But like, the majority of Wigg's post is addressing the RoL stuff, and I've voted for RoL, and HE has voted for RoL.
If you misinterpret this it is only because you want to misinterpret it... or see my previous hypothesis.
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Blazinghand
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On January 10 2012 09:24 Refallen wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2012 09:10 Blazinghand wrote:
Refallen do you think there are any circumstances under which a town RoL would suggest that plan? RoL is a pretty smart guy. Yes. In the pre-game someone suggested a mass role-claim too. It isn't impossible for a town RoL to suggest the plan, and at the very least it seems that he has thought through it enough to address some common criticisms. But that's not the point. I rather stay on risk.nuke because I think he's a better lynch, I remember the last time you tried one of your hustlin' cases, though I do agree that RoL needs to do more this cycle. Just because I voted for risk.nuke does not mean I think RoL to be town.
The fact of the matter is, the case on Erandorr was sound, and he got lynched because he played like scum. I think there are 9 players who agree with me on that. Furthermore, saying "well Erandorr was lurking too" isn't the point.
The main point of my post isn't RoL's lurking. It's what he's posted and what he hasn't posted.
Things RoL has posted: a massive, terrible plan that took a lot of time to write up and is anti-town.
Things RoL hasn't posted: anything useful.
This isn't a case of a guy lurking. This is a case of a guy lurking, then putting a lot of effort into something that would sink the town. Are you really saying "RoL needs to do more this cycle" when he has actively suggested possibly the worst plan of all time?
No, I think RoL has done just what he's wanted to. see for yourself my actual case on RoL, since you seem to think i'm claiming we should lynch him due to inactivity:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=298603¤tpage=55#1081
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Blazinghand
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"hey blazinghand I have some poorly-thought-out objections to lynching RoL"
"hey blazinghand I agree with you and think we should lynch RoL"
"here are some observations I have about some other scummy player"
"here I am suggesting any sort of strategem or asking a question"
"this is a helpful post"
^--- guys any of these posts would be welcome...
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Blazinghand
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On December 28 2011 15:42 ZBot wrote:
Vote count for the Day 2 Lynch.
With 16 alive, 9 votes are required to lynch.
Current votes:
RebirthOfLeGenD (4): Blazinghand, Mr. Wiggles, Zephirdd, Spaackle
Dirkzor (1): Jackal58
risk.nuke (1): Bluelightz, Refallen, -Bluelightz
Cwave (0): Dirkzor, -Dirkzor
The Day 2 deadline is at January 12 2012 10:00 KST. (That's approximately 1 day, 20:52:02 from now.)
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Blazinghand
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On January 10 2012 14:59 syllogism wrote:
Risk.nuke: I asked you a question. Would you rather lynch Tyrran or HoD today and why?
This RoL wagon is incredibly suspicious. We aren't lynching him today.
???? i don't care about the wagon what do you think about the case
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Blazinghand
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On January 10 2012 15:04 syllogism wrote:Hello Tyrran is Risk still a null read to you and why? What do you think about these posts? Show nested quote +
Syllogism, there are two days left why woudl I commit to lynching this soon. I took the topics of the time and wrote my thoughts on them. Then I wanted to see who would comment on it further, what they would say, who would push for their lynch etc. What the hell are you doing? commenting on how useless I am when you don't know my agenda which you just ruined because you didn't think it through. Or were you planning on pushing for my lynch today. Cause if you weren't there is nothing pro-town about calling me out. I'm town and you're forcing me to reveal what I wanted to do. If I had been scum you would had just tipped me off instead of saving it for a case you would write against me.
Show nested quote +So syllogism I don't like having meta thrown in my face. First of all nobody likes having meta thrown in thier face because it's not really something you can defend yourself against. But there are different sorts of meta. There are meta of people who have played alot of games who's meta can be very clear (erandorr). Then there is meta of people who have played games as both mafia and town. Then there is meta against me who have only played as town. I mean I've had people calling me out on meta in all of my games exept 1 or 2 and I've always been town including this time so I'm getting a bit sick of it.
Both of those guys are also scum so it's not really useful to talk to them
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Blazinghand
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On January 10 2012 15:09 Refallen wrote:
Care about the wagon.
??? fragment or command?
On January 10 2012 15:09 syllogism wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2012 15:05 Blazinghand wrote:On January 10 2012 15:04 syllogism wrote:Hello Tyrran is Risk still a null read to you and why? What do you think about these posts?
Syllogism, there are two days left why woudl I commit to lynching this soon. I took the topics of the time and wrote my thoughts on them. Then I wanted to see who would comment on it further, what they would say, who would push for their lynch etc. What the hell are you doing? commenting on how useless I am when you don't know my agenda which you just ruined because you didn't think it through. Or were you planning on pushing for my lynch today. Cause if you weren't there is nothing pro-town about calling me out. I'm town and you're forcing me to reveal what I wanted to do. If I had been scum you would had just tipped me off instead of saving it for a case you would write against me.
So syllogism I don't like having meta thrown in my face. First of all nobody likes having meta thrown in thier face because it's not really something you can defend yourself against. But there are different sorts of meta. There are meta of people who have played alot of games who's meta can be very clear (erandorr). Then there is meta of people who have played games as both mafia and town. Then there is meta against me who have only played as town. I mean I've had people calling me out on meta in all of my games exept 1 or 2 and I've always been town including this time so I'm getting a bit sick of it. Both of those guys are also scum so it's not really useful to talk to them It looks like criticism of his bad plan, which doesn't make him mafia. It's a very weak case. Him being completely worthless is a better reason to lynch him, but not good enough to ignore people who have genuinely been here and played incredibly suspiciously. What do you think about risk/tyrran now?
Why is it a weak case? RoL has been of negative value this game, adequately slapping down goodness with his shitty plan. You don't find that even slightly suspicious?
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Blazinghand
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I think risk is scum and I need to read tyrran's filter
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Blazinghand
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Busy =/= becoming terrible and making a craptacular plan. So you're saying that RoL is busy atm due to Responsibility Mafia so we should wait?
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Blazinghand
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On January 10 2012 15:23 syllogism wrote:
No, I'm saying he is busy due to being busy (work/real life) and as we can only lynch one per day, we prioritize the better lynches. Townies suggest bad plans all the time and defend them to death.
So being inactive for a week and suggesting a shitty plan that would cause scum to win, isn't, erm, scummy?
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Blazinghand
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On January 10 2012 15:30 syllogism wrote:
See this is why people call you WBG's smurf. You are like a wall. I've repeatedly said that him being worthless is suspicious but that doesn't mean that he is a better lynch than the other two. Who do you think is more likely to suggest and defend a plan that is clearly going to be controversial? Town or Scum?
I may be like a wall, but I am like a wall of manliness, handsome looks, good hygiene, and sharp, biting wit.
It's not that his plan is worthless, it's that it has anti-worth. He should know that. You should know that.
Who do you think is more likely to suggest a plan that would literally sink town? Town or Scum?
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Blazinghand
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On January 10 2012 15:28 Refallen wrote:
I'm saying you should take into consideration the wagon, and not only the case, like you said.
And you're missing syllo's point, risk is MORE LIKELY to flip scum than RoL, and thus, he is a BETTER lynch. If we had 5 lynches per day we could lynch anyone who looks suspicious, but with only one, we have to choose the one that has the highest probability of making a scum flip.
I think you're missing my point which is that RoL is like 100% scum, so he is better lynch.
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Blazinghand
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On January 10 2012 15:34 Refallen wrote:
Just like how Erandorr was the better lynch in day 1?
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??? Erandorr was a great lynch day 1. Yes, he flipped town, but in the same situation I'd do what I did again and I'd do it proudly.
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